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There are 12 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. New at Spectropop
From: Spectropop
2. Re: Graham Gouldman
From: Jeff Lemlich
3. My Sweet Lord Plagiarism Suit
From: bryan
4. Subject: Re: Copyrights (Bill Wyman)
From: Norman
5. more on Gamma Goochee
From: Phil Milstein
6. Teresa Graves
From: Stuffed Animal
7. Helen Shapiro - Original US versions
From: Mike Edwards
8. Re: Herman's Hermits
From: Mikey
9. Re: Helen Shapiro - Original US versions
From: Mick Patrick
10. Songs by US songwriters for which there is no US original record
From: Phil Milstein
11. American artist, overseas-only hit
From: Phil Milstein
12. Helen Shapiro
From: Ian Chapman
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:54:05 -0000
From: Spectropop
Subject: New at Spectropop
Dear Members,
New at Spectropop Recommends: The Ramones
One, two, three, four... The Ramones' Phil Spector-produced
"End Of The Century" album is back in the shops in digital format.
Martin Roberts brushes his hair over his eyes, dons his black
leather jacket and torn jeans to get in the mood. Click below to
read his review:
http://www.spectropop.com/recommends/index.htm#ramones
Gabba, Gabba, Hey!
The Spectropop Team
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 14:08:41 -0000
From: Jeff Lemlich
Subject: Re: Graham Gouldman
Artie Wayne wrote:
> When Graham Gouldman chose to do "One by One" as a single
> for the Mockingbirds I was knocked out!! He was one of my
> favorite writers...with all the Hollies and Yardbird stuff!!
Artie,
I totally agree! The Mockingbirds did an ace version of your
song. It's come out in recent years on a few compilations,
including an "English Freakbeat" album! Didn't Gouldman & the
Mockingbirds record this about a year or so prior to your Shadow
Mann album?
Also... do you remember who played on your "Automated Man"
single? Another really good pop-psych tune there!
Jeff Lemlich
http://www.limestonerecords.com
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 06:26:33 -0800
From: bryan
Subject: My Sweet Lord Plagiarism Suit
http://abbeyrd.best.vwh.net/mysweet.htm
This link will take you to a very interesting web article by
Joseph Self, called "The "My Sweet Lord"/"He's So Fine"
Plagiarism Suit". I encourage anyone who wants to know more
about what *actually* happened to check it out.
It's quite a story.
Bryan
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 22:40:23 +1030
From: Norman
Subject: Subject: Re: Copyrights (Bill Wyman)
Hello,
I have a couple of names which are basically a direct copy
of other people's names; Mind you, although the originals are
well dead, I wonder what the individual's Estates would have
thought?
Engelbert Humperdinck (Gerry Dorsey)
David Garrick (Darrell Corre)
and talking of things Shakespearian,
William Shakespeare (Johnny Cabe)
also: re Herman's Hermits
Much of the "Music Hall" songs they did were not as popular in
England as they were in the US. And, only Peter Noone appeared on
record. The group did the touring but not the recording. Any
suggestions on who played on those sessions?
Norman
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 09:55:38 +0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: more on Gamma Goochee
Now playing on musica, "Booga Looa" by the Gamma Goochee himself. I've
also posted a scan of the pic sleeve (country of origin unknown) to the
photos section. Now come on and let's burn some soul.
--Phil M.
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 18:12:36 +0000
From: Stuffed Animal
Subject: Teresa Graves
I was shocked and saddened to learn recently of the tragic
passing of singer/actress/comedienne Teresa Graves. She was
burned to death in her home after a space heater caught fire.
I have fond memories of seeing her on Rowan and Martin's
"Laugh-In", and of course, her TV movie "Get Christie Love!"
has a large cult following of which I'm a member. I strongly
recommend her 1970 Kirshner album TERESA GRAVES to all
Spectropoppers. Miss Graves brought her comedy and considerable
vocal talents to twelve sparkling tunes, most written by Brill
Building vets Ritchie Adams and Mark Barkan. Believe me, you've
never heard anything like it! It's one of the most treasured
albums in my collection.
RIP Teresa Graves
"You're under arrest, sugar!"
Stuffed Animal
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 18:29:12 -0000
From: Mike Edwards
Subject: Helen Shapiro - Original US versions
Hopefully Spectropop members can help me complete this. I would
be grateful if Helen's fans would check over Part 1 to see if the
correct US original (or lack of one) has been identified and fill
in the blanks in Part 2 where Fred Tobias and Paul Evans seem to
have been pretty active (albeit unknowingly). Some of theses tracks
come from Helen's 1963 album, "In Nashville", in which case hers
may well have been the original version.
