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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Cliff Richard sings Neil Diamond
From: Mike Edwards
2. Re: Artie Wayne at Scepter
From: Simon White
3. Re: Artie Wayne's Christmas Tree
From: Artie Wayne
4. Re: Artie Wayne at Scepter
From: Artie Wayne
5. Re: P-Nut Gallery / Flying Giraffe
From: Jeffrey Glenn
6. Re: Artie Wayne at Scepter
From: James Botticelli
7. Re: Strawberry Jam / Jamme
From: Mark Frumento
8. Re: Strawberry Jam / Jamme
From: Jeff Lemlich
9. Re: the Ramones
From: Dave Swanson
10. Re: The Ramones under Artie Wayne's Christmas tree
From: Eddy Smit
11. Re: The Parade
From: Justin McDevitt
12. Re: The Clintons
From: Simon White
13. Re: the Clintons
From: Guy Lawrence
14. Re: The Clintons
From: Artie Wayne
15. Cramer, Benjamin to Enter Hall of Fame
From: Neb Rodgers
16. Re: Strawberry Jam / Jamme
From: Javed Jafri
17. Cliff hanger
From: Steve Harvey
18. HAPPY HOLIDAYS !!
From: Jimmy Crescitelli
19. Re: Gentryfied
From: Phil Milstein
20. Re: P-Nut Gallery / Flying Giraffe
From: Phil Milstein
21. Re: Hall of Fame / Strawberry Jam
From: Bryan
22. Re: Late 60s Anglophiles
From: Guy Lawrence
23. Re: Cliff hanger
From: Richard Tearle
24. Lori Burton
From: Guy Lawrence
25. Re: Pretty Flamingo
From: Mike Edwards
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 21:47:56 -0000
From: Mike Edwards
Subject: Cliff Richard sings Neil Diamond
Cliff Richard came to the US in 1964 and held 4 recording sessions, 02 in New York and 2 in Nashville. He put down 13 tracks but, unlike
Helen Shapiro with "Helen In Nashville", he did not put out a "Cliff
In America" album. Instead the tracks were dissipated over a-sides, b-
sides, albums and eps. Neil Diamond wrote one of the songs, "Just
Another Guy". It was originally issued in the UK as the b-side of "The
Minute You're Gone". I do not think that there was a US version nor do
I think it is available on any of Cliff's current CDs. Seems to be too
good a song to be buried this way.
Mike Edwards
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 01:11:57 +0000
From: Simon White
Subject: Re: Artie Wayne at Scepter
Mikey:
> Artie, my friend Tom Moulton worked at Scepter. Were you there
> when he was there?
Tom Moulton the genius? Now we're talking!
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 17:23:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: Artie Wayne's Christmas Tree
Yes....Phil there are two George Clintons....but only one Santa Claus !!!
regards, Artie Wayne
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 17:29:02 -0800 (PST)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: Artie Wayne at Scepter
David.....Thanks for the info.....I only had a nodding aquaintance
with Luther Dixon...I agree with you that his contributions to music
history are underrated.
Mikey.......The name Tom Moulton sounds really familiar....he might've
been in a dept. I wasn't in daily contact with.
regards, Artie Wayne
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 18:13:08 -0800
From: Jeffrey Glenn
Subject: Re: P-Nut Gallery / Flying Giraffe
I have both of these, and they're not the same recording - in fact
they're not even the same song. Here are the credits from the 45s:
Do You Know What Time It Is (Flax-Lambert) (P-Nut Gallery,
Buddah BDA-239: 1971, Produced by Bobby Flax & Lanny Lambert
for Very Very Productions Ltd.)
Bring Back Howdy Doody (J. Katz-J. Kasenetz-S. Doworkin-G. Willet)
(Flying Giraffe, Bell B-801: 1969, Produced by J. Katz and J.
Kasenetz - A Super K Production, A Product of Kasenetz-Katz Assoc.)
The Flying Giraffe song is based on the actual Howdy Doody theme,
while the P-Nut Gallery is simply a great slice of bubblegum (and
the better of the two IMHO).
If "Pow Wow" is a garage version of the Howdy Doody theme, I'm guessing
neither of these is the basis of it (these are both pure bubblegum).
Jeff
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 20:58:00 -0500
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: Artie Wayne at Scepter
> my friend Tom Moulton
a legend
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 03:32:00 -0000
From: Mark Frumento
Subject: Re: Strawberry Jam / Jamme
Mike Dugo wrote:
> Is anybody on this list familiar with a late '60's band named
> Strawberry Jam, or Jamme?
