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There are 19 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: International Pop Overthrow
From: Andrew Hickey
2. Gene Pitney '60
From: Phil Milstein
3. Re: Buddah stuff
From: Snap
4. Doc Pomus
From: Peter Lerner
5. Re: Patrice Holloway: She's Got Skills
From: Laura Pinto
6. Re: Needles and Pins by Love and Tears, 1971
From: Shea Ryan
7. Re: Three Degrees
From: Shea Ryan
8. Re: Needles And Pins by Love And Tears, 1971
From: Shea Ryan
9. Re: Roemans
From: Joey G
10. Gary Mills
From: Austin Powell
11. Secret Chiffons
From: David Bell
12. Record or CD search
From: Harry Jay
13. Sherman and her Shermits
From: Alan Gordon
14. Where went the girls?
From: David Parkinson
15. Re: Buddah stuff
From: Artie Wayne
16. Re: Record or CD search
From: Scott
17. Re: Where went the girls?
From: Mark Frumento
18. Mono mixes
From: David Goodwin
19. bronzing
From: David Bell
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 02:26:25 +0100
From: Andrew Hickey
Subject: Re: International Pop Overthrow
Kingsley Abbott wrote:
> Some of you may know that the IPO is coming to Europe for the
> first time after five or six successful years Stateside in NY,
> LA and Chicago. David Bash is staging it at The Cavern from
> 13th to 19th October, and it is sure to create some waves.
> Perhaps of most interest here is the (probably) Saturday night
> reunion of Harmony Grass and maybe even Tony Rivers and The
> Castaways (who I last saw in 1966!),
Actually, David Bash told me in an email yesterday that the
Castaways would *probably* be playing on Thursday the 16th, not
on the Saturday. Tony is also doing a set with his son Antony on
a different day - are you thinking of that?
Although who plays on what day won't be finalised until the 18th.
There are a *lot* of other great acts playing as well - I believe
Sean Macreavy will be playing, for one...
--
http://stealthmunchkin.com
Stealth Munchkin play the Cavern, Liverpool in October
As part of International Pop Overthrow. More details shortly
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 23:26:09 -0400
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Gene Pitney '60
Anyone here researching Gene Pitney? I found a one-page
article/photo/interview on/of/with him in the Nov. 1960
issue of a small NYC journal called Songwriter's Review, a
copy of which I will send to anyone upon request. I'm not
intimately familiar enough with his career to know whether
there's anything new or vital included in it, but it strikes
me as being from a very early phase of his career, and so
could possibly shed some light on his early doings.
Contact me off-list if interested.
--Phil M.
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 04:31:36 -0000
From: Snap
Subject: Re: Buddah stuff
Country Paul wrote:
> I also seem to remember that the Ohio Express/Rare Breed and
> perhaps the Lemon Pipers were the only "real bands" among Buddah
> bubblegum artists - the rest were studio creations. Or am I
> misinformed?
As I recall, The Lovin Spoonful were on Buddha, as well as Lou
Christie for at least "I'm Going To Make You Mine", The Brooklyn
Bridge, Gladys Knight & The Pips, Curtis Mayfield, Captain
Beefheart and the Andrea True Connection.
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 13:33:13 +0100
From: Peter Lerner
Subject: Doc Pomus
I don't think I've seen this mentioned preciously, but anyone
interested in the songs of Doc Pomus (and what a vast range of
songs there is) certainly ought to read the series of articles
by Spencer Leigh in "Now Dig This" magazine. Spencer aims to
list every song and every known version, as well as describing
the song and any known circumstances pertaining to its writing.
It's good stuff! Details of NDT are on http://www.nowdigthis.co.uk
Peter
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 12:59:34 -0000
From: Laura Pinto
Subject: Re: Patrice Holloway: She's Got Skills
Stuffed Animal wrote:
> What is it about Patrice Holloway that makes her recordings
> so damn special?.......Brenda Lee has better vocal quality,
> Connie Francis has better technique, Dionne Warwick has more
> gospel training, Dusty Springfield is more sophisticated, Darlene
> Love is more powerful, and La La Brooks conveys more drama ...
> but when Patrice sings, it sounds like she's got pure emotion
> welling up in her throat.
Stuff,
Your final paragraph could've described Ronnie Spector as well ...
and I'm a big Ronnie lover! So it's no wonder I'm fond of Patrice's
vocals as well, having become acquainted with them through her fine
work with Josie and the Pussycats (that's her on the theme song, is
it not?). I'd love to hear more of her songs; let's talk!
Laura
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 13:32:11 -0000
From: Shea Ryan
Subject: Re: Needles and Pins by Love and Tears, 1971
Billy G. wrote:
> One thing I noticed on the website with the Love & Tears picture
> sleeves is that the LP "Needles And Pins" was re-released on CD -
> have you tried to find it anywhere?
