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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: the adorable Ellie Greenwich
From: Mike Rashkow
2. Re: Elusive Bob Lind
From: Bill George
3. Re: Art and Dotty Todd
From: F. Wright
4. Re: 3000 miles
From: Mikey
5. Re: A Christmas Gift For You
From: Bill George
6. Re: Jackie DeShannon etc
From: Country Paul
7. For Artie Wayne
From: Warren Cosford
8. Re: France Gall
From: Robert Pietrusko
9. Re: Songs by US songwriters for which there is no US original record
From: Mick Patrick
10. Re: Songs by US songwriters for which there is no US original record
From: Scott Swanson
11. RE: The Actionettes
From: Delia Barnard
12. Re: The Chiffons' Sweet Talkin' Guy (rerecording?)
From: Lindsay
13. Re: Loose Ends "Free Soul"
From: Rat Pfink
14. Re: Jack Scott / Kenny Young / Brian Hyland
From: Artie Wayne
15. Re: Songs by US songwriters for which there is no US original record
From: Phil Milstein
16. Re: Songs by US songwriters for which there is no US original record
From: Artie Wayne
17. Re: the Actionettes......Listen Jimmy, can you Shimmy???
From: Amber
18. Re: Byrds
From: Mikey
19. Don Ralke
From: Guy Lawrence
20. Re: Songs by US songwriters for which there is no US original record
From: Mick Patrick
21. Re: Art for Artie's sake
From: Jan Kristensen
22. Re: Brian Hyland
From: James Botticelli
23. Songs by US songwriters; Freddie & The Dreamers; RPM CDs etc
From: Mike Edwards
24. Re: The Chiffons' Sweet Talkin' Guy
From: Mike Rashkow
25. The Liquid Room 11/17/2002
From: David Ponak
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 20:04:37 EST
From: Mike Rashkow
Subject: Re: the adorable Ellie Greenwich
Was she adorable?
Very simply, Yes.
I met Ellie Greenwich when I was 25 and she was 26. She was
beautiful, had a lovely figure, was exceptionally bright (I
mean really bright) and very, very funny. Warm, generous, kind,
caring, talented. Did she knock my socks off - you bet. I was
captivated - completely and totally. In a way that's still the
case. She had a very big impact on me.
Was she the perfect person. Not a chance. Quirky, definitely.
But I'll always remember her the way she was. Adorable with a
capital A.
Rashkovsky
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 22:01:54 EST
From: Bill George
Subject: Re: Elusive Bob Lind
A while back there was some discussion about "The Elusive Bob
Lind" LP. In Richie Unterberger's new book, "Turn Turn Turn,"
Lind discusses the album:
Verve/Folkways slapped sloppy electric rock and string overdubs
onto old acoustic Bob Lind demos, in the wake of that singer-
songwriter's 1966 folk-rock smash "Elusive Butterfly". Not only
were the new parts frequently blatantly out of sync with Lind's
voice and acoustic guitar, but the label even had the gall to
name the album "The Elusive Bob Lind" in spite of the absence of
"Elusive Butterfly." "It's unconscionable what they did", bristles
Lind. "It was just such a piece of shit that I just cringe every
time I see it".
Earlier in the book, the opens the discussion of whether or not
the Byrds played on their own records. According to Chris Hillman
and everyone else interviewed, "Mr. Tambourine Man" featured
McGuinn on electric 12-string and McGuinn, Clark and Crosby on
vocals. All the other instruments were played by studio musicians.
But The quintet of McGuinn, Clark, Hilman, Crosby and Clarke played
on all the other recordings. As Hillman says, it is obvious when you
listen that they aren't studio pros.
Finally, does anyone have the record "A Free Soul" by The Loose Ends?
It is a mid-60s folk rock single featuring T-Bone Burnett on guitar.
-Bill
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 02:56:53 -0000
From: F. Wright
Subject: Re: Art and Dotty Todd
Country Paul wrote:
> While searching for info on Art and Dotty Todd, I tripped
> across a note on the Exotica list about an LP by "Lounge
> performers Art and Dotty Todd, 'Chanson d'amour,'...on
> Beverly Hills records with orchestral backing by exotica god
> Don Ralke and the Tokyo symphony orchestra. Great stuff."
