________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ Jamie LePage (1953-2002) http://www.spectropop.com/Jamie.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 10 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. The Foxes From: John S. Weathers 2. Re: Ron Dante/"In the Rain" From: Laura Pinto 3. Re: Where The Action Is From: Billy Spradlin 4. Shangri-Las=Bon-Bons=Beatlettes From: Andres Jurak 5. Round Robin From: Guy Lawrence 6. Where the Action Is From: Larry Lapka 7. "Yellow Van" on eBay From: Laura Pinto 8. Brian Wilson , a genuine Smile From: Stratton Bearhart 9. Re: Tony Hatch in New York From: Mick Patrick 10. The Liquid Room 3/24/03 From: David Ponak -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 1 Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 20:29:12 -0500 From: John S. Weathers Subject: The Foxes Does anyone have any information on The Foxes? They released a girl group 45 on the Titanic label #101. I am curious as to the date of release and group info. I would guess 1962 or 1963, but cannot find this documented anywhere. Thanks, John -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 02:20:51 -0000 From: Laura Pinto Subject: Re: Ron Dante/"In the Rain" Mick Patrick wrote: > Thanks for the quote from Ron about the session. Could you > ask him if he can remember who the backing singers were please. > I'd also like to know who sang the original demo version. And > which came first, "Leader Of The Laundromat" or "In The Rain"? Hi again, Here's what Ron recalls about "In the Rain": "The backgound singers on that song were Lesley Miller and Jean Thomas. 'In The Rain' came out before my Detergents records as I remember." And there you have it, from the Prince of Bubblegum and the Princess of Pineapple! Laura P.S. Thanks for the flip side. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 05:26:58 -0000 From: Billy Spradlin Subject: Re: Where The Action Is About 3 years ago I visited Grapevine Mills - a huge mall in Grapevine TX that had one of Dick Clark's American Bandstand restaurants. On TVs around the resturaunt they showed old clips of Bandstand from the late 50s to the late 70s. Most of the old 50s and 60s shows weren't recorded on videotape but were from film kinescopes. Most of the film transfers weren't that great - muddy sound and some had faded badly. My guess why there isn't a Bandstand/ Action DVD series is that it would take a LOT of money to restore these kinescopes to good quality. Also the hassle - music licensing from record companies and publishers, getting permission to use performances, etc. I guess it's not worth Dick's time! Still I strongly feel it's his main legacy to American TV history (and not the $1,000,000 Pyramid and blooper shows) and his company needs to restore this footage for future generations. Billy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 10:08:05 -0000 From: Andres Jurak Subject: Shangri-Las=Bon-Bons=Beatlettes This possible/rumored Shangs involvement is an interesting thing. As for The Bon Bons, it's pretty much clear now: there were two different groups under the same name, one from the 50s (with singles like "That's The Way Love Goes"/"Make My Dreams Come True" (LONDON 45-1569); and "Precious Love" London 1643), and one from mid 60s (as mentioned, their photo is in the Miscellaneous folder of the Photo section) with songs like "What's Wrong With Ringo". Both of these have no relation to the Shangri-Las, as far as I can understand. (The question still remains though, why this strange rumor ever existed? I read about it in different books, to say nothing of numerous websites... Mystery...) Now let's go to The Beatlettes. Here the things are not so clear. I've found out that, as in the Bon Bons' case, there were (maybe!) two groups with (almost) the same name: firstly, Les Beatlettes from Vancouver, Canada, and secondly, The Beattle-ettes from New York (different spelling of the name). How did I reach this conclusion? I read somewhere on the web: "The Beattle-ettes - Only 17 (1964 Jubilee 45 # 5472): A one-off recording venture for this optimistically-named all girl garage band. New York was their home and their garage response to the Beatles invasion was produced by the legendary Shadow Morton (aka Shadow Mann)" You can also check this link: http://www.metsisboots.com/B_BetterThan_1b.jpg On the right there is a pic of that single ('Only 