See, that's what I thought when I found that page...so I then
contacted, via email, Hans Juergen-Gritz ('scuse the spelling),
aka 'DJ Hansi', credited therein with 'remastering' the LP...
WONDERFUL person, who personally allowed me access to his digital
files of not only the entire LP, but four additional 'singles'
tracks as well...I'm usually against the practice of DLing music on
the net, but as the Love and Tears' LP/singles are quite unavailable
via any other standard means (if a record label wants to reissue the
LP on CD I'd certainly be first in line with my cash!), I took him
up on it and happily...
I'm thinking he 'remastered' a CD but that it was a limited
(German/Dutch) reissue. Or not...
Send him an email, but bear in mind he's not English-fluent. I had to
use the Alta Vista Babelfish translation service, and that was a pain
(translate to German from English, BACK to English from the resulting
German to check for mis-interpretations -- and there WILL BE, trust
me!-- repair, then retranslate back into German, etc.) It takes a few
minutes, but worth the effort (my first English to German try: "It
would make me so happy to find this album." became, in German, "It
will me so lucky to find this album to form.")
Glad you liked the song (I uploaded it to Musica files a few weeks
ago). The WHOLE LP is great, and if you liked "Needles and Pins",
they also do a knock-your-(bobby)-socks-off rendition of another pop
chestnut, "Diana".
Shea
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 13:52:17 -0000
From: Shea Ryan
Subject: Re: Three Degrees
Nick Archer wrote:
> I always thought that the Three Degree's version of "Maybe" on
> Roulette was one of the most scorching pop singles ever recorded.
> You need a James Brown towel after just listening to it.
YES! If you hadn't brought it up, I was going to... "Maybe", in
its original incarnation (60s?) and NOT the more disco/RB treatment
they gave it later in the 70s (probably in their "When Will I See
You Again" era), did, indeed, scorch.
I have often wondered why a current female R&B artist (Lauren Hill
would do it justice...) does not pick it up for a remake. It's
certainly timeless. I think the hard part to covering this song
would be giving it the same poignant sass and anguish the Three
Degrees gave it...
They RULED.
Shea
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 13:43:53 -0000
From: Shea Ryan
Subject: Re: Needles And Pins by Love And Tears, 1971
Bill Craig wrote:
> That's a neat version. The more impassioned verse vocal sounds
> quite a bit like Steve Marriot.
> The Searchers still did the definitive recording IMHO, and I like
> Cher's a lot also. Does the Jackie DeShannon have the verse with
> the lyrics "I can't let go although I know he'll make me cry till
> the day I die...etc." I can't remember.
You're not the first to believe the Love and Tears version bore a
Steve Marriot influence...but no, believe it or not, German popster
G.G. Anderson (nee Gerd Grabowski, circa '68-'72 w/Love and Tears)
sang both the sweet 'boyish' first verse AND belted out the Marriot-
like 3rd verse. I'm not sure which of the other bandmates did the 2nd
verse...
I LOVE Jackie DeShannon...but I can't recall her version of "Needles
and Pins". Will have to look into that. Whatever happened to her?
Last thing I heard from her was the song "Vanilla Olay", in the
early 70s...
Shea
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 13:43:52 EDT
From: Joey G
Subject: Re: Roemans
Michael Gessner:
> Does anyone have any of the ABC singles by The Roemans?
Yes I do...its a white label promo....
Joey "G".
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 18:57:31 +0100
From: Austin Powell
Subject: Gary Mills
Country Paul wrote:
> Interesting story re: "Look for a Star." I have the
> Gary Mills version on Imperial, which has a Part 1 and Part 2,
> both 2:09 in duration. Can't get to the turntables at the
> moment; was one vocal and one instrumental?
Paul: I have never seen the US release. In the UK the "B" side
was a cover version of Steve Lawrence's "Footsteps". It's a fair
bet Pt 2 was an instrumental, i.e. the backing track on its own.
Imperial would probably have thought using the UK b-side was a
waste of time?? The strange thing is that Mills' UK label Top Rank
didn't license it to their own subsidiary label in New York. I
don't think Imperial issued his UK (flop) follow-up "Coming Down
With Love", but Rank Records of America did issue the other UK hit
of his that they had rights to ("Top Teen Baby"), but by then Top
Rank in the UK had become part of EMI. Yeah, well making sense of
the record business has often been beyond me !
Austin
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 18:41:13 -0000
From: David Bell
Subject: Secret Chiffons
Just thought that fellow Chiffons fanatics would like to know
that their next to impossible to find album "Secret Love" on
BT Puppy is up for grabs on eBay at the moment. Only those with
unlimited credit on their Mastercards need bother bidding (LOL).
David.
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 13:22:15 -0600 (Mountain Daylight Time)
From: Harry Jay
Subject: Record or CD search
Hi, I'm searching for many years for a record or CD by an
orchestra with 3 girls singing, who sounded like the Andrews
Sisters. It was circa 1945-46. the song was "Choo Choo Ch'Boogie"
Great guitar solo!