>
> Are these the Era and Dart tracks, or is there more out there?
> If not, are they available on LP or CD? Is this any good? Is it
> similar to the sounds they're known for?
>
I have an Art & Dotty Todd LP on Dot DLP 25742 titled "Chanson
d'Amour". It contains a stereo re-recording of their hit, which
Dot did a lot of in the sixties. The rest of the LP consists of
show tunes and lounge type material. No director or producer is
shown on this mid-60's album. I never thought of Don Ralke as
"exotica". After beefing up Jan & Arnie's "Jennie Lee", he directed
many of the early Warner Bros. records by Edd Byrnes, Connie Stevens,
Dick & Dee Dee, Joanie Sommers, and Tab Hunter. They were billed on
the label "with the BIG SOUND of Don Ralke".
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 22:08:23 -0500
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: 3000 miles
Ian Chapman:
> Mikey, I spoke with Brian Hyland a couple of weeks ago after
> one of his current UK shows, about the "Joker Went Wild"
> album. He said both Leon Russell and Hal Blaine were on
> it. He also said he'd read Hal's book.
Hey Ian!!
Thats great, thats just what I thought, it sure sounds like Hal.
Thanks for the info.
your friend,
Mikey
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 22:01:51 EST
From: Bill George
Subject: Re: A Christmas Gift For You
Guy Lawrence:
> U.K. members should beware of the following CD entitled
> "A Christmas Gift For You - A Tribute To Phil Spector" and
> performed by "Wall Of Sound" it has just been released by
> one of the biggest British budget labels. The sleeve blurb
> reads as follows..."Phil Spector's original album has long
> been unavailable.......
They are readily available on CD in the States. I saw a whole
stack of them at Tower Records last night. I'm sure they must
be available on-line from Amazon, CD Now, Tower, etc. If people
are really stuck, you can send me a money order and I'll mail
'em to ya.
-Bill
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 01:36:43 -0500
From: Country Paul
Subject: Re: Jackie DeShannon etc
Alan Gordon wrote:
> I almost always think of "Chris In The Morning" from
> Northern Exposure being the writers vehicle to explore
> thoughts like these... great stuff.
Indeed - I always wanted KBHR to be a real radio station in a place I could
listen to it! Thank you for mentioning it! (And also in passing, the actress
who played Peg just passed away at 84 - her name escapes me for the moment.)
My last word on "Dave's 5 Hermits" - why are we acting like we have to
choose between 'em? Like most artists, both did some great stuff, both did
some crud. And remember that there seems to be always a duality - the
"Hertz" and the "Avis": Elvis and Carl Perkins; The Beach Boys and Jan &
Dean; and at the beginning of '64 (at least in the US), The Beatles and the
DC5 (at least till the Stones came along). I think the Hermits were an
interesting footnote, but as has been pointed out, the "obscure killer" "My
Reservation's Been Confirmed" holds its own with the best of 'em.
Bill George, thanks for the URL for the latest issue of "Jackie"
...http://jackiedeshannon.tripod.com. I found the Sharon Sheeley tribute
particularly interesting, as well as the on-line dialog with Jackie. Glad
she's still working and creating - and still looking good as well!
Caroline Munro's "Tar and Cement" is new to me - thanks for posting it;
rather nice, and an interesting array of sidemen. (The interview and
pictures certainly stimulated other senses as well.) The hottest musica
post currently, though, has got to be Rachel Sweet's "Silver Bells." Is this
available commercially? It ranks right up there with Dave Edmunds' "Maybe"
for prime neo-Spectorianism.
For Artie Wayne: (1) Welcome! (2) I'd heard once that the Detergents
["Leader of the Laudromat"] were another known group before assuming that
identity. Were they? And who, please?
Re: Chattahoochee Records - aside from the lovely but obvious Murmaids, they
also had a superb two-sider from Bobby Paris: "Who Needs You," a cool rocker
with girl group response and a fake-out fade a la "Do You Love Me?"; and
"Little Miss Dreamer," with a very nice girl-group back-up chorus. Very
thick Spectorian production. I think "Who Needs You" scraped the bottom of
the charts - shoulda been bigger. Mikey (or anyone), are these available in
re-issues?
