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Spectropop - Digest Number 663
- From: Spectropop Group
- Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2002
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There are 16 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. New At Petula Clark
From: Spectropop
2. Re: The Wellingtons / Compared To What
From: Mick Patrick
3. Re: Rascals
From: Dan Hughes
4. Cherry Red New Releases
From: Neb Rodgers
5. Jack Nitzsche At updates
From: Martin Roberts
6. Why quibble?
From: Steve Harvey
7. Silly Girl
From: Steve Harvey
8. Re: Marianne on Herman
From: Bob Hanes
9. Re: Northern Soul / Rascals
From: Michael Coxe
10. Re: Why quibble?
From: James Botticelli
11. Re: Marianne on Herman
From: James Botticelli
12. Re: Girl-Group Bootleg CDs
From: Donald
13. Re: Mrs. Miller on CD
From: Stewart Mason
14. Re: Marianne & Nitzsche
From: Phil Milstein
15. Re: Nitzsche / Donegan, etc.
From: Country Paul
16. Barbara McNair
From: Rik
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 00:05:44 -0000
From: Spectropop
Subject: New At Petula Clark
Dear Members,
A few months ago, some of the Spectropop Team witnessed the
legendary Petula Clark live at the Palladium in London. She
was absolutely sensational. The event was one of the musical
highlights of our year. These days, it's recognized that Pet's
French-language recordings were frequently even more thrilling
than her more famous British and American hits. There are many
CDs of her Gallic material on the market - so where to begin?
Bill Reed reckons he knows the answer to that - Sequel's "En
Vogue" double CD. Click below to read his review:
http://www.spectropop.com/recommends/index.htm#petula
And when you have the time, follow the link below to view one
of the best websites we've ever seen:
http://www.petulaclark.net
Enjoy!
The Spectropop Team
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 00:06:11 -0000
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: The Wellingtons / Compared To What
Great info from Peter Richmond regarding the Wellingtons. You
might like to add the following to their discography, Pete:
Annette & the Wellingtons "Merlin Jones" Vista 431, 1964. The
other side is "Scrambled Egghead", an Annette & Tommy Kirk duet.
Regarding "Compared To What": I'll take some convincing there's
a better version than Roberta Flack's; track #1 on her debut LP
"First Take" in 1969. It pre-dates the Les McCann/Eddie Harris
rendition. That woman is a genius.
Niagara:
> I think that Jack N. and Hal Blaine should get together some
> time and compare the depth of their respective egos!
The fact that Jack Nitzsche is dead might make this unlikely.
MICK PATRICK
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 17:50:58 -0600
From: Dan Hughes
Subject: Re: Rascals
Mike, didn't the Rascals' first album also have a really
nice version of "Like A Rolling Stone"?
---Dan
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 16:19:39 -0800 (PST)
From: Neb Rodgers
Subject: Cherry Red New Releases
There are some interesting new releases from Cherry Red and Rev-Ola
Records this month, for more complete info just follow the link to
their website: http://www.cherryred.co.uk/newreleases.htm
Thanks be to Joe Foster for continuing to find more groovy pop stuff
to reissue!
-Neb
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 01:14:20 -0000
From: Martin Roberts
Subject: Jack Nitzsche At updates
I'm pleased (and a trifle smug) to list another musical treat:
Record Of The Week: Ramona King – "Ballyhoo" – Eden 6 (1963).
Anybody experiencing difficulties downloading, please feel free
to contact me off-list and we'll sort something.
This week's radio jingle continues the 'superhero' theme (as
pointed out to me by Phil M), and is arranged in the style of one
Mr. P. H. Spector. Phil C has cleaned and processed the recording,
and he's noticed (for the keen-eared among you) quotes from the
Ronettes' "How Does It Feel" deep in the mix (in the same key).
A true wall-of-sound goodie, not to be missed.
I'd very much welcome folks' viewpoints on Jack's music and
movie scores. My own over-excited ramblings are wearing thin; it
sure would be nice to get some other over-excited or cool, calm
and measured words on Mr. Nitzsche. How about "The Lonely Surfer"
LP, "Village Of The Giants", "One Flew…" etc? Once the text goes
online and you maybe cover your head in embarrassment and think
"Jeepers, did I really write that!?", don't worry, unlike S'pop
postings, it can be easily changed.
Martin
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 16:58:58 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: Why quibble?
Top 40, Top Ten, but Top Fifty?!? Might as well be Top
Thousand. Compared to "Good Lovin'"'s placement it was
a flop. Felix's vocals ruled for most of their singles
after that.
