________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ Jamie LePage (1953-2002) http://www.spectropop.com/Jamie.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 14 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Art Wayne acetate From: Jeffrey Glenn 2. Re: The one and only Lesley From: James Botticelli 3. Re: Lee Diamond & the Cherokees From: Alan V. Karr 4. Terri Nelson Group on Kama Sutra From: Louis 5. Re: Song Search From: Richard Havers 6. Re: Fifth Estate / Carol Connors From: Martin Roberts 7. Re: Stolen Licks From: Jeffrey Glenn 8. Re: Lesley Gore - life story From: James Botticelli 9. Re: Stolen Licks From: John Fox 10. Stolen Licks From: James Cassidy 11. Song search: Gale's Prism From: Steve Harvey 12. The one and only Lez-lee From: Steve Harvey 13. Re: Fifth Estate From: Clark Besch 14. Re: Art Wayne acetate From: Clark Besch -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 1 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 05:49:46 -0700 From: Jeffrey Glenn Subject: Art Wayne acetate I picked up a one-sided acetate last weekend at the Pasadena (CA.) record swap. The track is "Open Up Your Heart" with no artist listed; "Tattersail Music" has also been typed on the label, so I'm guessing this is probably a publishing demo. Also, it's an Associated Recording Studios acetate (just like the Ike & Tina Turner One Shown at http://www.spectropop.com/gg/underthesun.html), so that puts it in New York. Checking the title through BMI revealed that the song, published by "Tattersall Music," was written by Ben Bleiman and our own Art Wayne! Further researched led to the Fuzz, Acid and Flowers site and a song of this name by the U.S. Males. Here's what that site says about that song: "Previously known as The Coastliners, this Houston outfit carried on in the same mould as purveyors of bright-eyed pop-punk, of which Open Up Your Heart is a decent example." This is a pretty good description of what's on this acetate (you could also say it's hard-edged bubblegum), so could this be the group featured here (by the way, The Coastliners' stuff is wonderful too, ranging from great uptempo frat/Mersey rockers to beautiful harmony pop)? The only thing against this is that The Coastliners/U.S. Males were based in Houston. Art, I've played the track to musica in the hopes that you can tell us all about it (for all I know it could be you, but matching it to "Automated Man" it doesn't sound like you). Plus, it's just a really cool record! Enjoy it! Jeff -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 2 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 22:55:11 -0400 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: The one and only Lesley Artie Wayne wrote: > ....I'm glad you guys have brought Lesley Gore back into > the spotlight! My partner [at the time] Kelli Ross and I > represented her publishing companies until 1969. She and > Ellen Weston....knocked me out with some of things they > had written. Steve Harvey: > So Artie, how'd you like her medley with "98.6" in it? > You sang on the original, so it must have been cool to > hear somebody (and a fairly well-known somebody) do a > cover of a tune you were on. Is that the Bob Crewe LP with California Nights on it. Great album, pop nirvana if you will (even if you won't). Lez-Lee wrote a couple of great tunes on that LP. Sorry to not be more definitive...only remembering the Mercury label and a couple-a credits, including our demi-god, Bob Crewe. -- James Botticelli -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 3 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 03:41:17 -0000 From: Alan V. Karr Subject: Re: Lee Diamond & the Cherokees Ron Bowdery wrote: > I read that singles by Lee Diamond & the Cherokees were > featured on a CD entitled "Teenage Jamboree." I am keen to > obtain this CD. I played on this single in 1961. I will be > happy to give any background information to this record Ron, Although Garry ("Look For A Star") Mills charted with Tepper-Bennett's I'll Step Down (Decca F 11358) in the UK , and Judy Stone turned in a hit Connie Francis-styled arrangement on Festival in Australia, I'd give your group's Holly-ish version the nod as the best of these by far (UK Fontana H 310) although as Lisa Boffa notes in her great (unauthorized) Buddy Holly web site that the song conveys a somewhat un-Buddyish lack of determination! The B, "Josephine" is on the (German?) boot UK Teenage Jamboree (Farmer FR 1003) and "I'll Step Down" is on the Vol. 2 (Farmer FR 1009) - neither the A or the B of your followup, (credited only to "Lee Diamond"?) "Stop your crying/You'll want me" (Fontana H 345, 1961) are on these discs. However, "I'll Step Down" has seen a legitimate reissue in EMI's British Beat Before The Beatles CD series (Volume Six-1961, EMI 7 89225 2, 1993) so maybe you entitled to a royalty of some kind. I, like many others here would love to hear your story. Regards, Alan V. Karr -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 4 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 06:20:42 -0000 From: Louis Subject: Terri Nelson Group on Kama Sutra Does anyone know any background on the Terri Nelson Group on Kama Sutra Records? -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 5 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 08:56:17 +0100 From: Richard Havers Subject: Re: Song Search I asked: > Someone on another group I subscribe to wanted to know the > title and artist who recorded a song with the words, "reds > and yellows, blues and greens" and "police going to take my > mama away." Apparently it was bluesy and it was mid 60s. Bob Beason answered: > It was Gale Garnett, "Prism Song." Flip side of "We'll Sing > In The Sunshine," RCA Victor 47-8388, 1964 Thanks, Bob. I've passed your knowledge along. Best Richard -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 6 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 10:58:06 +0100 From: Martin Roberts Subject: Re: Fifth Estate / Carol Connors David Coyle wrote: > Wasn't "It's Waiting There For You" written by one of the Fifth Estate? > There's a demo of a song by that name on their "Ding Dong The Witch Is > Back" CD on the Boston Skyline label. Yes, Wayne Wadhams, the group leader and his partner Don Askew, lyricist. I recommend the CD, not sure if it's still available but 28 tracks and wonderful 34 page booklet with all you need to know about The "D" Men/Fifth