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There are 21 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Miss Toni Fisher "Big Hurt" LP
From: Harkit Records
2. The Pips sans Gladys?
From: Dan Hughes
3. Re: Jackie on Rhino
From: Artie Wayne
4. Spectropop NY party
From: Sheila B
5. Re: Midnight Mary
From: Artie Wayne
6. Re: Reparata
From: Mikey
7. Re: Midnight Mary
From: Mikey
8. Re: The Pips sans Gladys?
From: Simon White
9. Ray Dahrouge
From: Simon White
10. Re: Whatnauts
From: Mike Rashkow
11. Re: The Pips sans Gladys?
From: Tom Taber
12. Re: Archies videos on Ron Dante Online
From: Laura Pinto
13. Re: Mikey's pomp
From: Amber
14. Re: The Pips sans Gladys?
From: Ali ?
15. Re: Party
From: Mikey
16. Re: Reparata
From: Tony Leong
17. Party info; "Lost 60's"; "Tenement"; Robert DiLeo mp3s
From: Country Paul
18. Re: Reparata
From: Ray
19. Re: Spectropop NY party
From: Peter Lerner
20. Re: First Post
From: Steve Harvey
21. Jack Nitzsche At Update
From: Martin Roberts
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 08:05:53 -0000
From: Harkit Records
Subject: Miss Toni Fisher "Big Hurt" LP
Hello. I am MD at Harkit Records. We are interested in reissuing
the "Big Hurt" Lp by Toni Fisher. Does anyone know who owns the copyright
of the original Signet recordings. I do have a copy of this album in near
mint condition with an interesting paste-on note for DJs about it
being stereo. Thanks!
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 07:02:15 -0500
From: Dan Hughes
Subject: The Pips sans Gladys?
The talk of a Slyless Family Stone reunion pulled forth a dim memory....
Musta' been in the 70's, some national TV show....featuring thePips as
guest stars. The curtain opened, and there were the Pips--with a mike
up front but no Gladys Knight (or anybody else) standing there. The
Pips proceeded to do a Gladys Knight and the Pips song, with no lead
vocal. Just the Pips singing "doo-wah-wah-wah" at the appropriate
places. Truly bizarre, and hilarious. Does anybody else remember this?
What program was it, and why was Gladys not there, and why did they pick
a song that demanded a strong lead vocal when there WAS no lead vocal at
all?
Thanks,
---Dan
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 05:10:49 -0700 (PDT)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: Jackie on Rhino
Bill........How ya' doin'? I'm really happy that Rhino released Jackie
DeShannon's 1972 album....it is one of her best! I gave her Van Morrison's
"I wanna' roo you" and put her together with him to co-write. I'm glad
their three songs were finally released.
regards, Artie Wayne
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 08:40:03 -0400
From: Sheila B
Subject: Spectropop NY party
Hi everyone:
For all those members who will be attending the NY party, please
email me your full name (if you haven't already).
Spectropop members will get a $1 discount, and will be handed "Back
To Mono" pins at the door. Also, since this will most likely be a
packed house, those on the list will also be guaranteed entrance.
Email me: sheila@chachacharming.com
See you at the party!
Sheila
p.s. Please tell the girls at the door that you are on the
"Spectropop party list."
More info here: http://www.chachacharming.com
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 05:43:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: Midnight Mary
Clark........How ya' doin? I think the story was correct......as I remember
it describes the recording process in 1967 pretty well. For the record
"Midnight Mary", released in 1963, was my first hit [in the U.S.] as a
writer.......after 53 flops!!! I got tired of people recording my songs and
not being a hit......so I decided to start producing myself. When I made
the top ten I thought I had found the formula!!! By the way, I'm still
waiting for my second top ten hit as a producer.
regards, Artie Wayne
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 08:54:48 -0400
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: Reparata
Ray:
> As a teenager, growing up in Brooklyn, NY. I had the privledge of
> becoming lifelong friends with Reparata (of Reparata and the Delrons).
> Her recording of "I'm Nobody's Baby Now" is, of course, my favorite of
> all the Spector sounding records that Phil Spector did not produce. I
> also had the privledge to be present in the RCA studios when she
> recorded that song, and remember every detail that took place during
> that fantastic amazing session.
Hi Ray. Mikey here from Brooklyn, your old town!!
That's awesome that you were at the session for "Nobody's Baby Now".
By any chance, did you take any pictures?
Which studio was it recorded at? The 24th street studio? (It became
Baruch College, and I worked in the room where Elvis recorded "Hound
Dog") or, the uptown studio?
Nice to have you here.
Mikey
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 09:04:56 -0400
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: Midnight Mary
For the amazing Artie Wayne:
Do you remember a place in NYC on 48th street called "Sanders Recording
Studios"?? If so, what can you tell me about it?