In the "comedy corner," Jan Kristensen wrote:
> There's always many reasons why you think a record is really bad - here's
> two of my favorites both from 1962:
> Alfred E. Neuman's "It's A Gas" and Sonny Gianotta's "The Last Blast Of
> The Blasted Bugler" These and other "bad" rcords are a blessing after
> listening to more serious stuff.
Indeed, the "Neuman" is cute, but Gianotta has a wonderfully warped sense of
humor. Of course, these are intentionally funny - there's a whole other
"bad" which comes from complete innocence, like the Shaggs and my favorite
musical foul, the any-number-but-12 bar blues of the flip of Angel Baby,
"Give Me Love". (Speaking of "Neuman," on the same Mad Magazine album - on
Bigtop c. 1962 - is a group called the Dellwoods doing "I'll Never Make Fun
of Her Mustache Again". Utterly mock-sincere and priceless!) And then there
are the ones that find you saying, "What were they thinking when the
recorded this?!?" I just tripped across "Tip" by the Clingman Clan on 4
Corners (probably mid 60's), another dead-doggie disc - pretty enough till
you listen to the lyric. Loy Clingman was a respectable country-rockin'
guy - "The Man Who Made An Angel Cry" being prime material. Must've been
something in the water....
Cut-ins: Tony writes, "'The Trial,' released in 1959 (I believe), is a
novelty/break-in song written by Herb Alpert and Lou Adler." Sadly, one of
the less-funny of the cut-ins to my ears. Another of the same era is "Washer
Windshield" doing "Kathy Young Finds The Innocents Guilt" on Indigo, all
excerpts featuring those artists. The only copies I've seen were one-sided -
blank flip. One more of note, especially considering Ron Landry's recent
passing, is "Dee Jay's Dilemma" on the Zee label, issued by a distributor in
East Hartford, CT. The alleged artist, "The Incognito's" [sic], was really
Landry and a hyperactive splicing block. This is quite funny and features
many quick edits. At the time of the record's release, he was at WDRC in
Hartford, but was known out west as half of the team of Hudson & Landry, who
had albums on Dore (if I remember correctly) as well as a morning radio
show.
Country Paul
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 23:34:42 -0500
From: Warren Cosford
Subject: For Artie Wayne
Hi Artie: As a kid I was a big fan of Jack Scott's. In 1962
he recorded Laugh and The World Laughs With You which, of course
as you know, was written by you and Ben Raleigh. We made it a
Top 10 hit in Winnipeg Manitoba Canada. Do you know if it was
a hit anywhere else? Who else recorded it?
Thanks
Warren Cosford
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 06:29:25 -0500
From: Robert Pietrusko
Subject: Re: France Gall
Tom:
> I love that French girlpop by the likes of France Gall, Francoise
> Hardy and Claudine Longet. Very hard to find videoclips of them...
There are a few here and there. I have a video of France Gall with
Serge doing "Dents des Loupe," first at a piano then in a dance club,
quite a lot of fun. There is also a video of Francoise Hardy, hmm,
I can't quite remember which song it is, she is at a fair in the
autumn, very lovely... I can double check if anyone is interested,
it might be one of the Scopitones previously mentioned.
I haven't seen anything featuring Claudine Longet.
By far, it seems BB has the most videos.
-bobby.
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http://www.simdisc.com
http://www.cSounds.com/
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 08:44:04 -0000
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Songs by US songwriters for which there is no US original record
Re: Songs by US songwriters for which there is no US original record.
Bung the following on the list:
I Can't Say No To Your Kiss - Helen Shapiro (Phil Spector/Doc Pomus)
I'll Come Running Over - Lulu (Bert Berns)
Personally, I'd find it much more interesting if we confined the
ongoing list to: songs by US songwriters for which there is not only
no US original record but no US record at all.
Gotta run.
MICK PATRICK
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 02:34:41 -0800
From: Scott Swanson
Subject: Re: Songs by US songwriters for which there is no US original record
What about Bert Berns and "Here Comes The Night" - recorded
by TWO U.K. artists (Lulu & Them) in 1964.
I know Berns gave a few other songs to U.K. artists, but I
don't know if those songs were exclusive.