They were called Jamme and they were produced by John Phillips.
Really the group was two brothers: Don Adey and Keith Adey. The LP
is quite good. The songs really hold up even past the fake British
accents. Especially good is "Strawberry Jam Man" and "Jan."
They get seem to get grouped with a few of the other really good
British imitators of the day like Mortimer (sometimes dead ringers
for the Bee Gees). Another good band along these lines was Buckwheat
who were from Texas. My favorite of US bands wanting to be the
British was Family Tree (their LP was Miss Butters).
Maybe others can provide a list of thier favorite British wannabees
from the late 60s/70s?
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 04:31:23 -0000
From: Jeff Lemlich
Subject: Re: Strawberry Jam / Jamme
Mike Dugo wrote:
> Is anybody on this list familiar with a late '60's band named
> Strawberry Jam, or Jamme?
Hi Mike, The album came out under the name "Jamme", on Dunhill 50072.
There was also at least one single off the album, also on Dunhill.
Jeff Lemlich
http://www.limestonerecords.com
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 00:00:40 -0500
From: Dave Swanson
Subject: Re: the Ramones
Mick Patrick:
> A question: Is the...pre-"End Of The Century" LP (version of "Rock
> & Roll High Scool", the) one Spector was called in to remix for
> the movie soundtrack, out on CD?
The original soundtrack version is available on the soundtrack which is
still available on CD, maybe only as an import at this point. God bless
The Ramones!
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 07:47:41 +0100
From: Eddy Smit
Subject: Re: The Ramones under Artie Wayne's Christmas tree
Artie Wayne wrote:
> ... time I was Gen. Mgr. of Warner Brothers Music and in the summer
> of '72 I was sitting in my office with George S. Clinton [composer
> for "Austin Powers" 1, 02 and 3].
Phil M;
> This one a different George Clinton than the Parliafunkadeliment dude?
Yes. As far as I know he started off in Nashville, doing sessions &
writing. Went to LA where his songs got recorded by a.o. Michael
Jackson and Smokey Robinson. While still doing sessions, made 4 solo
albums, then formed the George Clinton Band. Went into movie
soundtracks 1983 with Still Smokin'. Did a lor of work for producer
Zalman King (movies and the Red Shoe Diaries series). Also did some
musical work.
Mick Patrick:
> An observation:
> Rhino's new revamped "End Of The Century" CD contains two
> versions of "Rock & Roll Highschool"; the original demo plus
> the Spector-produced recording.
> A question:
> Is the other version of the song, the pre-"End Of The Century"
> one Spector was called in to remix for the movie soundtrack,
> out on CD?
Mick, Isn't that the version that's on HEY HO LET'S GO - THE RAMONES
ANTHOLOGY ?!
Eddy
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 00:43:38 -0700
From: Justin McDevitt
Subject: Re: The Parade
Paul wrote:
> How can I get a copy of The Parade CD? I've looked on the
> net but can't find it anywhere".
Paul,
Some months ago, I purchased a copy of the Japaneese release of the
Parade CD from a purveyor of all things CD, located in Canada. The
name of the site escapes me now, though I have their email address
at work and can email it to you this Monday.
In other Sunshine Pop news, a mystery has been solved. Sometime last
winter, I posted a message to the list regarding a specific song that
I'd heard a couple of times on the radio in the late summer of 1968.
The only lyrics that I could recall from the song was the repeated
phrase: "and I knew, that you knew, that I knew--". Well wouldn't you
know it! The song is included on a recent purchase of a CD comp called
"Love and Sunshine, The Best of the Love Generation". I believe that
this group and the CD have been mentioned here over the past months.
To paraphrase the AMG bio on this group, the Love Generation embraced this
musical genre, sometimes to the extreme. As I recall from the piece on the
group, most of their material was original. though as I listened to the CD,
it was obvious that thy drew their inspiration and melodic muse from a
number of groups from this time. On one track, I heard bits of the Turtles,
The Left Banke, the Mamas and Papas and the Parade. Needless to say, by the
end of the listening session, I was floating on a happy magic mushroom cloud
and wishing that I still had my love beads, which included pieces of
eucalyptus, along with bells, vari-colored beads, interspersed with pieces
of bamboo.
Finally, with the recent passing of my first anniversary as a Spectropop
list member, I have been truly enriched by the diversity of knowledge and
various kinds of experience in the music industry that are represented by
list members, on both sides of the big pond.
