____________________________________________________________ __________ __________ __________ __________ __________ S P E C T R O P O P __________ __________ __________ ____________________________________________________________ Volume #0286 July 3, 1999 ____________________________________________________________ Hearing the world's greatest artists is an everyday pleasureSubject: This is fun! Received: 07/03/99 3:25 am From: Tom Simon, tsixxxxm To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com Speaking as someone who only posts here occasionally, but reads the list often, I'd like to say something. I really enjoy hearing from Diane Renay, Gretchen Christopher, Carol Kaye, and all the others here. This is fun! Tom Simon --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: The nerve... Received: 07/03/99 3:25 am From: Carol Kaye, carolkxxxxink.net To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com >then I realised they'd lifted a bio I'd written on Patsy >Ann in "That Will Never Happen Again"! Just photocopied >the whole piece exactly as it appeared in the mag, shrunk >it to fit a CD sleeve, and hey, presto! Instant liner >notes! Ian, sorry to hear that about them outright copying your words for a pirated recording put out in Belgium....it's just amazing how these things are going on, such theft. I've heard (from Hal Blaine) also that they stole many of the Musicians' Union contracts (from our Union? not sure, but I know some are missing from the past, they are re-constituted now from Pension records, dups etc.), and they even printed them on the backs of record vinyl albums over in Japan complete with our names and social security numbers! Ian, sorry your work was purloined. Carol Kaye http://www.carolkaye.com/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: to Carol - Brian's early bass work Received: 07/03/99 3:25 am From: Big L, bixxxxmail.com To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com Carol - I've been meaning to ask you this for the longest - how do you rate Brian's bass playing on the early BBs cuts where he did play? I always loved the way he bent the bass notes, in fact, that's what grabs my ear even now when I listen to albums like "Surfin' Safari," and "Surfin' USA." I especially love "Miserlou." (Hey, there's another current TV jingle!) I think the way Brian used the bass line in his songs was a major component of his sound. I remember a BBs special back in the 70s where they asked Todd Rundgren what made Brian's music special, and all this acomplished musician could say was, "it's something about the bass." == Big L Check out my Radio Legends pages at: bixxxxmail.com http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/9816 --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: TO: William Stos - From: Diane Renay Received: 07/02/99 4:10 am From: Diane renay, CEIInvxxxxm To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com Dear Will: Thanks for the information regarding some of these oldies magazines publications. I sent an email to the editor of chat Darling, to inquire about buying back issues in which I was included. It would be nice for my memories to have the articles! I really hadn't any idea that my music was played outside of the US and Japan, where it was number #1 for 12 weeks on Japan's National music chart. Thanks: Diane Rennet <[:>) --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Gretchen Received: 07/03/99 3:25 am From: Diane renay, CEIInvxxxxm To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com Dear Gretchen: Just wanted to let you know that I absolutely loved "Come Softly To Me"! I was probably still in Jr. Hi, when your recording was a hit. I remember singing it over and over again with some of my school friends. It was during those days growing up, that I knew I wanted to be a professional singer, and dreamed of one day cutting a record that might also be played on the radio. Thanks for such wonderful memories, that hearing your song brings back to me and everyone else who loved it! Sincerely: Diane Renay <[:>) --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: to Gretchen - the Fleetwoods Received: 07/03/99 3:25 am From: Big L, bixxxxmail.com To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com Gretchen - I always thought the Fleetwoods were a British group. At least, they always sounded British to my ears. Especially "Mr. Blue." The pronunciation of "Mister" - "Meeester." Was there a deliberate attempt to sound a bit British, or was it just an accident? --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Gretchen, Barbara, and Gary Received: 07/03/99 3:25 am From: Jamie LePage, le_page_xxxxies.com To: Spectropop list, spectroxxxxies.com Dear Gretchen, Welcome to the list!!! I am so happy to be able to tell you directly how much Come Softly, Mr. Blue, and literally all the Fleetwoods recordings I have mean to me. What is it that makes the Fleetwoods records so special to me personally? To be sure, it isn't one thing in particular, such as the productions, the arrangements, the musicianship. It is an undefinable emotional reaction I have to the overall sound. If I ever had to make a DID list, the Fleetwoods 28 track EMI compilation would definitely be on it, right up there next to Pet Sounds! Have I made my point yet? I absolutely ADORE your records. The Fleetwoods are *always* on my personal top ten late night listening chart and have been for as long as I can remember. I will limit myself to two questions for now. Your first recording Come Softly was originally seven minutes long. Is that the version that was used for the single in an edited form, or did you re-record it again in its abridged arrangement? (2nd Q:) Teddy Bears - To Know Him is to Love Him was released September 22, 1958. Your record was released six months later on March 9, 1959. Was the Teddy Bears record an influence, or did the Fleetwoods innately develop a soft pop sound similar to what Phil was up to back in LA? If the latter, what was your reaction to hearing To Know Him Is To Love Him that winter of 1958 before Come Softly was released? (I know, that's three questions. So I lied!) On a related topic, to All - I read somewhere (thanks Marc!) that Spector may have borrowed the soft harmony style of the Teddy Bears from The Aquatones Top 25 hit "You". I've never heard this record. Any comments on the record itself or the allegation that Spector ripped it for To Know Him Is To Love Him? Jamie