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There are 15 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Delia and Her Actionettes
From: Jimmy Crescitelli
2. Musician wanted to help on pop project
From: Jed Dubois
3. Re: Songs by US songwriters for which there is no US original record
From: Artie Wayne
4. Re: Where Does A Rock'n'Roll Singer Go?
From: Artie Wayne
5. Re: Art for Arties' sake
From: Jeff Lemlich
6. Re: Songs by US songwriters for which there is no US original record
From: Peter Lerner
7. Re: Copyrights
From: Dan Hughes
8. Re: Graham Gouldman
From: Artie Wayne
9. Re: Helen Shapiro sings Phil Spector
From: Mick Patrick
10. Re: April March
From: James Botticelli
11. Re: BYRDS In the Studio
From: Lee
12. Re: how can they do that?
From: Dave Swanson
13. Re: cut-ins
From: Doc Rock
14. Re: how can they do that?
From: Eddy Smit
15. Re: Copyrights (Bill Wyman)
From: Lindsay
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 16:49:27 EST
From: Jimmy Crescitelli
Subject: Delia and Her Actionettes
Delia!
Well, burn my clothes! And it was SO my desire to be an
Actionette in 2003. And, should my reign have to be cut
short due to political, emotional, or other reasons, my
replacement was ready and willing to step into my shoes
(as it were). Big ;)
Would be GREAT if your group could take it all on tour,
you know? I know plenty of folks who would really enjoy
the songs, the hair, the shoes and the choreography. And
yes... I'd be able to learn the dance routines via email
.... I taught myself Albanian in that manner, after all!
Thanks for writing,
Jim
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 17:25:56 +0100
From: Jed Dubois
Subject: Musician wanted to help on pop project
Hello my name is Jean-Emmanuel Deluxe (Dubois) and I'm in charge
of Euro-visions (http://www.euro-visions.net), a label distributed
all over the world (even if it's small quantities! ;-)
First release was April March's "Gainsbourgsion!", then Jean-Emmanuel
Deluxe & Alexander Faem "Tribute to Alain Delon & Jean-Pierre Melville"
featuring as guests Bertrand Burgalat/April March/Saint Etienne/Jacno
etc. And now as a licence in France: Pete Aves' "Bystanding" (Pete is
a musician for the High llamas/Lee Hazlewood). We have had good press
so far, but I need some help for my next recording project read below:
I have the same problem that some non-technically minded musicians
have, my friends and collaborators simply can't in due time work
with me on all the tracks I want to make for my next album.
Here's how I work: First, I write lyrics, then I record them to
minidisc with a melody, and give this to a keyboard player. After
that, I give some opinions and stuff, and eventually get an arranger.
Then off to the studio.
So if you accept to work with me on some songs, I give you the CD
with my vocal melody+lyrics+some suggestions about the "direction".
On author rights I give you 50% as the composer (or 40% if somebody
else is doing the arrangements) - then you send back the played track
to me.
Of course if you accept my contract we have to give the artist
interested a % of record sale - but I can't give an advance. I don't
know, maybe I'm stupid to ask you that - but, nothing ventured,
nothing gained! (qui ne tente rien n'a rien!) I would like to release
an album somewhere between Harry Nilsson/sophisticated French pop/
vintage electronica etc...! I can give some cool stuff (cd's etc) by
way of thanks to the musicians during the making.
Is there a musician out there who would like to help on my project?
Best-
JEd :-)
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 11:27:49 -0800 (PST)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: Songs by US songwriters for which there is no US original record
Phil Milstein:
> I'm curious about the process by which these songs flew across the
> ocean for their first flings
Phil.....As early as 1961, US publishers would ask for original songs
for top artists in other countries. They'd play us their latest
records and we'd run off to write something. Paul Vance got the first
recording on "Meet me where we used to meet" [D.Jordan/J.Powers/A.Wayne]
by Brian Poole and the Tremoloes, released as the B-side of "Someone,
Someone" in the US; Ed Silvers and I wrote "Am I losing my touch?" that
the Fortunes recorded first. And " Shanghaied on your Ship of love" I
wrote with Mitch [Sooner or Later] Bottler for Carl Douglas. I tracked
the producer, Biddu, halfway 'round the world to get him to listen to
it.....once he did he became the first to cut it.
regards, Artie Wayne
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 11:50:51 -0800 (PST)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: Where Does A Rock'n'Roll Singer Go?