17'), where George Morton's name is clearly seen. I doubt that Morton would produce somebody who was living in Canada at that time. So, if these two Beatlettes are different groups why cannot we assume that there WAS some possible Shangs involvement regarding the American Beattle-ettes of course? At least `Only 17' sounds quite Shangri-Lesque. Andres -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 12:25:23 -0000 From: Guy Lawrence Subject: Round Robin I'd like to thank everyone who responded, both on and off-list, to my appeal for information on Round Robin, especially those kind Spectropoppers who sent me music. Seems I've got a little bit more record hunting to do but I suppose that's all part of the thrill! In the meantime, I'm still eager for any (off-list) information, pictures, memories etc., of the man who played Esquerita to Chubby Checker's Little Richard (if you know what I mean!) and am happy to exchange CDRs with anyone who feels they need a bit of Slauson in their life. Thanks again, Guy. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 13:15:45 -0000 From: Larry Lapka Subject: Where the Action Is To Mary S.: I think Mikey explained the reason for the lack of WTAI releases perfectly--although I do believe that Dick Clark is holding off on them for a variety of reasons. I mean, there were over 400 episodes of WTAI--does Clark have absolutely none of these in his possession? I am sure he is holding out for the almighty dollar. Funny, people with the last name of Clark kind of think alike. Look at the situation with Dave Clark and his recordings--it's 100 percent money related, with how much he would make off the recordings versus how much he would have to pay out to other band members, other musicians used on the tracks, etc. I think for now, as far as WTAI is concerned, we will have to stick with the boots, which really aren't that horrid to watch. I am hoping that perhaps Mark Lindsay, who I hear will be compiling and releasing his audio archives over the next few years, perhaps has some pull with Clark over video material. We'll see. Larry Lapka -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 18:58:57 -0000 From: Laura Pinto Subject: "Yellow Van" on eBay Hi everyone. A copy of "Yellow Van" b/w "Love Will Never Hurt You" by Ronnie (Ron Dante) and the Dirtriders is up for bids on eBay. Just wanted to let you know since this song was discussed in previous threads. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2518833039&category=20813 Thanks, Laura -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 19:26:30 -0000 From: Stratton Bearhart Subject: Brian Wilson , a genuine Smile Phil Milstein's comment about our participation being one of "sitting back and basking in the pure loveliness of the sounds" captures perfectly the experience of listening to Brian and his band. But obviously not for those who prefer to stay at home and play the originals. End of story. Kingsley Abbott expressed an interest in seeing "what was included in the musical fare we are served" and went on to intimate that this was Jeff Foskett's responsibility. I was musing on the discrepancy between the mythology of SMiLe, i.e. that it's yet unheard over the plethora of bootleg material that purports to be SMiLe. How much of what we hear will be a rehash of what we already know against unknown material. And how much of what we hear will be a faithful remake of Brian 1966-67 as the young master painter as opposed to 2003 make over by Foskett and co, however well meant that might be? Rio Grande revisited? Stratton Bearhart -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 20:08:50 -0000 From: Mick Patrick Subject: Re: Tony Hatch in New York Artie Wayne wrote: > Mick........I've really been enjoying your Tony Hatch > exchanges. I've always considered him one of the ultimate > songwriter/producers. Even though I know he's English, I > think "Downtown" is as much of a "New York Anthem" as > "On Broadway"!!! Would you ask Tony which of Petula's hits > [if any] were cut in New York? Hi Artie, I'll forward your question to Tony. In the meantime, I can partially answer it myself. Quite a few of Petula's hits were cut in New York. In fact, the whole of her "My Love" LP of 1966 was a product of the Big Apple. It's probably Pet's best album, containing brilliant tracks like "Hold On To What You've Got", "The Life And Soul Of The Party", "Just