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Spectropop - Digest Number 703
- From: Spectropop Group
- Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002
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Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
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There are 18 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Lori Burton's BREAKOUT
From: Stuffed Animal
2. Re: favorite British sounding American band
From: Freeman Carmack
3. Re: Finding the Parade
From: Mark Frumento
4. Open the door, Richard.
From: Steve Harvey
5. Kama Sutra: The Vacels & The Boys
From: Karl Baker
6. Re: Helen Miller / the Reflections
From: Mike Edwards
7. Ecology songs
From: r13dodo
8. Re: Artie Wayne's Christmas Tree
From: Eric Charge
9. Re: Toni Wine & Helen Miller
From: Alan Warner
10. Re: Bobbie Gentry
From: Aliled
11. re: the Parade
From: Justin McDevitt
12. Re: Lori Burton
From: Marc
13. Bells 'n Brummels
From: Bob Rashkow
14. The 45 Club Sat the 14th in Hollywood
From: Leonardo Flores
15. Re: Strawberry Jam / Jamme
From: Jonathan Litchfield
16. Re: Lori Burton in Whyte Boots
From: Martin Roberts
17. A Spoonful of covers.
From: Steve Harvey
18. Re: Bobbie Gentry
From: Bill George
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 18:39:54 +0000
From: Stuffed Animal
Subject: Re: Lori Burton's BREAKOUT
Guy Lawrence:
> Digging out the Jackson Five's ABC album to check on G. Clinton credits
> got me wondering about Pam Sawyer, who wrote "2-4-6-8" - one of one of
> my favourite records, and Lori Burton with whom she frequently worked
> with. Anyway, I came across this fascinating Lori Burton biog:
> http://beatlesundercover.cncoffice.com/sample.htm which should be of
> great interest to all Specropoppers. Didn't know she made a solo album
> for Mercury in '67? I bet there's someone on the group who can tell me
> all about it!
Lori Burton's Mercury album, titled BREAKOUT! is nothing less than fabulous.
She looks like a cross between Ronnie Spector and Cher on the album
sleeve, and sounds like a cross between Janis Joplin and Timi Yuro on the
ten album tracks. Every cut was written and produced by Sawyer-Burton, and
nearly every one is a kick-ass raver; my faves are "Gotta Make You Love Me,"
"Bye Bye Charlie" and "Nightmare," which was released earlier as a single
under the name The Whyte Boots. This LP is one of the most convincing
arguments for the feminist agenda you'll ever hear . . . needless to say,
it's a MUST for all you Spectropoppers. Leroy Glover wrote the
arrangements, and do they rock!
Stuffed Animal
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 19:31:12 -0500
From: Freeman Carmack
Subject: Re: favorite British sounding American band
The Moon; either of their two albums....I thought for sure they were
English. Another American band....this time from SOUTH America,
Argentina, I believe, with a penchant for Beatlesque flourishes; We
All Together, again with convincing English accents. (Thanks to Steve
Farquhar for the exposure to both).
Great holiday season, everyone,
Freeman Carmack
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 01:03:53 -0000
From: Mark Frumento
Subject: Re: Finding the Parade
The Parade CD was around and seemingly fairly accessible for a while.
Now it seems harder to find. However, give Tower Records (URL below)
a try. Believe it or not they are one of the few regular retailers to
order this kind of material. If something is available they will get
it: http://www.towerrecords.com/product.asp?pfid=1546933&cc=USD
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 17:07:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: Open the door, Richard.
I got into the Shadows when I started to get back into guitar. The
Shadows are great music for learning guitar as their tunes a very
melodic and easy to recall when picking them out on guitar.
Met the Ventures a few years ago and asked them if they ever thought
about recording with the Shadows. Bogle said they had met Welch in
Japan once, but nothing came of it. Shame.
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 22:57:58 -0500
From: Karl Baker
Subject: Kama Sutra: The Vacels & The Boys
I'm hoping that someone in this discussion group can help me with
acquiring information about these two groups (The Vacels & The Boys)
which recorded for Kama Sutra in '65. In both cases, I'd like to know
who were the personnel in these groups. And, in the case of The Boys,
can anyone confirm that this is the same group which recorded a
single for Cameo (#351) It Ain't Fair/I Want You as well as two
singles for SVR? Also, can anyone provide me with a scan of the
picture sleeve which accompanied a limited number of copies of their
Kama Sutra 45, Splendor In The Grass? Any information will be much
appreciated.
Karl Baker
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 04:31:51 -0000
From: Mike Edwards
Subject: Re: Helen Miller / the Reflections
Mick Patrick writes:
> It seems to me that Helen Miller is one of the most woefully
> under-appreciated figures of the 1960s Brill Building scene."
Not sure I would go that far, but Helen Miller is definitely
interesting and any 45 with her name on the label belongs in our
collections. Mick listed some of the titles that she co-wrote with
Howard Greenfield (most of them), Roger Atkins and Tony Powers.
