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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Bells 'n Brummels
From: Jeff Lemlich
2. Re: Kama Sutra: The Vacels & The Boys
From: Leonardo Flores
3. Gene Pitney Tribute CD
From: Warren Cosford
4. Re: Ecology songs
From: Phil Milstein
5. Re: Ecology songs
From: Scott
6. Re: Helen Miller / Bernadette Castro
From: Jeff Lemlich
7. Re: Moon
From: Steve Harvey
8. Re: More Toni tunes + Dottie West
From: Scott
9. Jackie DeShannon
From: Bill George
10. Re: Ecology songs
From: Delia Barnard
11. Re: Jackie DeShannon
From: Phil Chapman
12. Re: Helen Miller / Howie Greenfield tunes
From: James F. Cassidy
13. Tom Fulton R.I.P.
From: Tom Taber
14. Re: Moon / David Marks
From: Eddy Smit
15. Re: Peggy Clinger/Johnny Cymbal
From: Patrick Rands
16. Re: Ecology songs
From: Nick Archer
17. Re: Ecology songs
From: Stephane Rebeschini
18. Re: Ecology songs
From: Ian Slater
19. Re: Play The Other Side update
From: Mary S.
20. Re: Gene Pitney Tribute CD
From: Ron Weekes
21. British wannabees
From: Justin McDevitt
22. Re: The Boys
From: Martin Roberts
23. Re: A Spoonful of covers.
From: Karl Baker
24. Re: Gene Pitney Tribute CD
From: Jeffrey Glenn
25. Re: A Spoonful of covers.
From: r13dodo
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 04:02:41 -0000
From: Jeff Lemlich
Subject: Re: Bells 'n Brummels
Bob Rashkow wrote:
> Bell Records' late 6Ts output before Columbia Pictures bought them
> is for me a treasure trove just waiting to be explored. Same for
> their sister labels Mala and Amy. In particular of the fantastic
> groups I've already been privileged to hear or own on 45 I
> particularly like The Lemonade Charade, the Butterscotch Caboose
> and the Balloon Corps.>
The Lemonade Charade was a Nashville band that also recorded for
Epic. Their second manager was Tony Moon, who was working with the
Orlando, Florida band We The People -- which explains how the "Charades"
came to record totally obscure compositions by We The People leaders
Wayne Proctor and Tommy Talton.
Lots of Florida bands were given a chance to record for the Amy/Bell/
Mala group of labels -- among them, the Birdwatchers from Miami,
Tommy Turner & The 13th Hour Glass from Port St. Joe/Pensacola, and
the Zig Zag Paper Company from Pensacola.
One fairly obscure Amy/Bell group, The Bleus, has now reformed and is
getting some attention back in their hometown of Gadsden, Alabama.
Their web site includes some great old photographs and memorabilia:
http://www.thebleus.com/
That's me, I'm the brother!
Jeff Lemlich
http://www.limestonerecords.com
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 01:49:05 -0000
From: Leonardo Flores
Subject: Re: Kama Sutra: The Vacels & The Boys
> I'm hoping that someone in this discussion group can help me with
> acquiring information about these two groups (The Vacels & The Boys)
> which recorded for Kama Sutra in '65>
Karl,
I guess you beat me to it, I was going to post the same message today!
I've been told that the Vacels were the same group as Ricky & The
Vacels on Express and Fargo. I've even been told the You're My Baby
by the Vacels was originally on another label before Kama Sutra but I
don't have any proof to confirm or deny that.
I'm currently trying to locate any Yellow Label Kama Sutra artists,
producers, songwriters etc. I already located Robert Dobyne and
currently interviewing the surviving members of the Goodtimes. Not
only am looking for the same info on the two groups but I would like
to Locate Eric & The Smoke Ponies, Carmen Taylor, Billy Harner, Bobby
High, Stan Vincent and of course Anders and Poncia.
Thanks for bringing up the Boys Picture Sleeve as now it's another I
have to add to the list! Where did you read that they had a pic
Sleeve on Kama Sutra?
But in an interview with Dave Kennedy, lead singer of the Goodtimes,
he states that the original copy of their first Kama Sutra Artist
"The Hard Life" was originally titled "She Makes It Hard On ME". It
was pressed up with that title and then withdrawn because it was a
suggestive title. Now try to find that one!Ug record collecting .....
it just never ends!
Now that I know the Goodtimes LP was never released does anybody have
any information if The Outrage LP on kama Sutra 8074 was ever put out?
Hopefully my article and interviews will be written by the end of the
month.