Thanks!!
Mikey
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 14:41:39 +0100
From: Simon White
Subject: Re: The Pips sans Gladys?
Dan Hughes wrote:
> The talk of a Slyless Family Stone reunion pulled forth a dim memory....
> Musta' been in the 70's, some national TV show....featuring thePips as
> guest stars. The curtain opened, and there were the Pips--with a mike
> up front but no Gladys Knight (or anybody else) standing there.
Not saying this is the answer, but The Pips did record solo around '78 and
I seem to remember there was a little problem around this time.
I once saw Harold Melvin and The Blue NOTE in London. The rest of the group
had gone back to the States for various reasons (apparently) and so Harold
and his then current lead man - it could have been David Ebo - went through
the whole routine, just the two of them, with Harold, ever professional,
doing all the dance moves alone. It was, "a moment".
But is of course nothing on the groups that toured the U.K. in the sixties
billed as goups they weren't - sometimes not finding out until they arrived
at the venue!
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 14:45:50 +0100
From: Simon White
Subject: Ray Dahrouge
I wonder if any Spectropoppers can point me in the direction of information
on Ray Dahrouge? I know he wrote stuff, was in the doo wop group "Ray and
The Darchaes" and had a solo disco hit but I feel there is stuff being
missed.
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 10:04:23 EDT
From: Mike Rashkow
Subject: Re: Whatnauts
DJJimmyBee writes:
> I was playing the 45 "Please Make the Love Go Away" by The WhatNauts (Stang
> >5014) the other day, a song you co-wrote with Ellie. Any stories to share
> >here? In a deep soul vein, the song is so far from the poppy/hooky sound I
> >associate with both of you that I'm curious how it came about.
I wrote that song myself. Check the lyrics carefully, it will support my
assertion. Our partnership (correctly so) was such that we split all the work
50/50. I believe Ellie is also credited on "Dustry Roads", a jingle I wrote for
Coke. I do not believe I got 50% of anything she wrote by herself. She didn't
finish things by herself, but I did get 50% of things for which she made a
greater contribution than I did - so it all works our fair.
That was relatively early in our working together she was still signed to U.A.
as a writer, I was out of my deal with ABC so the publishing got split between
Unart and Pineywood.
> Not how it came about, but how it was recorded. Anyone ever notice that 45s
> on Stang sound like they were recorded in a bathroom? Great tunes, but
> sheeesh, the studio time must've been dirt cheap. Anyone know the Stang
> Story?
I was working as a mixer at Broadway Recording during that period. There
was a fellow that was a writer and producer that was doing demos and hanging
out and rehearsing things there--I'm not sure if it was George Kerr their
producer but he was pretty heavy set, played piano, arranged and sang pretty
well himself. He was spending a lot of time at Broadway Recording and I think
he was there when we did the demo on the song. He liked it right away and took
it for The Whatnauts. I had never heard of them before and I think it was
among the first things they did. The demo singer was the amazing Jimmy
Radcliffe who died young. Believe me, his vocal was far superior to what is on
the record. I thought the Whatnauts version was a little over dramatic. I
have the original demo somewhere and if I ever become computer competent I'll
play it up to Musica.
As far as the muddy sound, my guess is that it was recorded at the Englewood NJ
studio owned by Sylvia Robinson (Mickey and Sylvia) and they were still getting
it together over there. I was there once or twice--kind of a funky thrown
together place though they seemed to have money for the equipment. It was a
cheap room because it was a pain to get there from Manhattan. I think it was
essentially used for the Stang/All Platinum, et al stuff at that time. Later on
I seem too remember that some better stuff came out of there.
Going back to Broadway Recording, I think I've mentioned before that two
classics came out of that room--Smokey Places and Sally Go Round--plus lots of
great Latin stuff. Mucho Tito Puente and Charlie Palmieri, etc.
Rashkovsky
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 07:30:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Taber
Subject: Re: The Pips sans Gladys?
My memory says it was Richard Pryor special or limited
run series - might have been based on "not being able
to afford the whole group." I never hear "Midnight
Train" without thinking of it.
Sorry I can't make the party (was last in NYC in 1970,
though it's only 400 miles away.) I have to do a book
signing that night. Yes, writing that last sentence
was good for my ego!
Tom Taber
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 14:48:15 -0000
From: Laura Pinto
Subject: Re: Archies videos on Ron Dante Online
Clark Besch wrote:
> I have a cool old video of "Sugar Sugar" that is kinda ironic. Ron
> Dante basically unknown as lead singer of the Archies, yet this video
> is of 4 real life characters doing the song as the Archies. The
> ironic part is that Ron dante is performing as all 4 members in real
> life trick photography! Pretty funny idea!