Two of Helen's songs by Bernadette Castro, "His Lips Get In The Way"
(Colpix, 1964) and "A Girl In Love Forgives" (Colpix, 1965) reached
#'s 22 and 18 on WQAM in South Florida. Both are very strong girl-
group sounds. Both had great flips, too: "Sports Car Sally" and "Get
Rid Of Him". The latter was also one of the very few girl-group songs
recorded by Dionne Warwick.
Helen also wrote a couple that I know of with another S'pop heroine,
Pam Sawyer. Pam, you may recall, co-wrote "I Ain't Gonna Eat My Heart
Out Anymore" for the Young Rascals, which was the subject of a
furious debate here on S'pop as to what position it reached in the US
charts. The Spring 1976 edition of Bomp magazine featured a Pam
Sawyer songography, which lists at least two titles she wrote with
Helen Miller: "I Wore Out Our Record" by Dodie Stevens and "You're My
Baby" by the Vacels. The latter as Kama Sutra 200 was the first 45 on
that label. I don't think it was the original version, though, an
honor that belongs to the Reflections (Golden World 19). We were
going nuts over this group a few weeks' ago. The label shows:
Wr: Steve Venet-Pam Sawyer-Helen Miller
Pr: Steve Venet- Helen Miller
Ar: Charlie Callelo.
Wow, this is the business, isn't it? Mick says of Helen: "she was
also a rather good producer". If this Reflections' 45 is anything to
go by, she was very very good. Gary Sherman and Artie Ripp (thank-
you, St Etienne) did the work on the Vacels' version but the
Reflections' blows the doors off it.
So there you have a number of threads, now let's enjoy this great
record as it is up on musica and what a pleasure it was to play it
there for you. Crank it!
Mike Edwards
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 04:39:03 -0000
From: r13dodo
Subject: Ecology songs
Hi, I'm compiling a list of pop songs about ecology or pollution from
the 60s/70s. Anyone have suggestions?
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 05:43:02 -0000
From: Eric Charge
Subject: Re: Artie Wayne's Christmas Tree
Hi Artie, Thank you for the Motown Christmas story! You answered
several questions in one go. I put my Christmas tree up yesterday,
to the sounds of your wonderful song.
Have a cool yule, Eric
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 04:51:45 -0800
From: Alan Warner
Subject: Re: Toni Wine & Helen Miller
Can't remember if I replied to Mick's message back in April but Brill
Building documentary producer Morgan Neville did indeed interview
Helen Miller for the show but it was one of a number of contributions
that unfortunately didn't make the final cut of the show.
In addition to Mick's fine list of outstanding HM songs, I'd add: CHARMS
(written w/Howard Greenfield): a Bobby Vee hit here in '63 RUMORS (again
with HG): Johnny Crawford's second 1962 hit after his breakthrough
smash "Cindy's Birthday".
Alan Warner
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 11:11:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Aliled
Subject: Re: Bobbie Gentry
> Getting back to Bobbie Gentry for a mo', can anyone
> recommend a reasonably comprehensive CD set on her?
Phil - I'd highly recommend "Ode To Bobbie Gentry", which is on some UK
major label subsidiary. Good sound, great selection of tracks and
liner notes (I think) from one of the St Etienne guys. You can get it
through http://www.amazon.co.uk pretty cheaply. I did compare it to all
the other Gentry CDs out there and it's clearly the best.
aliled
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 08:33:09 -0600
From: Justin McDevitt
Subject: re: the Parade
Smokey Roberds wrote:
> Justin, Just saw your response to Paul about locating a copy of The
> Parade CD! I would also like to find a copy and would appreciate you
> forwarding the information to me".
To Smokey and Paul, the site from which I purchased the parade import is:
http://www.musicselection.com
I hope that you can find a copy. There was also a link to another site
posted to Spectropop in the last day or so.
Justin
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 15:21:58 -0500
From: Marc
Subject: Re: Lori Burton
Phil Milstein:
> I want to like (Lori Burton's) album more than I actually do. I believe
> it is a collection of songwriting demos, which would explain both its
> stylistic eclecticism and its underproduction. Pretty cool cover,
> though -- talk about your panda-bear eye makeup!
I feel the same way, except I LOVE "Gonna Make You Love Me" - shoulda been
a hit single!
Marc
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 16:54:45 -0500
From: Bob Rashkow
Subject: Bells 'n Brummels
Bell Records' late 6Ts output before Columbia Pictures bought them is
for me a treasure trove just waiting to be explored. Same for their
sister labels Mala and Amy. In particular of the fantastic groups I've
already been privileged to hear or own on 45 I particularly like The
Lemonade Charade, the Butterscotch Caboose and the Balloon Corps, whose
Bell entry is "Up In Smoke" (1969?) which I guess you could categorize
as "Hard rock power pop"!!! I think there's hundreds more artist
hopefuls who contributed their pop, folk and rock talents to Bell during
that time. Both Jeff Glenn and Jeff Lemlich are no doubt familiar with
many more of them!
British wannabes? One of my favorites were the Beau Brummels out of S.F.
Long before I found out that Autumn was an American label I was so sure
that Sal Valentino and the gang were Brits! Excuse me, time to give
"Just A Little" another spin...
Bobster
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 23:30:55 -0000
From: Leonardo Flores
Subject: The 45 Club Sat the 14th in Hollywood
Here it is Soul Fans!