I would like to thank Jamie Jones, brother of the recently passed Tim
Jones, guitarist of the Goodtimes, for contacting me after I posted
about the Goodtimes LP on Spectropop about 1 year ago.
All My Thanks,
Leonardo
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 21:04:38 -0500
From: Warren Cosford
Subject: Gene Pitney Tribute CD
Has anyone heard of a Gene Pitney Tribute CD featuring a cut performed
by Gordon Waller of Peter and Gordon?
WC
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 21:30:38 +0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Re: Ecology songs
> Hi, I'm compiling a list of pop songs about ecology or pollution from
> the 60s/70s. Anyone have suggestions?
Speak of the devil: "Smog" by Johnny Donn is up on musica right now.
--Phil M.
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 22:54:22 EST
From: Scott
Subject: Re: Ecology songs
There's actually an album entitled "Ecology" by a band with the same name.
Scott
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 04:08:59 -0000
From: Jeff Lemlich
Subject: Re: Helen Miller / Bernadette Castro
Mike Edwards wrote:
> Two of Helen's songs by Bernadette Castro, "His Lips Get In The Way"
> (Colpix, 1964) and "A Girl In Love Forgives" (Colpix, 1965) reached
> #'s 22 and 18 on WQAM in South Florida. Both are very strong girl-
> group sounds. Both had great flips, too: "Sports Car Sally" and "Get
> Rid Of Him". The latter was also one of the very few girl-group songs
> recorded by Dionne Warwick.
Bernadette was given lots of promotion in South Florida, where she
lived in the mid 60s. It was in the best interests of both WQAM and
WFUN to play her records, considering how much advertising $$$ her
father was spending with the stations. (Bernard Castro was the
president of Castro Convertibles.) Bernadette went to school with
the late Charles Kappes, a long-time Florida radio newsman, who told
me she was a true "sports car Sally" when she was a teenager!
When she was running for the U.S. senate a few years ago, I played
her record "The Slosh" on my radio program and was talking about how
cool it would be to have a senator who knows how to dance The Slosh!
Jeff Lemlich
http://www.limestonerecords.com
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 21:02:12 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: Re: Moon
Wasn't The Moon Beach Boys DAvid Mark's later group after the Marksmen?
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 05:39:54 -0000
From: Scott
Subject: Re: More Toni tunes + Dottie West
Allan,
Thanks for your replies. Regarding Toni and Dottie West: during what
period did they write the songs together? Late 60s? 70? 71? 72? Or
later? Even an approximation will help.
By the way, please let her know I just bought the Blue Lady Petula CD
last year and love her contributions to the album. Of all her songs
that HAVE been recorded yet gone unreleased, what is her greatest
disappointment? The Ronnie Spector sessions with Chips? Un unreleased
solo album of her own perhaps?
And what is Toni's most recent song to be recorded? I mean-- what
song that she has written most recently has been recorded? Is she
still actively shopping new songs around?
Thanks again!
Scott
in Houston
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 00:50:03 EST
From: Bill George
Subject: Jackie DeShannon
I've added a song to musica. "Jimmy Baby" which was recorded by Bob
B. Soxx and the Blue Jeans (Darlene Love on lead). But this is Jackie
DeShannon's demo of the song. Her version is much rawer and rocking
that Darlene's. Truly one of her great lost performances. She has so
many great demos. Liberty didn't know what they were doing with her...
-Bill
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 10:51:04 -0000
From: Delia Barnard
Subject: Re: Ecology songs
> Hi, I'm compiling a list of pop songs about ecology or pollution from
> the 60s/70s. Anyone have suggestions?
Tom Lehrer did a song called Pollution and various others on a similar
theme....and of course Eve Of Destruction (erm....mind's gone blank...
Barry McGuire?)
x Delia x
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 11:06:06 -0000
From: Phil Chapman
Subject: Re: Jackie DeShannon
Bill George wrote:
> I've added a song to musica. "Jimmy Baby" which was recorded
> by Bob B. Soxx and the Blue Jeans (Darlene Love on lead). But
> this is Jackie DeShannon's demo of the song. Her version is
> much rawer and rocking that Darlene's. Truly one of her great
> lost performances.
Agreed, it is a great lost vocal. I equally like Darlene's gospel
-flavoured approach. Interesting to note the power of a lead vocal
to influence the overall perception of a recording: Both versions
of "Jimmy Baby" share the same backing track. Same goes for
Jackie's demo and the Bob B. Soxx version of "I Shook The World".
