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Volume #0111 July 5, 1998
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Represented globally
Subject: Box Tops Remakes
Sent: 07/04/98 8:27 am
Received: 07/04/98 9:47 am
From: Paul Urbahns, PaulurbXXXX@XXXom
In a message dated 98-07-03 14:49:33 EDT, Scott wrote:
><< Almost always, the alleged re-recordings were, in
>fact, the original recordings. However, the version of "The Letter"
>on one of these albums CLEARLY was a re-recording. The voice was
>most certainly Alex Chilton, but it sounded like the Alex Chilton
>from his "High Priest" album days and not the gruff blue-eyed soul
>days of the Box Tops. Perhaps this is the version that you heard on
>the radio. >>
I found my old album with these songs on it. The first release I
saw of the two K-Tel cuts by the Box Tops was on a EXCELSIOR XMP-
6012, called ROCK FEVER. You should be able to find these cuts
reissued on a Dominion CD as that is the label K-Tel is using to
market the remakes today. The copyright date on ROCK FEVER is 1980.
I kept it and one other LP or remakes. ROCK FEVER has: Bend Me,
Shape Me: American Breed; The Letter and Cry Like A Baby- The Box
Tops; Wild Thing by The Troggs; Worst That Could Happen by The
Brooklyn Bridge (yes it's Johnny singing); 98.6 by Keith; Spooky
and Traces by The Classics IV; Precious And Few by Climax; The
Rapper by Jaggerz; Time Won't Let Me by The Outsiders; Soul Man
by Sam & Dave.
Paul Urbahns
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Subject: Re: Re-recordings
Sent: 07/04/98 7:46 am
Received: 07/04/98 9:47 am
From: Marc Wielage, XXXX@XXXtrax.com
CC: Paul Urbahns, PaulurbXXXX@XXXom
Paul Urbahns <PaulurbXXXX@XXXom> write on the Spectropop List:
>The K-Tel remakes that most of the discussion is about concern
>1970's recordings made in Nashville...
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Cool! Thanks sincerely for the details, Paul. I never knew exactly
where or when these fake re-recordings were done, and now we know!
Now, if we could only get labels like K-Tel to more-vigorously put
giant warning stickers on their products...
--MFW
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Subject: Re: Spectropop V#0110
Sent: 07/04/98 8:11 am
Received: 07/04/98 9:47 am
From: Doc Rock, docroXXXX@XXXcom
Dean re-recorded the Jan & Dean hits for KTEL in the late '70s.
He's still waiting to be paid.
Doc
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Subject: Clydie King and the Crystals
Sent: 07/04/98 8:14 am
Received: 07/04/98 9:47 am
From: WILLIAM STOS, wsXXXX@XXXt.com
I've heard two Clydie King records from the sixties and they're
already both favourites of mine, can anyone tell me if any of her
sixties stuff is out on cd. Also, I've heard that she and Clyde
Kirk from the Crystals/Spector background were one and the same.
Is this true?
By the way, does everyone know that Barbara Alston of the Crystals
is writing an autobiography? I've bee chatting with her and she
says that most of it will be about the gals experience with Phil.
Will
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Subject: Ronettes and Phil Spector
Sent: 07/04/98 6:27 am
Received: 07/04/98 9:47 am
From: R Teyes, RTeXXXX@XXXom
I want to thank all who've emailed me and thanked me for keeping
you up to date with the "war of sound"...my pleasure!
Well, Phil was interviewed by the NY Daily News and it was the
first time in ten years that he's spoken to the media. The newsman
Michael met him at Elaine's, a popular restaurant in Manhattan.
Phil sat in a dark area of the place and spoke at length. One
thing he mentioned was that their son Donte, who was in LA and ten
at the time , ran from home and told the police Phil was beating
him. When the police called Phil, he responded, "Keep him, I'm not
coming down." Ronnie sued for custody of Donte, won the case, then
abondoned him to Estelle, Phil said, and he should be 30 years old
by now. So, this is critical here, because who is telling the
truth is not clear. You have to read Ronnie's book to find out her
side. Donte is a factor in the case because he would've been a
witness to the whole thing. Remember, the Ronettes are suing for
11 million and Ronnie is using the mental anguish and abuse card...
more next time.