We are pleased to announce on Saturday December 14th, Southern
California's own The 45 Club will have its 8th soulful installment
at the Knitting Factory in Hollywood California.
Here's what we have in store for you on Saturday:
Our Guest DJ this month will be DJ Rena La Reine. A long time 60's
music collector/DJ, the14th will mark her first U.S. DJ appearance
in over two years. Having lived in England for those two years,
she's brought back a set of records that are just nothing short of
brilliant.
The 45 Club and Universal/UTV Records CD giveaway this month is the
all new "Stevie Wonder: The Definitive Collection". This 21 song
collection spans his entire career from his first explosive R&B
hit "Fingertips (part2) " at the age of 13 to his classic Motown
recordings of "I Was Made to Love Her" and "My Cherie Amour". This CD
just doesn't stop there, Stevie Wonder's ultra cool funk 70's
hits "Superstition", "Higher Ground" and "Sir Duke" as well as
Stevie's experimental seven minute suite "Living in the City" are
also included in this collection. This collection also includes an
absolute amazing full color booklet of not often seen promo photos
and new liners notes written by 60's Detroit DJ Scott Regan. All you
have to do is come up to the DJ booth and ask for "Stevie Wonder:
The Definitive Collection" and it's yours. That's it! Only from
Universal/UTV Records and The 45 Club.
So what about New Years Eve? The 45 Club will be hosting the
Knitting Factory's New Years Eve Bash. Two rooms will be available
for the evening, The 45 Club's classic Northern Soul/Motown/Girl
group floor and The 60's/70's Garage/Beat room. Guest DJ's and other
information to be announced next week.
Remember The 45 Club is one of the few all vinyl dance club events in
town. You never know what great but unknown 6T's Soul 45 might pop up
between sets and songs.
Looking forward to meeting up with all of you next Saturday, and
thanks for making The 45 Club a great experience.
Cheers,
The 45 Club
Saturday, December 14th
www.the45club.com
@ The Knitting Factory
7021 Hollywood Blvd
DJ's Aston Martini
Uplandmod
Soul Bags Justin (MIA)
And special guest DJ
Rena La Reine
18+ Full Bar w/ID-Drink Specials
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 23:35:23 -0000
From: Jonathan Litchfield
Subject: Re: Strawberry Jam / Jamme
Further to what others have written, a single was released from the
Jamme LP (which itself was also released in Australia on Stateside,
SOSL-10082), 'Poor Widow' b/w 'She Sits There' (Dunhill, D-4231).
In addition to brothers Don and Keith Adey, other musicians on the
album (according to the sleeve) were Larry Knechtel and Jim Gordon.
The only significant web reference I have come across is a mini-biog
at the Fuzz Acid & Flowers site, from which this delightful snippet
is taken: Terry Rae: "Originally known as Strawberry Jam, the band
started to fall apart after John found Michelle, Mia Farrow and
myself under a table (high as kites.)"
http://www.borderlinebooks.com/us6070s/fuzz.html
Jonathan L
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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 23:17:52 -0000
From: Martin Roberts
Subject: Re: Lori Burton in Whyte Boots
Thanks to Guy for supplying the Lori Burton link. You're right, it's
fascinating. Ken Barnes (again!) in Bomp's Gala Girl Issue, spring
'76 wrote the best page, so far, on Lori Burton and Pam Sawyer.
Including a 'songography' of the pair, which at the time, nearly 30
years ago, was very revealing. Including artists such as the Royal
Guardsmen, Lazy Susans, O'Jays, Candy/Kisses, Cindy Malone, Patti
Labelle and of course Young Rascals, among others.
Regarding Lori's LP Breakout, I haven't played it in a while but the
'major' track is one of the most over the top Shangs cops, "Nightmare".
This is the self same recording released as a 45 on Philips by 'The
Whyte Boots' some months previous.
Martin
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 20:59:39 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: A Spoonful of covers.
Looking to build a CD of Lovin' Spoonful covers. Got about ten so far,
the strangest being a tie between Pat Boone vs. the Butthole Surfers.
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Flip, flop and fly,
Steve Harvey
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 00:48:14 EST
From: Bill George
Subject: Re: Bobbie Gentry
Phil Milstein writes:
> Getting back to Bobbie Gentry for a mo', can anyone recommend a
> reasonably comprehensive CD set on her?
Reasonably comprehensive is what you will have to settle for. The one
I'd recommend is the UK comp, "Ode to Bobbie Gentry". I redommend it
because it has most of her best songs, along with some that should have
been left off, as well as some unreleased tracks; the sound is good;
and maybe most important: it's still in print. There is another CD that
couples her debut LP with the Glen Campbell duet LP. Another that has
her entire first LP with some tracks from successive albums. I like the
early (first?) CD anthology put out on Curb. It doesn't have as many
tracks, but includes some really good ones that are left off the other
comps. Raven has just released one, but it doesn't have much you can't
find on the others, and from what I've read the sound quality is sub-par.
But really, you can't go wrong with any of 'em. I just wish they'd
release "The Delta Sweete" on CD. That's her masterpiece.
-Bill
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