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Volume #0181 November 8, 1998
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You'll get all the Top Pops at Boots Record Shops
Subject: Barry Mann - "Complete Recordings" 3cd set
Sent: 11/08/98 5:16 am
Received: 11/08/98 7:07 am
From: Francesc Sole, fXXXXXXXX.es
Friends,
I found this 3 cd set at a record fair. It seems very rare to
me. It has 80 songs, 58 of which unreleased (it says). A lot of
demos. Great sound. Also includes Neil Sedaka and Cynthia Weil
unreleased tracks. If this is a rarity, then I'll post the song
titles (I'm not sure if it is right now - the cds date back from
1995 - label: Brill Tone Records...). Complete title: Barry Mann -
Inside The Brill Building.
francesc
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Subject: Re: Pizzicato 5/Burt Bacharach
Sent: 11/08/98 2:34 am
Received: 11/08/98 7:07 am
From: Trucker Toby, MUV9XXXXXXXXent2.lu.se
David wrote:
>fyi, "Me Japanese Boy" was originally recorded by Bobby
>Goldsboro. It can be found on Rhino's new Bacharach Box or the BG
>EMI Legendary Masters series CD. Also check out the cover version
>by Japan's Pizzicato Five on their "5X5" EP on US Matador.
Pizzicato 5 released a record in 1987, "Couples", which is like
the ultimate mix of Phil Spector, Antonio Carlos Jobim, Bacharach,
Michel Legrand and soft rock like......Roger Nichols & The Small
Circle Of Friends! Yeah!! One of the songs on "Couples", can't
remember the title (think it's track #6) is entirely based around
Nichols' "Love So Fine"!
If you don't have this record, pick it up, I assure you all that
no Spectropop member would be disappointed! Plus---the lyrics
are all in Japanese, how cool isn't that!?!!! Tres tres cool :)
On the topic of Burt Bacharach, I picked up a pretty awful copy of
The Starshine Orchestra And Singers' "The Music Of Burt Bacharach"
which turns the beauty of Mr B's music into horrible shopping mall
muzak, but there's one track called "On My Own" which is pretty
good and the original must be much better but I haven't heard that
one. So who performed the ultimate version of "On My Own" in the
first place? The lyrics are written by Carol Bayer Sager which
means the track dates from the late seventies to early eighties.
Anyone know?
Tobias
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Subject: a different perspective
Sent: 11/07/98 5:42 am
Received: 11/07/98 10:48 am
From: Barbara Alston, BARBXXXXXXXXcom
Hi Doc: Thanks for letting me know about your article. I would
love to read it. Can I view it from your site, docrXXXXXXXX.com?
Hi Jamie: Loved your comments and you gave me a different
perspective on He's A Rebel. I always felt, however, that singers
(more or less) should feel the words and meanings of their songs,
not to just sing them for commercial reasons.
I guess it is true that White people would relate that song to
James Dean during that era more so than Blacks would. I doubt,
however, if many Black people related it that way. When most
people hear certain tunes or melodies, then tend to relate those
tunes or melodies to something meaningful in their life or from
your past. I'm sure that every song has different meanings to
different people, so I'm not surprised to know that that
particular song has a pleasant meaning to you. What I was trying
to convey was that He's A Rebel had no particular meaning
whatsover to me other than a negative one. I'm glad, however, that
so many people enjoyed the song and that it related to something
wonderful for them.
Vikki Carr was the perfect person to sing that song. And, if it
wasn't for Phil trying to jump the gun and beat her release out,
she would have been the only one at the time to sing that song.
But, be it as it may, we were thrown in the pot.
Don't get me wrong, now, I liked the song. I just didn't like it
for us. It had no meaning to us and no feeling from within from us.
That's all I meant. I don't doubt at all that labels target
certain audiences with certain music. That's all musical politics
to me. It's all about making a buck! But each song an entertainer
sings should have some personal meaning to them, I feel. And, to
me (and a considerable number of other Blacks at the time), He's A
Rebel had a negative aura and all any of us could think of at that
time was southern rebel chaos.