Regards,
Scott
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 09:37:00 -0000
From: Delia Barnard
Subject: RE: The Actionettes
Hello Jimmy/Potential Actionettes...
Actionettes delights in being a sexist organization whereby
we ONLY LET LADIES JOIN!
You boys go and start your own dance troupe!
We will be happy to have joint shows with you though...
Location is not a problem as long as you don't mind travelling
to shows....You will have to learn the dances by email though!
Any potential members get in touch with deliadansette@hotmail.com
http://www.actionettes.com for more info.
We have some Xmas loveliness planned! More info soon...
x Delia x
P.S. Main criteria for Actionettes membership is the ability to
appreciate the finer points of glitter and alchohol (though we
DO have a teetotal Actionette!!!!).
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 11:24:17 -0000
From: Lindsay
Subject: Re: The Chiffons' Sweet Talkin' Guy (rerecording?)
Eric Charge wrote:
> THE one perfect record in my humble collection is the
> Chiffons' "Sweet Talkin' Guy". It has thrilled me...
Thrilling indeed. Pure joyous pop at its very, very best.
Flawless in every detail!
I have on tape, from a long-forgotten oldies radio show, a
version of this, supposedly by The Chiffons, which is most
obviously distinguishable from the authentic track by an
organ substituting for the oboe.
(Hey, it is an oboe, isn't it??!!!)
Odd thing is, I am always surprised by how much I like this
alternative version, which I take to be one of those re-
recordings with "some members of the original group". (I am
usually scornfully dismissive of such efforts.)
The organ works well, strange to say, and the vocal is really
nice and fresh.
Perhaps someone here knows what it is I'm listening to!
Lindsay
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 12:59:10 -0500
From: Rat Pfink
Subject: Re: Loose Ends "Free Soul"
Bill:
> Finally, does anyone have the record "A Free Soul" by The Loose Ends?
> It is a mid-60s folk rock single featuring T-Bone Burnett on guitar.
I just played The Loose Ends' "Free Soul" to Musica...
RP
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 11:15:12 -0800 (PST)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: Jack Scott / Kenny Young / Brian Hyland
Hey Warren.....I was a big fan of Jack Scott too. I saw him at an Alan
Freed Rock and Roll revue once....I was real proud when he recorded,
"Laugh and the world laughs with you".
Paul ......Kenny Young also wrote " Don't go out into the rain your
gonna' melt sugar" for Hermans' Hermits. Kenny is an American....and
we hung out a lot in the early sixties. Once....before the royalties
started coming...in the dead of winter ...with snow on the ground....
I remember Kenny and I ...in light sport jackets...walking in backwards
to exclusive NY night clubs [they would think we had been inside already
...and we would'nt have to pay a cover] We would then make our way to a
piano where we would sing Beatle songs for drinks. I haven't seen Kenny
since he moved to England.
Ian Chapman:
> ...I spoke with Brian Hyland a couple of weeks ago after one of his
> current UK shows, about the "Joker Went Wild" album. He said both
> Leon Russell and Hal Blaine were on it. He also said he'd read
> Hal's book.
Ian.........Sounds like Brian Hyland's album might have been cut in
several different places......Does anyone have a copy of the album to
check this out?
regards, Artie Wayne
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 13:45:44 +0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Re: Songs by US songwriters for which there is no US original record
Mick Patrick wrote:
> One suspects this thread has legs!
I'm curious about the process by which these songs flew across the ocean
for their first flings, when there were so many great artists hungry for
fine material here in their home nation (and I know that the same
process also worked from time to time going in the opposite direction).
Can we generalize that most of these songs were first offered to
American artists, and were even perhaps recorded but not released by
them, prior to their being offered abroad? Or, did the shifts in power
dynamics caused by the so-called British Invasion allow provide English
artists, managers, producers and labels with enough clout with U.S.
publishers and songwriters to occasionally get first crack at their
material?
Paul Richards wrote:
> he's American, he wrote "Under The Boardwalk" & "Captain Of
> Your Ship" also.
The latter of which might serve to introduce a related category:
American recordings that were hits only in England, or vice versa.
--Phil M.