As I review each Digest, I find that there is always something that captures
my attention, regardless of my knowledge, or lack of--- regarding the
particular group or artist. The recent discussions regarding the DC5, the
Hermits, Tony Wine and Gene Pitney, (to name just a few) have been
fascinating. Another recent posting identifying a link to an article about
the Shangri-las drew me to this site and I spent a great lunchtime break
reading about this dynamic group of young women. What a legacy!
The other night I listened to the Phil Spector Christmas LP which
immediately brought the Spectropop group to mind. Each track had an entirely
new significance for me, because of my link to this group and my greater
link to the artists on the record, based on the background and knowledge
that I have gained from the listserv. What the heck, I started tearing-up
when the Crystals, Santa Claus Is Coming To Town started playing.
Thanks for a great year. God's blessings to all of you and may your new
year be Spectropopfull of good music, good health and peace.
Justin McDevitt
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 13:17:36 +0000
From: Simon White
Subject: Re: The Clintons
George Clinton? Is this the guy on ABC in '74, "Please Dont Run"?
Jerry Fuller produced. The Northern Soul scene played it - I'm going
to slot it into my show today......along with requests for the D.C.
Blossoms, Ike and Tina, The Carolines and Bobby Paris........
PLUG ! PLUG !
Sunday 8th December on Soul 24-7 7pm-9pm GMT
http://www.Soul24-7.com
The Metropolitan Soul Show
2 hours of Northern Soul
This week - The Utterly Marvellous Simon White
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:38:36 -0800
From: Guy Lawrence
Subject: Re: the Clintons
Eddy Smit wrote:
> Yes. As far as I know he started off in Nashville, doing sessions
> & writing. Went to LA where his songs got recorded by a.o.
> Michael Jackson and Smokey Robinson. While still doing sessions,
> made 4 solo albums, then formed the George Clinton Band.
The Funkadelic man did work at Motown though, didn't he? At least he
hasn't been denying it when certain (G.Clinton) credits are
attributed to him. It seems to have become established as fact in
recent years that he wrote songs for (I think) the Four Tops and the
Jackson Five. There's a Clinton track on the second J5 album - who
wrote that one? I know there are a few Motown buffs out there who can
clear this up.
Regards, Guy.
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 06:15:18 -0800 (PST)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: The Clintons
Simon.....Phil......George Clinton without the S. usually identifies
the "Funkmeister"....while George S. Clinton identifies the film composer
["Mortal Combat"..."Austin Powers 1, 02 and 3"].
regards, Artie Wayne
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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 07:41:22 -0800 (PST)
From: Neb Rodgers
Subject: Cramer, Benjamin to Enter Hall of Fame
Cramer, Benjamin to Enter Hall of Fame
Pianist Floyd Cramer, drummer Benny Benjamin, saxophonist Steve Douglas
and producer Mo Ostin will be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of
Fame's class of 2003 in the Sidemen and Non-performer categories.
http://tm0.com/RSWeekly/sbct.cgi?s=419424790&i=684201&m=1&d=3575033
It's good to see deserving sidemen getting nominated to the hall of fame
as well.
-Neb
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 12:07:00 -0500
From: Javed Jafri
Subject: Re: Strawberry Jam / Jamme
Mark Frumento:
> They get seem to get grouped with a few of the other really good
> British imitators of the day like Mortimer (sometimes dead ringers
> for the Bee Gees). Another good band along these lines was Buckwheat
> who were from Texas. My favorite of US bands wanting to be the
> British was Family Tree (their LP was Miss Butters).
The Family Tree included Bob Segarini who would later go on to form the
great power pop band The Wackers and become somewhat of a power pop icon
here in Canada. The Wackers's Gary Usher produced single "I Hardly Know
Her Name" is one my favorites from the early 70's.. He was also a DJ here
in Toronto for a few years. Does anyone know what Bob is up to these days?
Javed
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Message: 17
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 09:28:58 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: Cliff hanger
Mike, Glad to hear something about Cliff on this site. Just got the
DVDs of his best known films. Been reading about these films for
years, but never saw them on tv or the videos. Anybody into the
Shadows on this site and their secret weapon, Jerry Lordan (due for
a Spectro piece)?
Flip, flop and fly, Steve Harvey
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Message: 18
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 12:57:17 EST
From: Jimmy Crescitelli
Subject: HAPPY HOLIDAYS !!
To all... the best of the season and all the good things it can bring
to you and yours, from me and mine.
Sincerely,
Jimmy Crescitelli
P.S. 700 Digests! Wow !!