Estate. Wayne and Don don't seem to enamoured with their time spent under the 'guidance' of the Jerome Brothers (who also produced The Furnacemen's version) and take most of the credit for their biggest hit - the perfect mother-in-law funeral song - "Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead". Either way their collaboration with the Jeromes did produce some splendid recordings. Ian (beside Fifth Estate chat) wrote: > I wonder if (Carol Connors') sister Cheryl made any more records other than > the "Go Go GTO" duet and its flip? In Volume One of Stephen J McParlands indispensable 2 volume set "Sound Waves And Traction-Surf and Hot-Rod Studio Groups Of The '60s" he includes a discography and interview with Carol in which she reveals Cheryl was brought in to sing with Carol as The Surfettes and with Steve Barri as The Story Tellers on Ramarca/Dimension. Stephen's is the definite article (so far) but I was disappointed to see the 'omission' of the Rip Chords "Red Hot Roadster". A super track I'd assumed was penned by Carol (no writer credits on the LP) but a check of the B.M.I. database revels the writers to be Terry Melcher and Roger Christian. Perhaps Country Paul could check with Carol? The Carol Connors chat neatly brings up a favour I'd like to ask, I'm compiling a CDR and with the help of friends need three tracks to complete it: The Sunshine Company "Wingate Square" Imperial The Story Tellers "I Don't Want An Angel"/Down In The Valley" Capitol If any Spectroppers could mp3 a copy of these tracks, a prize awaits! Martin -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 7 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 06:44:40 -0700 From: Jeffrey Glenn Subject: Re: Stolen Licks Artie Wayne: > J B...... Let's not forget the intro to "My Guy" by Mary Wells > is "Canadian Sunset." regards, Artie Wayne The intro to the acetate of "Open Up Your Heart" I just played to musica nicks the opening riff from Bobby Goldsboro's "Little Things." :-) Jeff -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 8 Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 22:51:37 -0400 From: James Botticelli Subject: Re: Lesley Gore - life story Mikey wrote: > Yea, they'd have to do SOME make-up job - Patty Duke is 60, > I believe. so's Lez-Lee bro'~! -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 9 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 11:17:49 EDT From: John Fox Subject: Re: Stolen Licks Re Stolen Licks: A clear rip-off is "Selfish One" by Jackie Ross (1964), whose intro steals the lick from "Tenderly". John Fox -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 10 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 10:36:37 -0400 From: James Cassidy Subject: Stolen Licks The stolen licks department covers a lot of territory, from the blatant copies (Steve Miller ripping off Free's "All Right Now" guitar riff for "Rock'n Me" springs to mind) to more subtle things, like the way the strings in "Under the Boardwalk" play the four-note riff from "Up On the Roof" just before the last chorus. Jim Cassidy -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 11 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 10:18:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Harvey Subject: Song search: Gale's Prism Oddly enough I picked up Gale Garnett's Cd two weeks ago for $2. Played "Prism Song" which is not the song that everybody (including yours truly) thought it was. It has a line that is similar to the kids' song, but that's the only connection. Gale's tune is actually about a domestic dispute that leaves the little girl with only her prism, no parents. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 12 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 10:24:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Harvey Subject: The one and only Lez-lee DJ Jimmy Bee: > Is that the Bob Crewe LP with California Nights on it. Great > album, pop nirvana if you will (even if you won't). Lez-Lee > wrote a couple of great tunes on that LP. Sorry to not be more > definitive...only remembering the Mercury label and a couple-a > credits, including our demi-god, Bob Crewe. James, I don't know the album, but it was a medley on a single with Lazy Day (the Spanky & Our Gang to tune). "Lez-Lee" indeed, Mr. Botticelli! Been watching "Grace of My Heart" again? Is it true that Lesley Gore has the lead in "The Gillian Anderson Story"? It's a musical. -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 13 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 18:20:43 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Re: Fifth Estate Bob Rashkow wrote: > THANK YOU DAVID COYLE!!! I recently inquired on Pop45 about > a Fifth Estate CD and you have ANSWERED my question here on > S'pop. I'm going to check out Boston Skyline to see if > they've got a website, because "Ding Dong, The Witch Is Back" > (sounds like a reunion with my 4th-grade teacher) is for me a > MUST-HAVE!!!! Can anyone recommend it? Are "Do Drop Inn", > "The Goofin' Song" and "Morning Morning" on there? Bobster, not sure which Cd David referred you to, but there is a nice one with some 30 tracks out there that I think the Fifth Estate put out themselves. It includes big booklet, about 30 songs with many demos. Even includes Murray the K playing the D-Men 45 on his radio show in 1964! However, having given props there, there will be a new Cd of this stuff coming in the next year with superior sound, so you can decide. Take care, Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
Message: 14 Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 19:08:19 -0000 From: Clark Besch Subject: Re: Art Wayne acetate Jeffrey Glenn wrote: > I picked up a one-sided acetate last weekend at the Pasadena (CA.) > record swap. The track is "Open Up Your Heart" with no artist listed. Jeff, your acetate is definitely the US Males' song, but not their version of it. US Males version was more polished than yours is as I remember it. Great record and flip "Come Out of the Rain" is even better! "Rain" is a Mike Rabon (5 Americans) tune, which makes sense since their label was a subsidiary of Abnak, the 5 Americans label. Hopefully, Sundazed will do an Abnak Cd with various hits like this on it, since they own all the Abnak tapes now. Clark -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------
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