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 12:08:13 -0800 (PST)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: Songs by US songwriters for which there is no US original record
Mick......Let's not forget "Little Children" [Pomus/ Shuman] by Billy
J. Kramer.....and another song by Freddy and the Dreamers....produced
by Dennis Lambert and Lou Courtney ....for the now infamous "Do the
Freddy" album..."In my Baby's Arms" which I wrote with Ben Raleigh.
regards, Artie Wayne
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 21:15:27 -0000
From: Amber
Subject: Re: the Actionettes......Listen Jimmy, can you Shimmy???
> How might I audition to become an Actionette? Should I pass the
> no-doubt rigorous pre-selection process, would I have to
> re-locate? Please advise.==Jimmy C.==
Listen Jimmy, can you Shimmy? Can you do the Bird? Barracuda, Monkey,
Watusi??? Perhaps you can Pop Eye? Mashed Potato, Ride, Bristol
Stomp??? How about the Slow Twist, the Fly, the Limbo? Madison,
Roach, Monkey??? The Bug, the Pony, the Frug - can you do these too?
I can!
Hey guy, can you Fly? Do you Hully Gully? Boogaloo, Dog, Horse???
Can you do the Continental Walk? Surely you can Stomp? Do you know
the Uncle Willie? This fezneckie does! Remember the Crossfire from
'63? The Sloop, the Twine, the Charge??? Bet you can't Boston Monkey.
Step aside, because I can!
Tell me baby, can you Gravy? Can you Jerk like me? The Funky
Broadway? A piece of cake! The Philly Dog? In my sleep! The Function
At The Junction? Baby cakes, I invented the Function At The freakin'
Junction!!! Can you Hitch-Hike? The Popcorn and the Yolk? Yessiree,
I can do them both.
And before I continue with my beauty routine, just let me tell you
one more tiny thing, Jimmy Ceeeeeeeeee. Sweetie, I am just SO better
looking than you are it's not true. As luck would have it, I take
after my Mom. I have been trapped in a timewarp here in Baltimore for
too long. I could slip into some heals, click along to the airport
and join the ranks of the Actionettes in a second. When and if they
have a vacancy, as long as that darn Tracy T. doesn't show her fat
face (Sssssssss), that job is MINE!!!
Failing that, perhaps Elisabeth needs a backing singer? Maybe if I
could get in her good books she'd quit bidding against me for shoes
on Ebay! We take the same size. Bummer! Until then, I'll pull out my
precious Jackie Ross and Ruby & the Romantics 45s and pretend. I'm
quite good at that too (sigh).
A.V.T.xx
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 08:35:26 -0500
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: Byrds
Bill George:
> Earlier in the book, he opens the discussion of whether
> or not the Byrds played on their own records. According to
> Chris Hillman and everyone else interviewed, "Mr. Tambourine
> Man" featured McGuinn on electric 12-string and McGuinn,
> Clark and Crosby on vocals. All the other instruments were
> played by studio musicians. But the quintet of McGuinn, Clark,
> Hillman, Crosby and Clarke played on all the other recordings.
Not so fast, Jackson. Hal Blaine played on "Turn Turn Turn".
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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 00:02:44 -0700
From: Guy Lawrence
Subject: Don Ralke
F. Wright wrote:
> I never thought of Don Ralke as "exotica". After beefing
> up Jan & Arnie's "Jennie Lee", he directed many of the
> early Warner Bros. records by Edd Byrnes, Connie Stevens,
> Dick & Dee Dee, Joanie Sommers, and Tab Hunter. They were
> billed on the label "with the BIG SOUND of Don Ralke".
Then he went on to co-produce and arrange the absolutely
gorgeous sounding Sunrays with Murry Wilson - one of the most
under-rated acts of the era.
Regards,
Guy.
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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 22:20:19 -0000
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Songs by US songwriters for which there is no US original record
Two more for the list, both Ellie Greenwich songs, not that
I'm obsessed with her, or anything, yunnerstan?
Talk About Me - Mina
(Ellie Greenwich/Ben Raleigh)
Who Are You Gonna Love This Winter - Sys Gregers
(Ellie Greenwich/Doc Pomus)
Mina is Italian, Miss Gregers from the Netherlands. All this
information comes courtesy of the one and only J.D., a bigger
Ellie Greenwich expert there never was.