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 16:49:26 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: Silly Girl
Ken Silverwood:
> but later the pop
> confection of the sadly ignored " Silly Girl "
> captivated me , should
> have been a biggie!
I agree about "Silly Girl" being a neglected track.
Got into back in the 80s for the first time. When I
met Felix I mentioned it to him and he just replied,
"Oh, you like those old songs". Kinda strange when you
consider much of his current set is even "older"
songs.
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 17:06:24 -0800 (PST)
From: Bob Hanes
Subject: Re: Marianne on Herman
Gerry Marsden a "pretty boy"? I don't think so!
The Right Reverend Bob, dumb angel chapel, The Church of the
Harmonic Overdub
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 10:16:46 -0800
From: Michael Coxe
Subject: Re: Northern Soul / Rascals
Ken Silverwood mentioned:
>I always loved the 1-2-3 of IAGEOMHAM, "Come On Up" & "You Better Run"
>nice & tough, but later the pop confection of the sadly ignored "Silly
>Girl" captivated me , should have been a biggie!
The LP which contains "Silly Girl" - Once Upon A Dream - is one of
the great 60s American pop masterpieces, sorely overlooked (ala Child
Is Father To The Man by BS&T) & inexplicably only available as a
German import. 5th Rascal Dave Brigati is all over this record, singing
lead on the title cut. Arif Mardin's arrangements, Tom Dowd's knob-
twiddling and the presence of King Curtis, Hubert Laws, Chuck Rainey
and other session heavyweights didn't hurt either. The Rascals were also
a superb performing unit, at least in 1968 at Durham North Carolina's
Duke Indoor Stadium, where this southern teen experienced the East
Coast's own teenage symphony to god.
- michael
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 21:01:25 -0500
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: Why quibble?
Steve Harvey wrote:
> Felix's vocals ruled for most of their singles
> after that.
sure...YOU"RE 1000% RIGHT...but from a strictly Spectropop POV,
Eddie delivered the goods, chart placement and ruling classes
be damned! Ever hear Dusty do "How Can I Be Sure"? She murderlizes
the song. Never heard her do a Felix tune though. Too rough for a
smoothette such as herself. Just dispensing Eddie B his justice
ova heah!
Jimmy Botticelli/dyed in the wool East Coast blue (brown) eyed soul bro'
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 21:02:39 -0500
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: Marianne on Herman
Bob Hanes :
> Gerry Marsden a "pretty boy"? I don't think so!
Bob, you know what he meant! So you always fancied Freddie, huh? ;-)
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 03:16:29 -0000
From: Donald
Subject: Re: Girl-Group Bootleg CDs
Track listings for the Girls Girls Girls series as well as a few
other Marginal releases can be found at:
http://users.skynet.be/totorecords/girl-compil.htm
Most of the CDs have a vast variety of styles of music but all are
early to mid 60s female singers or girl groups. My advice is: have a
look at the track listings and pick a CD that has something you want.
Prepare to be surprised by some other great songs that you never knew
existed. There's some brilliant stuff here, such as Azie Mortimer's
'Lips' which coincidently is being played on the Netherlands radio
show that Mike mentioned.
http://www.radio192.nl/mainframe.html
Donald
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 22:26:48 -0500
From: Stewart Mason
Subject: Re: Mrs. Miller on CD
David Bell asks:
> ...is there a Mrs. Miller cd available. I again have very fond
> memories of Downtown and A Lover's Concerto.
Capitol released a Mrs. Miller retrospective in 1999 as part of their
WILD COOL AND SWINGIN' series. It's still in print and readily
available. Personally, when I found out that she was in on the joke
and was purposely singing terribly (according to people who were
around at the time in a recent article in Cool and Strange Music),
some of the charm went out of the music, but perhaps that's just me.
S
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 23:54:23 +0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Re: Marianne & Nitzsche
Martin Roberts wrote:
> Surely what Jack Nitzsche said and Marianne Faithfull agreed
> with makes perfect sense? For every great musical talent in
> the world, there are approximately 100 groups/producers/writers/
> vocalists whose 'talent' lies not in innovating a new vision
> but in being 'inspired' by the creativity of the few.
I second Martin's entire comment, and would add that
Nitzsche's and Faithfull's perspectives, as industry
participants involved in the "competition" of the business
(including for access to material, personnel, studio time,
etc., as much as the purely financial competition), is
likely to be a little less indulgent of the "lesser" lights
than we fans, who need only sit back, listen and enjoy.
--Phil Milstein
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 01:54:26 -0500
From: Country Paul
Subject: Re: Nitzsche / Donegan, etc.