Phil...No need to audition...I like the way you put words together.
Where does a rock 'n' roll singer go
When his record's off the chart?
What does a rock 'n' roll singer do
When times get mighty hard?
Does he sell ay-ay ice cream
With a dip-di di dip of a peppermint twist?
Does he just sit back in his Cadillac
When his bills are over due
Can our teen heartthrob get a regular job
When singin's all he ever knew
Can he tune a car just like his guitar
Is he a mechanic now?
Or does he teach school with his golden rule
PAPA OO-PAPA OO MOW-MOW
Does he sell ay-ay Ice cream
With a dip-di di dip of a peppermint twist.
Copyright 1963 - Hill and Range music
Words + Music - Artie Wayne
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 20:25:20 -0000
From: Jeff Lemlich
Subject: Re: Art for Arties' sake
Artie Wayne:
> My other solo releases were singles on Smash as Artie Wayne: Smash
> 2077 - Automated Man/Listen To The Flowers Growing
Good one!
> and an album Tomorrow productions distributed by Roulette as
> SHADOW MANN [not to be confused with Shadow Morton]
Artie, Are you familiar with the Mockingbirds' version of your Shadow
Mann song, "One By One"? Just wondering what you thought of it.
Thanks,
Jeff Lemlich
http://www.limestonerecords.com
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 23:05:51 -0000
From: Peter Lerner
Subject: Re: Songs by US songwriters for which there is no US original record
Jackie DeShannon and "Come and stay with me" - recorded by Marianne
Faithfull some four or five years before Jackie came out with her own
version?
Peter
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 18:26:36 -0600
From: Dan Hughes
Subject: Re: Copyrights
JB:
> I heard a report on the Warner Brothers, makers of the film
> 'Casablanca', suing the Marx Brothers for using the word in
> 'Night In Casablanca'.
Hi James,
I believe that story (of Marx/Warner Brothers and Casablanca)
appears in GROUCHO'S LETTERS, a collection of letters Groucho
wrote during his lifetime. It's been a lot of years since I
read that book, but I remember enjoying it thoroughly.
---Dan
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 17:38:11 -0800 (PST)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: Graham Gouldman
> Artie, Are you familiar with the Mockingbirds' version of your Shadow
> Mann song, "One By One"? Just wondering what you thought of it.
> Thanks, Jeff Lemlich
Jeff.....When Graham Gouldman chose to do "One by One" as a single for
the Mockingbirds I was knocked out!! He was one of my favorite writers
....with all of the Hollies and Yardbird stuff!!
regards, Artie Wayne
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 02:11:51 -0000
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: Re: Helen Shapiro sings Phil Spector
Original Message From Mike Edwards:
> Thanks to all who are making contributions to "Songs by US
> songwriters for which there is no US original record" list.
> As with all lists, you then want to hear the records. How
> about Helen Shapiro singing a Phil Spector-Doc Pomus song?
> Wow, pretty mind-boggling prospect!
Helen Shapiro's recording of the Spector/Pomus-penned "I Can't
Say No To Your Kiss" is available on the EMI CD "Helen Shapiro
At Abbey Road, 1961-1967" (4 93452 2). The track was recorded
in January 1962 but remained unissued until this 1998 CD. The
set contains four further previously unreleased masters,
including excellent versions of the Marvelettes' "You're My
Remedy" and Lesley Gore's "I'm Going Out (The Same Way I Came
In)". Don't get your mind too boggled Mike, the Spector-
authored song is possibly the least interesting contained on
this otherwise top class 28-tracker.