MICK PATRICK
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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 23:13:53 +0100
From: Jan Kristensen
Subject: Re: Art for Artie's sake
Artie Wayne on CD: I found "Where Does A Rock & Roll Singer
Go?" together with "Try & Try Again" under the name Art Wayne
on a German series called "Teenage Dreams Vol 7". The flipside
to "Rock And Roll Singer" - "I Hurt That Girl" - can be found
on a Spanish CD called "So why did you sing like me, Dion?"
which is a CD of 25 Dion sound-a-like singers (sic). I believe
that both CDs are a little bit "shady", but the German series
are very well done with an excellent booklet to each CD.
Here's what they say about Art(ie) Wayne: "Artie Wayne started
to record for LIBERTY in 1956, but his first records were Pop
releases not Teener. His first and best Teen record "Try & Try
Again" was released in 1961 for the small New York based XAVIER
label under the name Art Wayne. In 1963 the great 2-sider "Where
Does A Rock & Roll Singer Go?" b/w "I Hurt That Girl" was out
on LIBERTY 55625. His XAVIER record was produced by Ernest Kelly,
prob. with instrumental backing by his partner Al Browne, while
Garry Sherman arranged the Liberty release."
No photo alas, but you share the limelight with among others
Aki Aleong, Nick Venet and Carol Connors.
Jan K
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Message: 22
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 18:04:28 -0500
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: Brian Hyland
Artie Wayne wrote:
> .....Sounds like Brian Hyland's album might have been cut
> in several different places...Does anyone have a copy of
> the album to check...
It doesn't say where it was cut, but what it does say is that
arrangements were by Leon Russell and Al Capps, production by
Snuff Garrett, and engineers were Dave Hassinger and Henry
Lewy. The cover sports a newly minted more sensitive Bryan
strumming a tawny brown hollow body electric 6 string with a
velour long-sleeved tee to match, in somewhat of a shoe-gazer's
pose. The equally-matching hair is relaxed, allowed to tumble
forward and slightly to the side. The Beatles meet the Beach
Boys visually. It's now winter's Beach Boy if you will......
JB
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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 00:49:03 -0000
From: Mike Edwards
Subject: Songs by US songwriters; Freddie & The Dreamers; RPM CDs etc
Thanks to all who are making contributions to "Songs by US
songwriters for which there is no US original record" list.
As with all lists, you then want to hear the records. How
about Helen Shapiro singing a Phil Spector-Doc Pomus song?
Wow, pretty mind-boggling prospect!
Phil Milstein writes:
> I'm curious about the process by which these songs flew
> across the ocean for their first flings.
I assume we all are, and one group that seems to have been
involved in that process more that you would think is Freddie
& The Dreamers. Dennis Lambert's " Do The Freddie" has already
been mentioned. Artie Wayne has just pointed out that he and
Ben Raleigh wrote "In My Baby's Arms" for the ensuing album.
There's another one for the list. (I'll play this to musica
when space becomes available). There is also a Bacharach-David
song, "I Fell In Love With Your Picture" in F&TDs' catalog. It
appears on their albums, "King Freddie & His Dreaming Knights"
(UK, 1967) and "Fun Lovin' Freddie" (US, 1965). Anyone know of
an original US version?
Moving on to the 3 RPM UK Girls' CDs, I find some intriguing
titles. Patsy Ann Noble's "Sour Grapes' is credited to Ruth
Batchelor and Bob Roberts ("The Best Man Cried", "King Of The
Whole Wide World"). Is there a US version? If not, as Phil says,
you do wonder about the process (this time period was pre-Beatles).
Deano's "Baby Let Me Be Your Baby" shows Ben Raleigh and Bob
Halley as the songwriters. Again is there a US version?
What an impressive list of songs Ben Raleigh has to his credit
(his name is coming up a lot recently). I have not yet been able
to nail a copy of Mina's "Just Let Me Cry" (Barkan-Raleigh), which
has been talked up on this site. Any chance of a listen?
Mike Edwards
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Message: 24
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 22:52:53 EST
From: Mike Rashkow
Subject: Re: The Chiffons' Sweet Talkin' Guy
The Doug Morris you're speaking of is CEO of Universal Records
these days.
And yeah, a great record. I actually own a copy of the track.
