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Volume #0112 July 7, 1998
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The ORIGINAL HITS rerecorded by the ORIGINAL ARTISTS
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Subject: Barry Allen
Sent: 07/05/98 9:42 am
Received: 07/05/98 9:41 pm
From: David Marsteller, davebXXXX@XXXflin.org
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com
On Sat, 04 Jul 1998, Javed Jafri wrote:
>Subject: Usher on Brave Belt / Chad Allan/Barry Allen
>David Marsteller wrote:
>>
>>I've got both Brave Belt lps, and there are no Usher songwriting
>>credits. That brought another Bachman-related album to mind, so I
>>checked the Barry Allen LP that Randy Bachman produced in 1971,
>>but that didn't have any Usher credits either.
>
>Dave,
>
> Are you referring to the Chad Allan album "Sequel". Chad was the
> original lead singer of the Guess Who before Burton Cummings and
> sang on their first hit "Shakin' All Over". He was also a member
> of Brave Belt. All I have left of "Sequel" is the cover and it
> does not list any production or writing credits.
>
> Barry Allen had a Canadian hit with the song "Lovedrops" in 1965
> and I'm not aware of any Bachman connection but I could be wrong.
>
No, I am indeed referring to Barry Allen. I have an LP titled
"Barry Allen" which was produced by Randy Bachman for the UNI label
in 1971.
Dave
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Subject: KTEL remakes
Sent: 07/05/98 1:11 am
Received: 07/05/98 10:53 am
From: Doc Rock, docroXXXX@XXXcom
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com
>>...think nobody would buy the fake versions if they were
>>clearly identified as such.
>I buy them all the time. I don't understand why collectors
>wouldn't buy them
I hate it when they are played on the radio as the originals, but
I, too, collect "KTEL remakes," a generic term I use for many
brands of re-recordings. Bobby Vee's "Come Back When You Grow Up"
is almost identical to the original. Mike Clifford's "Close To
Cathy" is actually better than the original (which I love), and is
in stereo to boot!
Subject: Where Are They?
Sent: 07/04/98 11:33 pm
Received: 07/05/98 10:53 am
From: CLAUDIA CUNNINGHAM, TPXXXX@XXX.net
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com
One of the things that annoy me most about the so called "oldies"
stations is the fact that there is a great conspiracy of silence
toward half of the songs that were very popular in the 50s ad 60s.
For instance, they will play "Wooly Bully" by Sam the Sham but how
about the other songs which reached the top of the charts by Sam
such as "Little Red Riding Hood", or "Ju Ju Hand"? Silence, total
silence. Another example: You hear the Four Tops belting out "Can't
Help Myself" or "Bernadette" ad nauseam, but how about their
wonderful "Just Ask the Lonely" or "Keeper of the Castle"? Silence.
Now, I kind of concluded that the original oldie format was based
on a bunch of businessmen who wanted to make a quick buck and who
figured the population had a two minute memory capacity. They
probably hired a bunch of kids who weren't even around during the
Golden Age of Top 40 who worked cheap and just played the more
obvious hits of the era. I long for a station which will broadcast
the real, true music of the 50s and 60s, and yes, I mean everything
from Teddy Randazzo's, "That's the Way of a Clown" and Jackie
Wilson's version of "Night" and the Righteous Bros. "Ebb Tide" and
even Dean Martin's "Everybody Loves Somebody Sometime". The era
was magic because you could hear everything from Dolly Parton who
was REAL country back then, singing "Happy, Happy Birthday, Baby"
to Ferrante and Teischer playing their dueling piano hits such as
"Exodus" and "Theme from the Apartment"...that is why it was known
as the golden age.
This is just my opinion, and my opinion plus 25 cents will buy you
a cup of coffee, but I'm wondering if anyone out there feels like I
do.
And one more thing. During the winter of '64 there was a gas of a
record called "Baby, baby, baby" by Bobby Byrd and Anna King which
has gone the way of most of those great tunes back then: down the
drain. Does anyone know what happened to them? Claudia
Subject: Hondells
Sent: 07/06/98 3:01 pm
Received: 07/06/98 11:32 pm
From: Frank Youngwerth, FMXXXX@XXXom
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com
>>I recently saw a Curb CD greatest hits package for the Hondells,
>>but it has like only a dozen cuts on it so I passed on it. OTOH,
>>it may possibly have My Buddy Seat taken from the master tapes.
>I've seen this CD, too. Has anybody picked it up? I'd love to
>if the master tapes were used and how it sounds.