Part 1 – known
Tell Me What He Said
Wr: Jeff Barry
US: Playmates (Roulette, 1961)
Keep Away From Other Girls
Wr: Bacharach-Hilliard
US: Babs Tino (Kapp, 1962)
Queen For Tonight
Wr: Raleigh-Wayne
US: None (as confirmed by Artie Wayne)
Woe Is Me
Wr: Sheeley-DeShannon
US: None (as confirmed by Mick Patrick)
Look Over Your Shoulder
Wr: Richards-Thomas-Thomas
US: Chuck Jackson (Wand, 1964)
Tomorrow Is Another Day
Wr: Millrose-Rosenblatt
US: Doris Troy (Atlantic, 1963)
Ole Father Time
Wr: Winfield-Scott
US: Milly Foster (TCF 4, 1964) (needs to be confirmed)
I Was Only Kidding
Wr: Goffin-King
US: Molly Bee (Liberty, 1963)
Not Responsible
Wr: Barkan-Raleigh
US: Gene Pitney (Musicor, 1963)
I Can't Say No To Your Kiss
Wr: Spector-Pomus
US: None (as confirmed by Mick Patrick)
(I have not heard this title)
Forget About The Bad Things
Wr: Diamond-Radcliffe
US: None (as confirmed by Mick Patrick)
(appears on the Dutch EMI CD, "The Story Of")
Part 2 – Not known
Daddy Couldn't Get Me One Of Those
Wr: Tobias-Evans
I Walked In (With My Eyes Wide Open)
Wr: Byers
It's So Funny I Could Cry
Wr: Raleigh
Young Stranger
Wr: Singleton-Ott
No Trespassing
Wr: Tobias-Evans
When You Hurt Me I Cry
Wr: Tobias-Evans
Thanks,
Mike Edwards
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 13:29:51 -0500
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: Herman's Hermits
Norman:
> ...only Peter Noone appeared on record. The group did the
> touring but not the recording. suggestions on who played
> on those sessions?
Norman, actually, The Hermits played on 80% of the records.
The remaining 20% were done with Jimmy Page, Clem Cattinni,
etc, the normal Micky Most session crew. I believe it's only
the first few hits (excluding Show Me Girl) that use the session
guys.
This info came from Barry Whitwam, the drummer for Hermans
Hermits since 1963.
Regards,
Your Friend,
Mikey
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 21:20:34 -0000
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Helen Shapiro - Original US versions
Mike Edwards:
> Hopefully Spectropop members can help me complete this. I would
> be grateful if Helen Shapiro's fans would check to see if the
> correct US original (or lack of one) has been identified and fill
> in the blanks.
Hope the following helps a little, Mike.
Ole Father Time
Wr: Winfield-Scott
US: Milly Foster (TCF 4, 1964) (needs to be confirmed)
***Correct.
It's So Funny I Could Cry
Wr: Raleigh
***Possibly Charles Pennywell (Smash 1794, 1963), Gary Paxton
(Liberty 55407, 1962) or Marion Worth (Columbia 42453, 1962).
Needs to be confirmed.
Young Stranger
Wr: Singleton-Ott
***Lady Luck & the Lullabyes (Philips 40102, 1963)
Excellent record.
When You Hurt Me I Cry
Wr: Tobias-Evans
***Possibly Paul Peek (Mercury 72118, 1963)
Needs to be confirmed.
MICK PATRICK
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 16:07:45 +0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Songs by US songwriters for which there is no US original record
Artie Wayne wrote:
> As early as 1961, US publishers would ask for original songs
> for top artists in other countries. They'd play us their
> latest records and we'd run off to write something.
So managers of overseas acts would on occasion* deliberately
contact U.S. publishers seeking top-shelf material? That sounds
logical, as the fact of the quality and hit-making ability of
Brill Building and other American writing dens was certainly
well-known worldwide. I walk away satisfied ...
--Phil M.
*As they clearly also made liberal use of the many fine writers
already under their noses, if not their thumbs.
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 16:12:48 +0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: American artist, overseas-only hit
To try to get one tangential ball rolling, how big a UK hit
was Gene Pitney's original (?) take on "That Girl Belongs To
Yesterday"? I don't believe it charted at all in the U.S.,
and for all I know (although I'm sure someone else does)
it didn't even appear on the plug-side of a 45.
--Phil M.
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 21:16:52 -0000
From: Ian Chapman
Subject: Helen Shapiro
Mike Edwards re. Helen Shapiro's US originals:
> Tell Me What He Said
> Wr: Jeff Barry
> US: Playmates (Roulette, 1961)
> I Was Only Kidding
> Wr: Goffin-King
> US: Molly Bee (Liberty, 1963)
Mike,
Ginny Arnell's version of "Tell Me What He Said" appeared in
1960 (Decca 31190), likewise Ann-Margret did "I Was Only
Kidding" in 1962 on RCA 47-8061.
Ian
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