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Message: 25
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 09:47:31 -0800
From: David Ponak
Subject: The Liquid Room 11/17/2002
The Liquid Room, (usually) hosted by David Ponak (me), airs
every Saturday night from Midnight to 3AM (PDT) on 90.7FM KPFK
Los Angeles, as well as streaming at http://kpfk.org.
The Liquid Room 11/17/2002
1.The Association/Come On In
Birthday (WB)
2.Pastel Vespa/L'Anarchie Dans L'U.K.
L'Anarchie (Siesta-Spain)
3.2 many dj's/God Only Knows/Billy Jean
As Heard On Soulwax Radio Vol. 1 (CDR)
4.DJ Me DJ You/People Together
The Music (Eenie Meenie)
5.Tahiti 80/1000 Times
Wallpaper For The Soul (Minty Fresh)
6.Love/Orange Skies
Da Capo (Elektra)
7.Mello Cads w/Paul Williams/The Drifter
Soft As A Rock (Franklin Castle)
8.Elvis Costello/Clowntime Is Over
Get Happy (Rykodisc)
9.Amon Tobin/Back From Space
Out From...Where (Ninjatune)
10.Rita Chao/Raindrops Keep Falling On My Head (Cantonese)
LP (EMI/Columbia)
11.Zongamin/Serious Trouble
Tim 'Love' Lee-It's All Good (mix cd) (Keepdiggin)
12.Spooky Pie/Girls Will Save The World
Audios (800 Records)
13.The Aluminum Group/Pop
Happyness (Wishing Tree)
14.Blossom Dearie/I Like London In The Rain
Whisper For You (Polydor-Japan)
15.David Holmes/Paper Underwear
David Holmes presents The Free Association (13 Amp)
16.Scott Walker/Joe
'Til The Band Comes In (BGO-UK)
17.Spookey Ruben/Tricky Boy Wonder
Bed (Hi-Hat)
18.Bill Deal and The Rhondels/Hey Bulldog
The Best Of (Rhino)
19.Volovan/Ella Es Azul
Volovan (Lakeshore)
20.Dean Martin/Houston
Greatest Hits (Capitol)
21.Saint Etienne/Amateur
Finisterre (Mantra/Beggars Banquet)
22.Saint Etienne/Tomorrow Never Dies
Built On Sand-Rarities: 1994-1999 (MN)
23. Saint Etienne/Jack Lemmon
The Misadventures Of Saint Etienne (L'Appareil-Photo-Japan)
24.Wondermints/Porpoise Song
Wonderful World Of... (Toys Factory-Japan)
25.The Bee Gees/First Of May
Odessa (Polydor)
26.Vivabeat/Man From China
Party In The War Zone (Charisma)
27.Lemon Jelly/Nice Weather For Ducks
Lost Horizons (XL)
28.Sketch Show/Turn Turn
Audio Sponge (Daisyworld)
29.Mason Williams/Baroque-A-Nova
Phonograph Record (WB)
30.Café Tacuba/Dejate Caer
Vale Callampa (MCA)
31.Lee Hazlewood/Leather & Lace
Cowboy In Sweden (SLR)
32.The Flaming Lips/Can't Get You Out Of My Head
Yoshimi Wins-Live Radio Sessions (WB Promo)
33.The Chopsticks/The Chopsticks
Some Day (Crown)
34.Sigur Ros/Track 3
( ) (MCA)
35.Scott Walker/Thanks For Chicago Mr. James
'Til The Band Comes In (BGO-UK)
36.Solomon Burke/Soul Searchin'
Don't Give Up On Me (Anti)
37.Curt Boettcher/Tumbling Tumbleweeds
Misty Mirage (Dreamsville-Japan)
38.Dodgy/Good Enough
Free Peace Sweet (Epic-UK)
39.Death In Vegas/Leather & Girls
Scorpio Rising (BMG-UK)
40.Kraftwerk/Tanzmusik
Ralf & Florian (Vertigo)
41.Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark/She's Leaving
Architecture & Morality (Virgin)
42.The 5th Dimension/Summer's Daughter
The Magic Garden (Soul City)
43.The Blades Of Grass/Pageant
Are Not For Smoking (Rev-Ola-UK)
44.Paul Williams/Mornin' I'll Be Movin' On
Someday Man (Reprise)
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