now playing - "Soft Sands" the Chordettes (another soft pop fave) --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: jingles Received: 07/03/99 3:25 am From: john rausch, jxxxxet To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com Back to the oldies as jingles thread... Here`s a few radio spots I found while going through my cassettes that are quite interesting: Hi C orange drink, using a reworded "he`s so fine" Chunky Soup ...Chunky`s Back, using reworded "my boyfriends back"... Granola Bars...Granola Whips, using reworking of "locomotion" These 3 presumably from mid to late `70`s,maybe early `80`s? and have to be heard to be believed! ridiculously inane, all they are doing is using the melody from the hits with their own words to sell the product. And last is a Macy`s radio ad sung by Ellie Greenwich using the Orlon`s Don`t hang up melody....this one comes from 1986. John Rausch Presenting The Fabulous Ronettxxxx//www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Studio/2469/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Bob Lind Received: 07/03/99 3:25 am From: Michael "Doc Rock" Kelly, docroxxxxom To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com >From "Liberty Records": [Bob Lind A Liberty distributor discovered Bob Lind, tells Lee Mendel. "We had a distributor in Denver named Bill Davis who found Bob Lind and really liked what he did. Bill brought Bob Lind over to the office and had him sit in Al's office playing 'Elusive Butterfly.' Everyone liked it and felt it was kind of Dylan-ish and kind of flower-power, mid-late '60s. It was great, but he was a one-hit artist. One record and off he went." The numbering system for World Pacific followed the pattern that had been begun when Liberty started out with 55001 and that had been continued when the acquired Imperial numbering system began with 66000. "Elusive Butterfly" was numbered 77808. The follow-up later in the year was 778---22. Both folow-ups charted out of the top- 40 range, with "Remember the Rain" (#64) doing very slightly better than "Truly Julie's Blues (I'll be There)" (#65).] Doc --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Bob Lind - Bruce Botnick - Sunset Sound Received: 07/03/99 3:25 am From: WASE RADIO, wxxxxorg To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com To DJ Jimmy Bee: I have the original Bob Lind album on World Pacific. On the back it lists Bruce Botnick as the engineer. I believed at the time he was working out at Sunset Sound in L.A. He was the gentleman who engineered all the Doors albums. The first Doors album was recorded on four track at Sunset. If you listen to it, you will notice that it has the same cavernous echo as the Bob Lind song. Sure it may sound like "Elusive Butterfly" may have been recorded at Gold Star, but that studio's echo was more distinct. For example the drums there had a more metallic echo, like someone beating on a pipe. The drums at Sunset has an almost distant echo. Listen to the opening drum slap on " Light My Fire" and hear what I mean. By the way Jack Nitzsche not only arranged on "Elusive Butterfly", he produced Bob Lind's two albums on World Pacific. By the way Bob Lind did have a third album released on Verve Folkways. It was not produced by Jack Nitzsche and it is a disappointment. Michael Marvin Wase Radio --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: VDP/Pet Sounds Received: 07/02/99 4:10 am From: Stig O'Hara, wuo0xxxx.se To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com Chuck wrote: >my favorite [VDP] song [...] is the Datsun car commercial >off of a Warner Bros sampler album in the early 70's. Oh yes, that's a brilliant song! I'm looking for another VDP commercial for Ice Capades (or something like that), has anyone heard it? Jamie: is the stereo remix of Pet Sounds the same as on the PS box set? T. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Top Ten Received: 07/03/99 3:25 am From: Richard Globman, rglobxxxxm.net To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com First of all, I've really enjoyed seeing everyone else's list. I've said "wow...what great songs" more times than I can remember (and at my age sometimes it's awfully hard to remember getting up in the morning). My own personal list: 1. Do You Believe In Love At First Sight - Dionne Warwick 2. My Girl - Temptations 3. With This Ring - Platters 4. Be Young, Be Foolish, Be Happy - Tams 5. You're More Than A Number In My Little Red Book - Drifters 6. Slow Boat To China - Ronnie Dove 7. Thank You, John - Willie T 8. Both Ends Against The Middle - Jackie Moore 9. Everything's Tuesday - Chairman of the Board 10. 39-21-46 - Showmen DICKYG --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: BOUNCE spectroxxxxies.com: Non-member submi Received: 03/13/99 8:38 am To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com ========= Start of forwarded message ========= Subject: Fourmost Singer O'Hara Found Dead 03:55 PM ET 06/30/99 Fourmost Singer O'Hara Found Dead LIVERPOOL, England (AP) _ Brian O'Hara, former singer and guitarist with the Fourmost, a 1960s Liverpool group that shared a manager with the Beatles and had hits with songs written by John Lennon and Paul McCartney, has been found dead, police said. He was 58. Liverpool police said O'Hara was found hanged Sunday at his home in the Wavertree area of the northern English port city. An inquest will convene Thursday. Formed in 1962, the Fourmost was managed by Brian Epstein, who also managed the Beatles. The group had half a dozen hit singles from 1963-65, including ``Hello Little Girl'' and ``I'm In Love'' by Lennon and McCartney, and ``A Little Loving,'' by Russ Alquist. They made their public debut still using their original name, the Four Jays, at Liverpool's famous Cavern Club in 1961, just three weeks before the Beatles' famous first performance there. By the time Epstein signed the Fourmost, the group consisted of Billy Hatton on bass, Mike Millward on guitar and vocals, Dave Lovelady on drums and O'Hara. The band played top venues like the London Palladium, where they shared the bill with Frankie Vaughan, Cilla Black and Tommy Cooper. In 1966, they played on a bill topped by the Beatles and the Rolling Stones at the Empire Pool in Wembley, London. Funeral details were not immediately known. ========== End of forwarded message ========== --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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