Phil
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 08:13:09 -0500
From: James F. Cassidy
Subject: Re: Helen Miller / Howie Greenfield tunes
Interesting that both Helen Miller and Timi Yuro were name-checked in
the last Spectropop digest; I was just listening to "The Best of Timi
Yuro," which includes "13th Hour," a Helen Miller / Howie Greenfield
tune that respectfully suggests adding another hour to the clock so
that brokenhearted folks can get their crying done in an efficient
and timely manner.
Jim Cassidy
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 06:10:07 -0800 (PST)
From: Tom Taber
Subject: Tom Fulton R.I.P.
I came up with a term that I use in my own head for such music (such
as by the Sweet, or Mud's "Tiger Feet") - I call it "Rumble Gum".
On a sadder note - AM 740 Toronto's DJ Tom "The Big Kahuna" Fulton
passed away just after completing his morning show yesterday. He was
58.
Tom Taber
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 15:18:42 +0100
From: Eddy Smit
Subject: Re: Moon / David Marks
Yes indeed. Although actually David Marks first joined Matthew Moore
Plus Four (one 45 on White Whale). They then dropped the Plus Four
(one 45 on Capitol)and then evolved into The Moon. Two albums and
three 45's, all on Imperial, is their legacy. As far as I know, after
that he only appeared on albums by Denny Brooks and Buzz Clifford.
Anybody know if he did anything after that ?
Eddy
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 14:33:16 -0000
From: Patrick Rands
Subject: Re: Peggy Clinger/Johnny Cymbal
Mick Patrick wrote:
> I can identify two of the songs on your list:
> "Mookie Mookie Man" was recorded by Cymbal and Clinger on MGM 14256
> in 1971, the other side being "Pool Shooter". The same coupling was
> also issued on Marina 502. "Ragamuffin Man" was recorded by Dallas
> on Marina 501 with "Take You Where The Music's Playing" on the b-
> side. It was also issued on> Marina 504 with "Concrete And Clay" as
> its flipside.
Well, I have gotten both the Cymbal and Clinger Mookie Mookie Man/The
Pool Shooter 45 and the Dallas Ragamuffin Man/Take You Where The
Music's Playing 45 and boy are they great. Especially the Dallas 45 -
which is basically Johnny Cymbal! Did everyone else know this except
me?
Ragamuffin Man has that Neil Diamond sound. Take You Where The
Music's Playing is a Greenwich/Barry tune which is totally killer. It
must've been the plugside, it's got hit potential written all over
it. Did anyone else record Take You Where The Music's Playing ? I'd
love to know.
:Patrick
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 05:10:12 -0600
From: Nick Archer
Subject: Re: Ecology songs
> Hi, I'm compiling a list of pop songs about ecology or pollution
> from the 60s/70s. Anyone have suggestions?
Tower of Power did a couple..."Of the Earth" from Bump City, and
"There's Only So Much Oil in the Ground".
Nick Archer
Check out Nashville's classic SM95 on the web at
http://www.live365.com/stations/nikarcher
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 13:26:03 +0100
From: Stephane Rebeschini
Subject: Re: Ecology songs
Previously:
> Hi, I'm compiling a list of pop songs about ecology or pollution from
> the 60s/70s. Anyone have suggestions?
Hi,
Some LPS with songs about ecology or pollution:
- ECOLOGY: "ENVIRONMENT/EVOLUTION" (Happy Tiger HT 1008) 1970, with Val
Stoecklein, ex Blue Things
- POLLUTION (horn rock/soul, with James Quill Smith, Dobie Gray and
Tata Vega): "POLLUTION" (Prophesy Records SD 6051) 1971, "POLLUTION II"
(Prophesy Records SD 6057) 1972
- DANNY HOLIEN (ex The Shades and Midwest): DANNY HOLIEN (Tumbleweed TWS-
102) 1971
- RARE EARTH (white soul rock, on Motown sub label): ECOLOGY (Rare Earth
RS 514) 1971
- SAGITTARIUS: THE BLUE MARBLE (Together 1002) 1969
- Jack Traylor and Steelwind (Jefferson Airplane friends): CHILD OF
NATURE (Grunt BFL1-0194) 1973
Stephane
http://octopusmusic.free.fr
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 13:43:20 -0000
From: Ian Slater
Subject: Re: Ecology songs
r13dodo:
> Hi, I'm compiling a list of pop songs about ecology or pollution from
> the 60s/70s. Anyone have suggestions?
Well, some favourites of mine, a few having been raised on this forum
recently in a different context:
Tar and Cement - by Verdelle Smith (very appropriate here in the UK at
the moment with the government proposing massive road and airport
building schemes and ignoring its own environmental advisors - oops,
sorry, shouldn't get political!)