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Message: 19
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 13:07:11 +0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Re: Gentryfied
Getting back to Bobbie Gentry for a mo', can anyone recommend a
reasonably comprehensive CD set on her? Besides the hit I've heard
a few other cuts by her here and there over the years, and have
always been extremely impressed by them. I think it is now time I
finally get my hands dirty with some hardcore Gentry.
--Phil M.
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Message: 20
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 11:02:10 +0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Re: P-Nut Gallery / Flying Giraffe
Jeffrey Glenn wrote:
> If "Pow Wow" is a garage version of the Howdy Doody theme, I'm guessing
> neither of these is the basis of it (these are both pure bubblegum).
It might then be another recording of the same song, as the refrain of
Wow-Wop = the title of the Flying Giraffe record (is that an A- or
B-side?). I guess there's one way to find out. I'll get it up there ASAP.
--Phil M.
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Message: 21
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 11:02:59 -0800
From: Bryan
Subject: Re: Hall of Fame / Strawberry Jam
> Pianist Floyd Cramer, drummer Benny Benjamin, saxophonist Steve Douglas
> and producer Mo Ostin will be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of
> Fame's class of 2003 in the Sidemen and Non-performer categories.
"Producer" Mo Ostin? :-)
> The Family Tree included Bob Segarini who would later go on to form the
> great power pop band The Wackers and become somewhat of a power pop icon
> here in Canada. The Wackers's Gary Usher produced single "I Hardly Know
> Her Name" is one my favorites from the early 70's.. He was also a DJ here
> in Toronto for a few years. Does anyone know what Bob is up to these days?
Segarini is a frequent poster on the Audities list
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/audities
Bryan
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Message: 22
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:55:20 -0800
From: Guy Lawrence
Subject: Re: Late 60s Anglophiles
Mark Frumento wrote:
> Maybe others can provide a list of their favorite British wannabees
> from the late 60s/70s?
The first Moon album, as included on the new Revola CD (revola.co.uk),
definitely has that Sgt. Pepper/"Bee Gees 1st" sound that was hip for
a few months of 1967. Talking of Revola, while their Hearts And
Flowers CD is released this week in the UK, their mouth-watering Marc
Eric and Forum discs look like they'll now be released on the 16th.
Nearly all of their releases have had their release dates put back a
few times. Excellent stuff though, and I see they have a new Millenium
collection coming soon.
Regards, Guy.
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Message: 23
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 20:23:41 -0000
From: Richard Tearle
Subject: Re: Cliff hanger
Hi Steve - re your question, I'm a big Shadows fan since Apache first
pounded into the charts. Saw most of the Cliff films at the cinema
too. Saw him and the Shads at Finsbury Park Astoria...Those early
Shads instrumentals are still exciting and nearly all of them were so
well named!! Hank Marvin is (IMHO) vastly underrated as a guitarist -
Shads tunes are simple enough to play (for the most part) and he did
them to perfection - but he could mix it with the very best of them
if he wanted too. Bruce was just superb as a rhythm guitar - spot on
every time. I liked Jet as the basssist best and good as Tony Meehan
was, Brian Bennett was a consummate drummer....I prefer the earlier
stuff for its rawness - when they changed to Burns guitars it was so
much smoother and lost a little bit of excitement - but thats only a
personal opinion.
Cheers, Richard
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Message: 24
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:54:48 -0800
From: Guy Lawrence
Subject: Lori Burton
Digging out the Jackson Five's ABC album to check on G. Clinton credits
got me wondering about Pam Sawyer, who wrote "2-4-6-8" - one of one of
my favourite records, and Lori Burton with whom she frequently worked
with. Anyway, I came across this fascinating Lori Burton biog:
http://beatlesundercover.cncoffice.com/sample.htm which should be of
great interest to all Specropoppers. Didn't know she made a solo album
for Mercury in '67? I bet there's someone on the group who can tell me
all about it!
Regards, Guy
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Message: 25
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 21:02:15 -0000
From: Mike Edwards
Subject: Re: Pretty Flamingo
Regarding songs by US songwriters for which there is no US original
record, Artie Wayne wrote:
> This will be an interesting subject to research. Off the top of my
> head there's Mark Barkan's "Pretty Flamingo".
I found a couple of alternate listings from 1966: one by Tommy Vann
even managed to bubble under. I have played a version by Dino, Desi &
Billy to musica. It was released in December 1966 so it was most
likely a cover of the M-Mann version, which charted as early as early
as April in the UK. DD&B's recording is the b-side of "If You're
Thinking What I'm Thinking" and probably belongs there, as it is not
as good as the Manfreds' version.
Enjoy though, Mike
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