It may not have been released on CD yet but I'll take anything one
finds. They may have been from the U.K.
Thank you
Harry Jay
harryjay1@comcast.net
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 12:43:08 -0700
From: Alan Gordon
Subject: Sherman and her Shermits
>From Country Paul:
> Re: "I'm Into Something Good": I always preferred the Earl-
> Jean version - sly, sexy, and perfect chord change in the chorus
> on "told him I could". The Hermits were just too darned clean
> for the song! (Of course, they did have their strengths - "My
> Reservation's Been Confirmed" rocks with the best of 'em, for
> example.)
I love the Earl-Jean version. It's much more raw and under-produced
... sorta.
As for the Hermits: They could really rock, not with as much gestapo
aplomb as the DC5 - gawd, I love that goose-step beat and Mike's
throat-searing vocals - but certainly with what seemed like a whole
high-school-cafeteria arsenal of bubbling energy:
Sea Cruise
Just A Little Bit Better (one of my faves)
Listen People (which has that fast-slow thang, much like the DC5's
Everybody Knows. Great fun to perform live.)
She's A Muscular Boy (I love this song. Why hasn't some gay band
interpreted this? I can only imagine the disco beat put to it.)
No Milk Today (My cow has passed away)
... just to mention a very few.
And speaking of "Sherman": The box set of the first season on Rocky
and His Friends (erroneously and redundantly titled: Rocky and
Bullwinkle and his friends) is now out on DVD in the USofA... And for
all you 60s fans (now why would I think there might be a few of you
guys & gals out there in S'pop land?), The Dick Van Dyke Show, season
one and two will be released here in the States next month. Now all
that remains for my digital TV sating is Northern Exposure and The
Rockford Files to hit the streets - both are supposedly being
"prepared" for release before the end of the year.
peace,
albabe
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 17:10:47 -0700
From: David Parkinson
Subject: Where went the girls?
Does anyone out there have a good idea where I might find CDs
in the series "Here Come The Girls"? They all seem to be out of
print; or perhaps Amazon does not carry them for some reason.
David
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 17:32:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: Buddah stuff
Paul..........How ya' doin'? My partner Kelli Ross and I ran
Joey Levine and Artie Resnick's publishing company when they
were having all of their bubblegum hits on Buddah. If you saw
their names as producers, it usually meant Joey was singing.
originally, there was a real Ohio Express and Shadows of Knight
who continued to tour while Levine/Resnick did their recordings.
As far as the rest of the label's roster goes, the 1910 Fruitgum
Company was a real group who sang on their records.........the
Lemon Pipers may have been a creation of Paul Leka's to front his
spectacular production of "Green Tambourine". We didn't represent
him so I can't say for sure.
Regards,
Artie Wayne
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 21:23:32 EDT
From: Scott
Subject: Re: Record or CD search
Harry Jay writes:
> Hi, I'm searching for many years for a record or CD by
> an orchestra with 3 girls singing, who sounded like the
> Andrews Sisters. It was circa 1945-46. the song was
> "Choo Choo Ch'Boogie" Great guitar solo!
> It may not have been released on CD yet but I'll take
> anything one finds. They may have been from the U.K.
Bit of trivia here -
Mr. Jay was a member of Larry & the Legends ...
Scott
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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 01:56:53 -0000
From: Mark Frumento
Subject: Re: Where went the girls?
David Parkinson wrote:
> Does anyone out there have a good idea where I might find
> CDs in the series "Here Come The Girls"?
David - Go to the UK site of Amazon: http://www.amazon.co.uk/
I think some the series are harder to get than others but most
show as available within a few days.
I order regularly from the UK site and it is as good or better
than ordering from the US. Sometimes faster! For UK CDs the
prices are excellent because US buyers save on the VAT which is
added to the listing price.
Good luck
Mark F.
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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 01:27:17 -0400
From: David Goodwin
Subject: Mono mixes
Hey all,
I've recently been doing some mono LP rips, and it got me
thinking...is there any established place on the internet
for people to go to share long-OOP mono mixes? I'm thinking
things like "Spirit of '67" or "Let's Live For Today" or the
Association's early albums...y'know, things that probably won't
show up on CD officially anytime soon.
If not, one should definitely be established! Sites like the
digital archive project (http://www.dapcentral.org) have shown
that it's fully possible for an organized effort to protect and
catalogue media objects that've "fallen out of the public favor"
as it were. Something similar for music--and, specifically, for
long OOP alternate mixes/mono mixes--might be a fun project to
pursue. Discuss offlist anyone?
-D
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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 11:04:31 -0000
From: David Bell
Subject: bronzing
I've just taken out my Chiffons' CD "Greatest Recordings"
on Ace Records and noticed that it has has bronzed. It's
playing absolutely fine but I'm wondering if it will
eventually disintegrate? Is there any way of getting a
replacement CD from Ace?
David.
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