Spanish Harlem and Uptown were different. The words were more
meaningful and anyone could relate to them. Everyone, especially
Blacks, cannot relate to being a rebel. To tell you the truth, I
don't know one Black person who bought that record. :-)
And you are absolutely correct when you say that Black Americans
do not recognize the contribution the girl groups made to our
musical history. But, women on a whole, have always been somewhat
neglected when it comes to their impact on history overall. But,
we're here!
Thank you so much for your insight concerning that record and how
it appealed to you. I'm certainly glad to hear it now because it
kept us working that's for sure! And thanks for giving me the
opportunity to view that song in a different light. I don't know
why I never related it to James Dean and just left it at that. I
might have been able to appreciate the song a little more if I had.
It just goes to show you that we live in completely different
worlds, Blacks and Whites. We are drawn more closer together when
we are able to discuss our differences and learn more about each
other's cultures. Differences are good when they are understood!
Love,
Babs
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Subject: Phil on Drifter's 45
Sent: 11/07/98 7:22 am
Received: 11/07/98 10:48 am
From: R Teyes, RTXXXXXXXXcom
To; Frank Youngweth
From: Robert Ronette
Re: Phil on Drifter's 45
Well, any and all musicians will never be listed in credits for
any particular song...believe me, Phil has played either guitar or
percussion on countless songs...some of which we don't even
realize when they are played on the radio or we may even have at
home.
I remember at A&R studios in mid-Manhattan when he was
dubbing a number...think it was an unreleased Ronettes song (there
are more than 30 of those!) and he rang from the booth and told a
musician "this is how you're supposed to play these f...things!"
(maracas) and the musician walked out and Phil did that part of the
instrument. I was there!!! Incidentally, Phil played on numerous
Drifter 45s...for these I was not present. I understand he played
the muted triangle in "Spanish Harlem"...anything was possible
with Phil, and if he didn't get the right sound he wanted from a
musician, he was quick to send them home, and he paid them for
their time.
Since we were young teens, we would laugh at these antics of
Phil and he would send us out of the studio also! But Phil would
always either call our parents or our school, PS 101 in Manhattan,
when he needed our help. BTW, a sad note from Loida, (one of the
teens in our school choir along with Ivan,) who recently passed...
Phil loved her voice.
Those are my memories of the early 60s with Mr. Spector, as we had
to call him..
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Subject: Darlene Love & the Brothers
Sent: 11/07/98 8:44 am
Received: 11/07/98 10:48 am
From: CLAUDIA CUNNINGHAM, TXXXXXXXXv.net
Thank you, Barbara for responding to my query about Darlene's
vocals on "Zip-A-Dee Doo-Dah" with Bob B. Soxx and the Blue Jeans.
And speaking about all things Spector, does anyone know what the
Righteous Brothers are up to these days? I saw them several years
ago and they were just great.
I heard a couple of tales about them and I don't know if they are
apocryphal or true, but perhaps someone would know.
First, I heard that they got their name when after hearing a demo
they made someone said "That's righteous, brother!" And the second
is that Spector threw a party for everyone participating on "Lovin'
Feelin'" and I guess that would include none other than Cherilyn
Sarkisian LaPere Bono Allman i.e., Cher and hubby Sonny. There they
were, all the hand clappers, sax players, violinists, choir, the
whole production company. Champagne was opened, and the disc was
such a great one that for twelve hours that is all they played at
the party because they knew it was going to make history. Anyone
know?
Claudia
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Subject: re: Darlene Love
Sent: 11/07/98 1:10 pm
Received: 11/07/98 5:49 pm
From: Steve Marinucci, abbXXXXXXXX.com
>Yes, your detection was correct -- Darlene Love sang with Bob B.
>Soxx & The Blue Jeans just as she sang with everyone else when Phil
>recorded in California.