Another visit to the I Stand Corrected Department: Ken Silverwood notes
"Dobie Gray...mouthed "the original's still the greatest" in "The In
Crowd".... And didn't P F Sloan compose "A Must To Avoid" along with
Steve Barri...."
Ooops on Dobie Gray - that's twice I've dipped into the well of
forgetfulness this week. (Geez, maybe I am really getting old....). I
plead ignorance on the authorship of "Muscular Boy" - um, "Must to
Avoid," having never particularly liked the record (sorry) and thus
been unaware of its authorship. Now, "Sins of The Family" - there's a
true gem, sadly under-known and under-rated by "the masses."
Martin Roberts, I did receive Jack Nitzsche's "Three Piece Suite," and
have been listening. "St. Giles Cripplegate" remains as opaque as ever
to me, sounding much like movie soundtrack music; it makes sense that
he scored 40 of them. "For Mori" is, however, very beautiful.
I wish I could write a glowing review of the solo vocal album, however,
which I've only gotten about 2/3 through, since I want to listen to it
for the first time under the best circumstances. Thus far, while I hear
the beautiful Van Dyke Parksian influences - not to mention some
magnificent Spector-related production - I find most of the songs to be
more like phrases or snippets that either never go anywhere or get
stuck on the same thing for two long. There are great moments, of
course - the lyric "Hey, Mo, where you goin' with that rock in your
pocket?" equals my favorite Van Morrison lyric, "In the land of a
thousand dances, I danced with you." Pure Dada brilliance. I haven't
gotten to the demos yet, but I approach "the third piece" with an open
mind. I really wanted to love this album, but I fear that the liner
notes' frequent references to Nitzsche's heavy drinking can be heard in
too much of what I've listened to so far. If I were Mo Ostin, I'd
probably have chosen not to release it either. Sad, because with all
its flaws, I'm still a big fan. When Nitzsche was on, he was
unparalleled.
Martin again: "I hope after reading Ian Chapman's review of 'The Paris
Sisters Sing Everything Under The Sun' you have a copy. A great album
and review, such a shame it cannot be bought so easily!"
I don't have yet; where can a Yank order one without breaking the bank?
(Or, I guess, even while breaking the bank?)
Jim Cassidy wrote: "Follow this link for an article from The New Yorker:
http://www.shaggs.com/meet_the_shaggs.html.
As you'll read, the Wiggins were - and are - real people."
...and one strange tale with some sad endings. Highly recommended article.
JB writes: "has anyone heard Siesta's Pastel Vespa? Supposedly taking
hard-core stompers and ravers and setting them to easy listening and soft
pop arrangements."
Haven't heard of them, but I have one track (thanks to a WFMU premium) by
Petty Booka - a breathtakingly beautiful version of the Ramones' "I Wanna Be
Your Girlfriend" (in this case; "Boyfriend" in the original). I wonder if
the rest of their work is in the same vein. Anyone with answers, please?
Bill George notes: "On her latest album, Ms. Faithfull covers Herman and the
gang's 'I'm Into Something Good.' So I guess she didn't feel they were
TOTALLY full of crap..."
Maybe she took it from the far-superior Earl-Jean version; I haven't heard
hers.
RIP Lonnie Donegan. "Chewing Gum" was a mammoth US hit; "Rock Island Line"
was less so. Donegan never had the impact on us that he did in the UK, as
skiffle was marginal here. Mick Patrick, thank you for the write-up and the
Spector-related Donegan track listing. You also mention "the first song
Spector's group the Teddy Bears ever recorded, 'Don't You Worry My Little
Pet.'" What an anomaly for them! It rocks out, although the vocal is
recorded in murk-fi, several steps below lo-fi. So, Mick, questions: (1)
What is Spector (or Lieb) singing? (2) I have faint memories of this song
when new, but possibly by someone else. Is the Teddy Bears' version a cover?
and of whom?
Bob Rashkow, the "really cool tune called 'Compared to What?'" is by Gil
Scott-Heron.
Finally (for now), I may be seeing Eddie Brigati at a Christmas party in
December. (His significant other and I do voice work for the same producer.)
While he doesn't like being pumped with questions about the old times, he
sometimes is willing to talk. If there's any info folks here would like to
know, I may be able to slide in an inquiry.
So many cool messages, so little time....
Country Paul
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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2002 08:42:44 -0000
From: Rik
Subject: Barbara McNair
I am looking for Barbara McNair's Marginal CD. Does anyone have
one to sell to me?
Rik
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