Hi Clark,
What memories! The first time I ever saw Ron on TV was in September
of 1971 when he appeared on the Larry Kane Show out of Houston. The
show had been filmed on his birthday two weeks previously and Ron was
surprised with a cake and an audiotape of several of his friends
who'd called to wish him a happy (including Jeff Barry, who sang him
Happy Birthday). During the program, the "Sugar, Sugar" video to
which you refer was shown. Ron is shown singing (lip-synching) and
then the action cuts to three Rons via a split-screen effect, showing
him playing the guitar, drums, and tambourine respectively. That was
the last time I saw Ron on television until just a couple years ago
when he appeared on the "Chapel of Love: Jeff Barry and Friends" PBS
special. The "Sugar, Sugar" video pops up on VH1 every now and then
I believe, plus he has it on his site, at least he did last time I
checked.
When you can, please check out my site, Laura's Ron Dante Fan Pages.
It complements Ron's site nicely; he has mostly audio and video, and
I have mostly photos, links, and Ron's concert itinerary. I update
it frequently.
http://lpintop.tripod.com/laurasrondantefanpages/
As a postscript, I must observe that I audiotaped Ron's appearance on
Larry Kane, but I played the tape so much I finally wore it out. I
wish I'd thought to make a duplicate. I'd love to hear it again. I
also wish they'd had VCR's back then!
Laura
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 17:46:23 +0100
From: Amber
Subject: Re: Mikey's pomp
Moi:
> How will we recognize each other?
Mikey:
> SweetBabyPie.... I'll be in the Shiny Blue 1960s suit with the
> crosstie and the "Fabian" pompadour.... Shouldn't be too hard....
Gotcha! But be warned - No Grinding!
AvT
xxx
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 11:21:47 EDT
From: Ali ?
Subject: Re: The Pips sans Gladys?
Dan Hughes writes:
> Does anybody else remember this?
Yes! I think it was a Richard Pryor comedy special...
I know it was a hoot!
Ali
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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 10:23:46 -0400
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: Party
Duhhh.....Just kidding, folks.
Looking foward to "Its My Party", tho.
Mikey
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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 05:37:22 -0000
From: Tony Leong
Subject: Re: Reparata
Hi, since you were at that Reparata session, do you have any idea who
the backing singers were on that recording? From my understanding,
there was a long time between Carol and Shelia being dropped and
Nanette and Lorraine becoming official "Delrons" Tony Leong
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Message: 17
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 01:07:02 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: Party info; "Lost 60's"; "Tenement"; Robert DiLeo mp3s
Lots of excitement building for Friday's party - as Hank Ballard sang,
"People comin' from miles around / just to see what's goin' down." For our
friend Mikey:
SHINDIG!
Friday June 20th 2003
@ The Slipper Room
167 Orchard Street (corner of Stanton Street) Downtown, NYC
212.253.7246 - info on the club: http://www.slipperroom.com
from 8 PM to 3 AM; $8 cover / 21 and over, please
DJ's include:
Mick Patrick (Here Come The Girls)
Sheila B. (Cha Cha Charming)
DJ Jimmy Botticelli
Country Paul
plus more!
LIVE PERFORMANCES by New York's sensational girl group, "IT'S MY PARTY!"
and Elisabeth. More stuff and special guests are possible. See the
invitation with neato graphics at http://www.chachacharming.com
Now here's Martin Roberts with the "prequel":
> I would like to invite any Yanks in the vicinity of New York to a
> pre-Shindig get together on Wednesday the 18th. A few of us from the UK and
> US are meeting in the lobby of the Off Soho Suites Hotel, 11 Rivington St
> (two blocks South of Houston and Second Avenue) at approximately 8pm, before
> moving on to sample some local pizza. From what I can gather LOTS will be
> going on at the Shindig and it would be great to meet some S'pop friends
> beforehand.
I'll be there! (We may need to find a LARGE pizzeria!)
I must again mention "The Lost 60's Recordings" (Varese Vintage) of Rick
Nelson, Jerry Fuller, Glen Campbell and Dave Burgess. I find my enjoyment
level increases with every play. From the liner notes, Jerry Fuller says:
"At times, we wanted to be doo-wop. At times we wanted to be Buddy Holly &
The Crickets, and at times we wanted to be the Coasters." Some highlights:
The first two tracks by The Trophies (all four names on the cover), "Desire"
(great doo-wop with Glen Campbell doing a remarkable lead vocal) and
"Doggone It" (probably inspired by the Coasters, with an "is it really him?"
bass vocal by Rick Nelson; it would make for a cool NRBQ song). "Everlovin'"
by Dave Burgess and "A Wonder Like You" by Jerry Fuller were later a
two-sided hit for Rick Nelson; the arrangement here of "Everlovin'" nods to
Holly. Burgess' 1957 single, "I'm Available," was subsequently a hit for
Margie Rayburn. "Felicia" by the Trophies is a credible Marty Robbins "El
Paso"-styled song with the arrangement that would be later used on Nelson's
"Fools Rush In." And it's already been noted that a from-the-master dub of
Glen Campbell's "Turn Around, Look At Me" closes the CD. To me, much of the
music is well worth repeated listening; the fact that it has "hidden" star
power makes it even more interesting.