Her book, which is a very good read, by the way, has a discography
in the back that has some, but not all (that would take a book on
its own) of all the sessions she did. I recently interviewed her
and she was very nice to talk to. In her book, however, she makes
no bones about the fact that she didn't think all that much of
Phil Spector. Her closing comment about Phil to me was "I hope
he's living a nice life."
steve
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Subject: KPFK
Sent: 11/07/98 3:30 pm
Received: 11/07/98 5:49 pm
From: Javed Jafri, javedjXXXXXXXXnt.ca
>Subject: My New Radio Show & Japanese Boy
>From: David B Ponak
>Hi Folks,
>For those Spectropoppers in Southern California, I'm going to be
>starting a new radio show this weekend on 90.7 FM KPFK. The show
>is called "The Liquid Room" and will run from 3-6 AM on Friday
>Night/Sat. Morning.
Hey isn't this the Berkeley station that Jack Rieley was working
at just before he started his little stint with the Beach Boys. I
believe Jack met Brian Wilson for the first time when he
interviewed him at the station. The station had built up a kind of
notoriety back in the radical 60's as part of the Pacifica network.
Javed
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Subject: Marginal/UK Teenage Jamboree
Sent: 11/08/98 5:13 am
Received: 11/08/98 7:07 am
From: Francesc Sole, fXXXXXXXX.es
Thanks to everyone who provided info on how to get those Marginal
cds, I really appreciate it.
And you know, in that message I was asking about two comps called
UK Teenage Jamboree. Well, since nobody could give an answer, I
thought I'd post the song lists, because I have found them in a
record fair! Yikes! These cds are somewhat "marginal", btw...
UK Teenage Jamboree 1
Peak Hour - The Krew Kats
Golden Cage- John Fraser
Rock-achicka - Frankie Vaughn
Race with the devil - Russ Sainty w/Nu-Notes
Sunday - Tony & The Velvets
Heart Cry - Simon Scott & The All Nite Workers
Wrong - Lucky Starr
Josephine - Lee Diamond and the Cherokees
Betty, Betty, go steady with me - Stanley + Jeffrey Bird
Baby Talk - Bill + Brett Landis
Lover, please believe me - Grazina
That Someone - Pierce Rogers & The Overlanders
Double trouble - The Brook Borhters
Sometimes - Oliver Reed
Lost Love - Tim Connor
Lovin' Babe - The Bachelors
Big Fat Mama - Roy Young
Somebody to love - Brad Newman
Heaven's Plan - Mike Smith
Garden of happiness - Perry Ford
Sunday's child - Billy boyle
Tovarich - The Gladiators
Lonely Town - Robb Storme
I've got all the time in the world - Mike Preston
Crazy kind of love - Louise Cordet
Gonna go back to Jeannie - Little Lenny Davis
Blinded with love - Dean Shannon
Honest I do - Danny Storm
What would you do - Gerry Reno
A million Drums - Tony Sheverton
Turn the lights down, jenny - Grant Tracy
Home - Charlie Wolfe
UK TEENAGE JAMBOREE - VOL 2
Restless - Carl Danger
Come to me- Brian Howard
Lovin' Baby - Louise Cordet
Sue - Johnny Clive
I found Carol - David Hamber
Someone new - Terry Young
Stormy evening - Dean Parker & The Redcaps
Julie - Dowlands
Tell the other guy - Bryan Davies
Rumours - Danny Davis
Please don't take my heart - Craig Douglas
Angel - Day Brothers
Near you - Robb Storme
Just driftin' - Eddie Mannion
A love like you - Gary Lane
Please make up your mind - Brian Bentley
Endless sleep - Gene Ross
I'll step down - Lee Diamond & The Cherokees
Hey there senorita - Andy Cavell
Don't spread it around - Buddy Britten
I wonder - Lance Fortune
A touch of Venus - Johnny Angel
I like the way - Johnny Gentle
Miracles are happening to me - Nelson Keene
Teenage girlie blues - Carl Danger
Can't forget - Johnny Gavotte
Drums - Michale Holiday
Cindy Lou - Johnie Lee
Send me a girl - Dean Sterling & The Teen Beats
Teenage troubles - Nelson Keene
On such a night as this - Tony Allen
Come back to me - Geoff Goddard
See your muscles - Richy Wayne
Sorry for the long post, but I believe it's interesting and maybe
someone could comment on this, because there is no information in
the cds.
best,
francesc
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