Robert the Ronette Hound. Hi John Rausch my good buddy and Mark
who has a great site on Philles! Hi Ronnie and Jonathan and the
kids! Hi Nedra and Estelle! Hi Lala Brooks! (Hi, Phil!)
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Subject: Rerecordings and the Honeys
Sent: 07/04/98 8:11 am
Received: 07/04/98 9:47 am
From: WILLIAM STOS, wsXXXX@XXXt.com
> The re-recording issue is a real problem for collectors. Me
> personally, I sympathize with the plight of the artists, but I
> think nobody would buy the fake versions if they were clearly
> identified as such.
I buy them all the time. I don't understand why collectors
wouldn't buy them. When I see those comps by as sung by the
original artists I snatch them up quickly. The Chiffons rerecorded
their hits in the late seventies, and although the originals are
indeed better, the new versions are pretty good too. In this case,
you can find an original version of the song anywhere, but the new
stuff is harder to find.
>> Are you sure it wasn't Marilyn Wilson? Both Wilson sisters have
>> said in the past that their mother sings great.
> Most of the Honeys' lead vocals were by cousin Ginger Blake, who
> was possessed of a great set of pipes. She spent most of the
> Sixties and Seventies singing professionally as a backing singer.
She also sang lead on the records the Honeys recorded as Ginger and
the Snaps.
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Subject: Ronnie Dyson
Sent: 07/04/98 4:07 am
Received: 07/04/98 9:47 am
From: David Bash, BashXXXX@XXXom
<< But for me, TB's masterpiece is Ronnie Dyson's "One Man Band." The
first side is nonstop brilliance. Any song on the first side could
have (and should have) been a hit single. It contains the
freewheeling first recording of "I Just Don't Want to Be Lonely,"
"One Man Band," and other treasures. It's a shame that Dyson
encountered personal problems. He was a true prodigy, like Michael
Jackson. But I compare him more to the young Dionne Warwick,
possessed with an emotional depth that made him seem decades older.
Bell was smart enough to not gimmick up this album too much --
his purpose was to complement Dyson's beautiful voice.
Dave Feldman >>
Hi Dave,
I agree with you about Ronnie. After hearing the Main Ingredient's
version of "I Just Don't Want To Be Lonely", it's no surprise that
Dyson does it as well- it really fits.
In 1978 my uncle had a magazine called Disco World, and one day
they were holding a disco party at a roller skating rink in
Brooklyn. Ronnie Dyson was one of the featured performers, and
after the show was over I gave him and his mom a ride home. Both
of them were very nice, and Ronnie was very down to earth and
humble. When I heard about his tragedies it really made me sad.
--
Spectropop Rules!!!!!
Take Care,
David (who's sorry for talking about the "wrong Ronnie" for this list) :-)
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Subject: Usher on Brave Belt / Chad Allan/Barry Allen
Sent: 07/04/98 1:20 pm
Received: 07/04/98 8:12 pm
From: Javed Jafri, javedjaXXXX@XXXt.ca
David Marsteller wrote:
>
> I've got both Brave Belt lps, and there are no Usher songwriting
> credits. That brought another Bachman-related album to mind, so I
> checked the Barry Allen lp that Randy Bachman produced in 1971,
> but that didn't have any Usher credits either. Oh well...
> Dave
Dave,
Are you refering to the Chad Allan album "Sequel". Chad was the
original lead singer of the Guess Who before Burton Cummings and
sang on their first hit "Shakin' All Over". He was also a member
of Brave Belt. All I have left of "Sequel" is the cover and it
does not list any production or writing credits.
Barry Allen had a Canadian hit with the song "Lovedrops" in 1965
and I'm not aware of any Bachman connection but I could be wrong.
Javed
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