Say Goodbye", "Where Did We Go Wrong" and "A Sign Of The Times". I have already exchanged a few communications with Tony on the subject of his USA sessions. Here's some of what he told me: > Recording sessions in the USA were also a wonderful experience > for me and it was a thrill to work with some of the finest > musicians in New York and Los Angeles. We even recorded a live > album at the Copacabana although Pet never really liked the sound. > "Colour my world" was recorded in New York with a sitar player > who insisted on meditating before working with the orchestra. > This he did for 3 hours which meant the session was finished > before he agreed to overdub his part. In Los Angeles I was > installed with a Grand Piano in a bungalow at the Beverly Hills > Hotel and wrote the scores for "My Love" and an entire album > which was recorded at Western Recorders. Ray Prickett came with > me. Because of union and employment rules I wasn't officially > allowed to conduct and Ray wasn't officially allowed to operate > the mixing desk. I hired a conductor who quite happily let me > rehearse each 'chart' until he took over when I disappeared into > the control room where Ray would be doing the balance assisted > by the studio's resident engineer. Sitarists? Who'd have 'em?! MICK PATRICK -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 12:11:36 -0500 From: David Ponak Subject: The Liquid Room 3/24/03 The Liquid Room, (usually) hosted by David Ponak (me), airs every Saturday night from Midnight to 3AM (PDT) on 90.7FM KPFK Los Angeles, as well as streaming at http://kpfk.org. The Liquid Room 03/24/2003 1.The Assocation/Requiem For The Masses Insight Out (WB) 2.The Wondermints/On The Run Mind If We Make Love To You (Smile) 3.T Rex/Cosmic Dancer Electric Warrior (Reprise/Rhino) 4.Sketch Show/Chronograph (Cornelius Remix) Tronika (Daisy World-Japan) 5.Seksu Roba/The Night Is Mine Pleasure Vibrations (Eenie Meenie) 6. The 88/How Good It Can Be Kind Of Light (EMK) 7. James Brown/Get Up, Get Into It And Get Involved Star Time (Polydor) 8.Kim Fox/Something Just As Good Return To Planet Earth (Franklin Castle) 9.Erlend Oye/Sudden Rush Unrest (Astralwerks) 10.John Sebastion/I Had A Dream John Sebastion (Reprise) 11.John Barry/The Ipcress File Lounge Legends (Universal-Japan) 12.The Isley Brothers/Ohio/Machine Gun Givin' It Back (Sony) 13.Alpinestars/NuSEX City White Noise (Astralwerks) 14.DJ Shadow/Mashin' On The Motorway The Private Press (MCA) 15.Maya Angelou/Stone Cold Dead In The Market Miss Calypso (Rev-Ola-UK) 16.Robert Mitchum/From A Logical Point Of View Calypso-Is Like So (Rev-Ola-UK) 17.Kahimi Karie/About The Girls Trapeziste (Victor-Japan) 18. The Beatniks/Une Femme N'est Pas Un Homme (Aphex Twin Mix) Aphex Twin: 26 Mixes For Cash (Warp) 19. Donna Summers/Down, Deep Inside John Barry: Lounge Legends (Universal-Germany) 20.Elvis Costello And The Attractions/Oliver's Army Armed Forces (Rhino) 21.The Love Generation/Magic Land Let The Good Times In: The Best Of The Love Generation (Rev-ola-UK) 22.A Band Of Bees/Zia Sunshine Hit Me (Astralwerks) 23.Martin Denny/Simba The Exotic Sounds Of Martin Denny (Rev-ola-UK) 24.Pet Shop Boys/London (Genuine Piano Mix) Disco 3 (Santuary) 25.Jacques Dutronc/L'Amour Est Le Moteur Du Monde Jacques Dutronc (Vogue-France) 26.Conrad Black/Greyscale For Slow Building Miss Kitten: Radio Caroline Volume 1 (Emperor Norton) 27.Daniele Luppi/Fashion Party An Italian Story 28.Blur/Sweet Song Think Tank (Virgin) 29.Andrew/Till I Met You Happily Ever After (Vibro-phonic) 30.Puffy/Tokyo Nights Nice (Sony Music-Japan) 31.The Aluminum Group/Be Killed Happyness (Wishing Tree) 32.The Coral/Goodbye The Coral (Epic) 33.Elektel/Better Sound For Better Kindness Space Travel With Teddy Bear (Sucre-Japan) 34.The Karminsky Experience/The Wayward Camel The Power Of Suggestion (POB-UK) 35.The 5th Dimension/The Magic Garden The Magic Garden (Buddha) 36.Phaser/Sweet Marie Sway (Emperor Norton) 37.Mouse On Mars/Bib Rost Pocks: The EP Collection (Too Pure) 38.Fela Kuti/Sorrow Tears & Blood The Best Best Of (MCA) 39.Lovage/Anger Management Music To Make Love To Your Old Lady By-Instrumental Version (75 Ark) 40.DJ Me DJ You/Understanding Music Can You See The Music (Eenie Meenie) 41.Paul Williams/Mornin' I'll Be Movin On Someday Man -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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