The Curb CD has only 9 tracks, with a total time of 18:20! (Thanks,
Mike) I just pulled it out to play "My Buddy Seat" and it's a
true stereo mix from a 2nd or 3rd generation tape (but not vinyl).
Sounds like noise reduction was applied to minimize hiss. The
overall sound for the disc is about what you'd expect from an
indifferent major label budget compilation. About half the tracks
are mono. No liner notes.
I bought the disc to hear their chart version of "Younger Girl,"
but it's inferior to the Critters'. BTW my current favorite
Hondells track is "Kissing My Life Away"--not on the Curb disc,
but included on one of the recent Varese Sunshine Days comps.
Derivative, sure (Neil Sedaka rips off Porgy & Bess in the verse
and "Monday Monday" in the bridge), but happy and inspired.
Frank Youngwerth
Subject: various artists
Sent: 07/07/98 12:45 am
Received: 07/07/98 12:52 am
From: Jamie LePage, le_page_XXXX@XXXties.com
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXXX@XXXties.com
Re: Robin Ward
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Jack Madani wrote:
>Goldmine (#467) - ad for Music By Mail Inc. (www.musicbyemail.com)
>Robin Ward: All The Hits And More (MISS 002) Price: $18.95
Haven't heard of this release. Anyone know about the quality? All
the Robin records I know of are wonderful!
>Today I Fell In Love
Is this a great piece of GG Brill songwriting? Just perfect, and
I think inspired by Nitzsche's approach (use of major 7 and 9 in
the melody). Anyone else think Perry Botkin Jr borrowed from
Nitzsche? Or am I totally off base here?
>Winter's Here
This song is amazing. I swear I have heard a different version,
but I can't find it by another artist anywhere. This is driving me
nuts. Anyone know if this was covered by another artist?
>Born Too Late (with Wink Martindale)
>Hey Girl, Hey boy (with Wink Martindale)
>Letter From Sherry (with Dale Ward)
>I've Got A Girlfriend (with Dale Ward)
<etc>
Never heard of these duets. Wink Martindale was a local LA DJ in
the mid sixties, although not a very hip one. I think he was on
the MOR channel and later went into television as a game show
host or something. The records can't be too good except maybe for
novelty value. Anyone heard these?
>There's even a picture of the album cover, which has a picture of
>Robin from the [barenaked] shoulders up, with close-cut pageboy
>haircut...
"Get the picture? Yes, we see."
Then Doc chimes in with:
>Was everyone aware that Robin (aka Jackie) Ward was the female
>voice on Pat Boone's "Speedy Gonzales?"
No, and that's strange. What's the story behind that?
>
>Or that her voice was speeded up on "Wonderful Summer" to make
>her sound young?
This is not a surprise. It was (is) often done. Hey, it works
for me! I love the sound of her vocals on In His Car, Wonderful
Summer, well, all of them - even the standards.
Re: The Greatest Honeys Records
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Brad Elliott wrote:
>As good as "The One You Can't
>Have" is, you gotta hear "He's a Doll"! And the best part is
>they're back-to-back on the CD -- what a one-two punch!
Yes, when I mentioned the Honeys a few issues ago, The One You
Can't Have slipped my mind. What a great track! Along with He's a
Doll and Pray For Surf, these are the best examples of Brian
Wilson shooting for the Spector WoS treatment, and very good
attempts at that in spite of the awful mastering on the originals.
Thankfully the Honeys CD straightened out that problem. Now if EMI
would only keep the record in print...
Marc Wielage commented:
>I recently listened to the piece-by-piece sessions of "The One You
>Can't Have" on those Sea of Tunes discs, and I was floored
Yes, so was I. The Sea of Tunes releases are crystal clear. Why,
they sound as if they are digitally recorded off the original master
tapes! ;-)
Re: KTEL re-recordings
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Paul Urbahns wrote:
>Stan Shulman...was the Executive producer. Stan owned Dunes label
>in the 60's He discovered Ray Peterson "Tell Laura I Love Her",
>He was involved with Pretty Little Angel eyes and Phil Spector.
>
>I have other information but I doubt if you are interested that
>they used 24 track tape machines. The audiophile issues are
>normally in wide stereo but the general releases are mixed almost
>to mono.
A very revealing post, Paul. Thanks! I hope at some point we can
discuss Dunes label and its hits, especially as they involve
Spector and Las Vegas. I mean, Dunes was connected with the Vegas
hotel somehow, wasn't it?
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