Big Yellow Taxi by Joni Mitchell
London Calling by the Clash (not exactly Spectropop and only just 70s -
but what a record!)
Ian Slater
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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 18:06:17 -0000
From: Mary S.
Subject: Re: Play The Other Side update
Phil Milstein wrote:
> My "Play The Other Side: B's That Were Made To Be Flipped"
> compilation is progressing well. Thanks again to all who have
> contributed. I'm submitting this update primarily to reveal
> the press-stopping news that "Pow-Wow", the mastered-backwards
> flip of the 1910 Fruitgum Co.'s "Indian Giver", is a garage-pop
> version of "The Howdy Doody Theme." I realize this may sound
> like an early (or late) April Fool's joke, but it is the fact,
> Jack. If the interest is there I shall attempt to squeeze it in
> at musica.
Thanks for the info, Phil! I happen to have a copy of "Indian
Giver", so I'll have to dig it out and play the flip side. I believe
that I did play it once years ago, but I have no memory of what it
sounded like.
Mary S.
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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 12:13:11 -0700
From: Ron Weekes
Subject: Re: Gene Pitney Tribute CD
WC asks:
> Has anyone heard of a Gene Pitney Tribute CD featuring a cut performed
> by Gordon Waller of Peter and Gordon?
Jeff Glenn of The Retros (and a great member of this list) was kind
enough to get Gary Pig Gold to send me a copy of this 26 track tribute
called The Gene Pitney Story Retold. And yes, Gordon Waller does a
cover of "I'm Gonna Be Strong". Others on the comp are Randell Kirsch &
Billy Cowsill doing "It Hurts To Be In Love", Al Kooper doing "One Day"
and The Retros cover of "I'm Afraid To Go Home". I've played the disc
several times as background music. It's an enjoyable listen. I just
haven't had the time to give it a serious listen. My general feeling,
get the disc!
Ron Weekes
http://www.garyusher.com
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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 09:10:37 -0600
From: Justin McDevitt
Subject: British wannabees
Hello Spectropop,
The Knickerbockers with their late-1965 radio hit "Lies", to many
ears were compared to the Beatles in their sound and vocal style.
A great track, along with their followup, "One Track Mind".
Justin
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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 19:19:35 -0000
From: Martin Roberts
Subject: Re: The Boys
Interesting postings from Leonardo & Karl about The Boys "Splendour
In The Grass" – for those who don't know The Boys are in fact girls.
The picture sleeve (what do you guys want it for, not some dodgy
bootleg?!) shows 3 foxy chicks from the Shangs side of the street.
"Splendor In The Grass" is also sung in a similar emotive, honest and
beautiful way by the Boys/girls. The sleeve lists "You're The Boy" as
B Side but my 45's B is "Every Mornin'", wr by 'The Boys' and a
pleasant jazz/blues number. Was "You're The Boy" ever released?
Martin
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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 17:52:19 -0000
From: Karl Baker
Subject: Re: A Spoonful of covers.
Do you have Ella Fitzgerald doing "Try A Little Bit" or Lola Falana
singing "Coconut Grove"?
Karl Baker
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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 10:29:06 -0800
From: Jeffrey Glenn
Subject: Re: Gene Pitney Tribute CD
Warren Cosford:
> Has anyone heard of a Gene Pitney Tribute CD featuring a cut
> performed by Gordon Waller of Peter and Gordon?
Not only have I heard of it, but the band I'm in is on it. It's called
HE'S A REBEL: THE GENE PITNEY STORY RETOLD, and it was released earlier
this year on To M'Lou Music. It was put together by my friends Lisa
Mychols (whose LOST WINTER'S DREAM - which everybody Spectropper needs
- just came out on Rev-Ola/Cherry Red in the UK (right, Joe?:-)) and To
M'Lou co-kingpin Gary Pig Gold. For more info on the release including
a track listing go to http://www.tomlou.com/pitney.html You can hear a
sample of The Retros' (my band) version of "I Don't Want To Go Home"
from the CD at http://theretros.tripod.com/sounds.html (it's near the
bottom of the page).
And now back to our regularly scheduled programming. :-)
Jeff
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Message: 25
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 16:46:42 -0000
From: r13dodo
Subject: Re: A Spoonful of covers.
Steve Harvey wrote:
> Looking to build a CD of Lovin' Spoonful covers. Got about ten so far,
> the strangest being a tie between Pat Boone vs. the Butthole Surfers.
There's the Hondells doing Younger Girl prod. by Gary Usher, Gary Lewis
does 6 o clock on Listen!, Rick Nelson does some, Bob Darin too.
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