Btw, you may have forgotten this, but many years ago you sent
me a few cassettes containing girl group and Brill Building-
style tracks. I may have never thanked you. You might like to
know that I still play those tapes as they contain some great
selections I have been unable to locate on my preferred format - 07 inch single. So I am saying a big thank you now. As they
say, better late than never.
MICK PATRICK
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 21:25:15 -0500
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: April March
> ...First release was April March's "Gainsbourgsion!...
Fun fact to know and tell: April March is married to Warren Zanes,
formerly with the Del Fuegoes of 8T's roots-rock fame
JB
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 23:10:37 -0500
From: Lee
Subject: Re: BYRDS In the Studio
Mikey wrote:
> Yea, Terry Melcher used the Wrecking crew on most of his
> productions, and why not? They knew how to make the hits.
> The Rip Chords, The Fantastic Baggies, Bruce and Terry,
> The Woodies, The Legendary Masked Surfers, The Wheel Men...
> all TM productions, all Wrecking Crew.
Mikey, I beg to differ -- The Fantastic Baggies were Sloan/Barri,
with a little Lou Adler thrown in; no TM. The Woodies -- who were
they? Never heard of them. Legendary Masked Surfers was a Dean
Torrence vehicle, with vocal support by Bruce and Terry. Wheel Men
were Gary Usher and his "troops" all the way. Head back to "Surf/
Hot Rod 101" for additional homework ;-)
With regards to the LA sessioneers playing on the Byrds tracks, I've
always thought it was amusing that Michael Clarke vehemently asserted
in the booklet to the Byrds boxed set that he played on everything
after the the first single ("Mr. Tambourine Man" / "I Knew I'd Want
You"), but that same boxed set clearly has Hal Blaine doing the count-
in on "She Don't Care About Time!"
Lee
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 23:41:44 -0500
From: Dave Swanson
Subject: Re: how can they do that?
We always knew Danny was the real talent in the Partridge Family. On a
similar note, check out the first song on side one of The Osmonds album
"Crazy Horses" called "Hold Her Tight"...it is a blatant rip off of
Led Zep's "Immigrant Song". Seriously! In a related story, the song
"Crazy Horses" by the Osmonds actually bears a strong similarity to
"Welcome To The Jungle" by Guns N Roses, which, by the way, took it's
title from the Hanoi Rocks song "Underwater World". Everyone got that.
It's all down to useless knowledge. And rock and roll.
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 00:08:54 -0500
From: Doc Rock
Subject: Re: cut-ins
Another of the same era is "Washer Windshield" doing "Kathy Young Finds
The Innocents Guilt" on Indigo, all excerpts featuring those artists.
The only copies I've seen were one-sided - blank flip. I have it on a
Kathy Young LP.
Doc
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 07:15:14 +0100
From: Eddy Smit
Subject: Re: how can they do that?
I don't think "He's So Fine" and "My Sweet Lord" are *that* similar.
I've heard more blatant rip-offs ! But yes, that was George's
explanation. He also said that MSL was *inspired* by Oh Happy Day and
he wanted to make something like that. Hence the easy singalong groove.
But let's be honest here...do you really think George would need to
rip-off somebody at the height of his creativity? Let's not forget HSF
was only a #16 hit in the UK in the spring of 1963. In other words,
what were the chances the Beatles heard this song more than once or
twice at a time when Beatlemania was *really* kicking in?!
Eddy
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 07:23:11 -0000
From: Lindsay
Subject: Re: Copyrights (Bill Wyman)
James wrote:
> the Marx Brothers were copyrighted before Warner Brothers existed
> and that the Marxes would sue the Warners for using "brothers"
> after the Marx boys used it!
That story came to mind when I read this week about a journalist
called Bill Wyman who's been cautioned about how he uses "Bill Wyman".
In the manner of Groucho to Warners, the journalistic Wyman points
out that he was born in 1961 and the Rolling Stone formerly known as
William George Perks didn't start using "Bill Wyman" till 1963!
Bill Wyman's column on this is at:
http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/living/1102/14wyman.html
(BTW, I can't remember where I found this link... If I found it in a
recent Spectropop message, and you all know about it anyway, please
forgive me!)
Lindsay
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