Stuffed Animal:
> "Caravan Of Lonely Men"....Released on Agon Records #1011, the flipside is
> "In My Tenement," an Artie Resnick song recorded by Clyde McPhatter on his
> excellent 1964 SONGS OF THE BIG CITY album.
A very fine version of "...Tenement" came out on Sue Records by Jackie McShane,
and got airplay and some sales at least in New York.
Jeffrey Glenn:
> As for any of the Dileo/Giant Jellybean Copout stuff being issued in
> stereo, I don't think we'll be seeing that anytime soon.:-( I'd be happy
> with an issue of the stuff from an actual master tape!
Dubs from vinyl are available at http://www.robertdileo50260s.mp3url.com/,
posted by Mr. DiLeo himself. "Awake In A Dream" is a true treat for this
Beach Boys fan. I also recommend "Calendar of Love" by the Team Mates, his
'50's group - beautiful vocal harmonies!
Steve Harvey:
> Did Lou drop the "d" from his name after the rest of the Velvets asked him
> to turn down his amp?
Can I sell you on the concept of a "Freudian typo"? :-) And I strongly
second your comments on localized radio and how bad almost all radio formats
have turned to predigested mush in the US.
Six days and counting,
Country Paul
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Message: 18
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 03:48:27 -0000
From: Ray
Subject: Re: Reparata
Hi Mikey
Thanks for the reply. Nice to hear from someone from my old home
town. What a great idea that would have been to take pictures during
Reparata's sessions but, at that time, I never gave it a thought.
And, I honestly don't remember exactly where the studio was located.
She recorded at so many different studios that the locations have
become meshed in my brain. I think it was uptown, but I could be
wrong. I only know that it was a studio dedicated specifically for
RCA artists. I do remember that Harry Belfonte was recording in the
room next door, and when he was finished, he came in to watch the
Reparata session. He was surprisingly very friendly and seemed to
like what he was hearing. I also remember that four songs were
recorded during that session...Nobody's Baby...I can hear the
Rain....Always Waiting...and...My Hero. The backup group included
the Delrons (Lorraine and Nanette) and Melba Moore, and another
singer whom I didn't know. What amazed me most were these two
background (hired) studio singers (Melba and the other girl) who came
to the session to augment the Delrons voices. As an ignorant
spectator, I was literally astonished at their ability to just look
at the sheet music for the first time, and then provide all the oohs
and aahs, in perfect pitch, in all the right places. It's a little
strange what you remember.
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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 21:46:02 +0100
From: Peter Lerner
Subject: Re: Spectropop NY party
Dear 'Poppers
If you're counting apologies for absence, please accept ours! Karen and I
are not averse to popping over to New York, but sadly this time we can't
make it, and are very jealous of those of you who can. Have a great time
everyone, and someone please play a Jackie DeShannon record for me!
Peter
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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2003 10:00:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: Re: First Post
Hey Ray,
Welcome to the group. I lived in Wilmington from 10 on
and now live up the road in Aston. Always thought of
Wilmington as the city that never wakes up! It used to
be a happening place from the 30s-50s. First read about
Phil Spector via the Concord Pike library (Out Of His Head).
Got to meet Darlene Love a couple of years back as well as
Jerry Yester. Even have a few white label dj Philles
records that used to belong to Hy Lit.
Let me guess, you transferred to Dupieville for your job?
That's the way many newcomers make it there.
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Message: 21
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 20:31:06 +0100
From: Martin Roberts
Subject: Jack Nitzsche At Update
Jack Nitzsche, Terry Melcher, Darlene Love, the Blossoms,
Barry of the Tamerlanes - these are just some of the names
featured on Record of the Week, Eddie Hodges' "Seein' Is Believin'".
http://www.spectropop.com/JackNitzsche/index.htm
Next week the choice is between Jack's first string arrangement
for Kari Lynn or his first production for Judy Henske, released
as by Judy Hart. Exciting stuff!
"Drum Demo #4", sub-titled "Jack Nitzsche Speaks!", is now playing
On The Radio: http://www.spectropop.com/JackNitzsche/radio.htm
Martin
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