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Volume #0288 June 16, 1999
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We recommend you to consult your record dealer
Subject: novelty exotica vs. "serious" exotica,
Pet Sounds & Pet Sounds
Received: 07/03/99 2:34 pm
From: Brad Elliott, surfxxxxline.net
To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com
Tobias (the man of 1000 names) wrote:
>Actually, if you are reading this, Brad Elliott, if you
>ever get around to interview Brian Wilson some more for
>the BB reissues, it'd be great if you could ask him about
>Martin Denny/Arthur Lyman/Les Baxter. People are always
>going "oh, Phil Spector and The Four Freshmen" when they
>talk about Brian's influences but listening to Pet Sounds
>and most notably Smile, it IS obvious Brian must've
>listened to some of these exotica artists! It'd make an
>interesting footnote in the reissue-booklet atleast :)
Your request has been duly noted. FYI, among the photos
that Jasper Dailey took at the SMILE sessions is one of
Brian sitting in Western Recorders with none other than
Eden Ahbez. How's that for an indication of what Brian was
listening to at the time?!
Jamie LePage wrote:
>I must say it's a little spooky to see Brad's notes
>formatted in (basically) the same graphic lay out used for
>David Leaf's notes on the first Linett reissue, though!
That's called a cost-saving measure. But if you'll count
pages, you'll see they had to add a couple more to
accommodate my wordiness. So I think I kind of blew any
savings they had planned! :-)
Surf's up!
Brad
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Subject: Sonny DiNunzio...!
Received: 07/07/99 1:06 am
From: Greg Matecko, motexxxxma.com
To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com
Sonny who?
I apologize for being late on this one, folks, but
hopefully it will be of some interest.
Stewart Mason mentioned picking up a few Co&Ce 45's by the
Vogues recently. The gentleman mentioned in the header had
a career that was intertwined with the Vogues.
The song "True Lovers" was written by Sonny, and
originally recorded by him as part of a Pittsburgh outfit
called The 4 Chaps. Sonny was also lead singer of a group
called The Fenways, who made a little bit of national
noise with a song called "Walk."
The Fenways later morphed into an outfit called The Racket
Squad, who released two LP's on the Jubilee label. The
first LP was self-titled, and the second was called
"Corners of Your Mind." Prior to recording for Jubilee, the
Racket Squad was working with producer Nick Cenci (the "Co"
of Co&Ce). They had recorded a Tony Hatch/Pet Clark song
called "You're The One." Legend has it that Cenci thought
this would suit one of his other acts a little better.
Sonny DiNunzio's vocals were wiped from the recording, and
The Vogues' career kicked into high gear!
Yep, the Racket Squad was the backing band on the Vogues'
"You're The One." There are two versions of the song, one
with and one without the string section in the break.
Some sources claim that Sonny felt that he was robbed of
national fame by Cenci's stunt, but chances are a
DiNunzio-led version of the song would not have had the
same impact.
Sonny put together a lounge act called Sebastian, and
continued to play the Pittsburgh area until his death in
an auto accident in the early 70's.
Collectibles Records has just released a Racket Squad CD,
which includes both LP's and some singles, including the
fabulous "That's How Much I Love My Baby," IMHO one of
Sonny's finest moments.
Sonny was also the cousin of legendary Pittsburgh DJ Terry
Lee, who was responsible for The Fantastic DeeJays and The
Swamp Rats, considered by many to be one of the founding
fathers of punk. Terry released an LP called "Sonny"
shortly after DiNunzio's death, with a shot of him on the
cover decked out Elvis-style in a jumpsuit. The LP
featured some kinda-loungey remakes and originals.
On a related topic, some collectors may be aware of a
Swamp Rats 45 on Co&Ce, which is kind of unusual, since
all their other releases were on St. Clair. According to
Terry, he signed the Swamp Rats over to Nick Cenci in
exchange for a second chance at an audition for a
Pittsburgh TV show called "Come Alive," which could be
described as a local version of "American Banstand." Terry
got the hosting gig, and Nick got a decimated version of
the Swamp Rats. The band broke up shortly thereafter.
Some of the Swamp Rats, Deejays, and Fenways material can
be found on a comp CD called "Burghers" which is available
from either Get Hip (www.gethip.com) or Jim's (www.jims.com).
All of the above mentioned CD's are all done from
records.
Greg Matecko
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Subject: Van Dyke Parks
Received: 07/07/99 1:06 am
From: Don Richardson, drichxxxxcom
To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com
Since there have been a number of comments about Van Dyke,
I thought I would add my two-cents.
Jamie, it was wonderful to read your account of Van Dyke's
show. I was surprised he didn't come up with half a string
quartet to embellish his songs. Not meaning to diminish
the talent of the two players, it would have been a great
addition to have a cello and violin included. Van Dyke
brought Leland Sklar and Grant Geissman with him. For
those who don't recognize Grant Geissman's name, he is a
phenomenal talent on his own as a guitarist who is
probably best known for his creation of the classic guitar
solo on Chuck Mangione's "Feels So Good."
It was quite a kick to learn Van Dyke performed "Heroes
and Villains." Until the last couple years, Van Dyke's
solo live performances over the last 35 years could
probably be counted on the fingers of two hands. While I
cannot say with certainty that he has never previously
performed a "SMiLE '-era song in public, I can say that
I've never heard he has ever done so before. When I
learned last summer he was going to perform at the Carl
Wilson Benefit show, I wrote and asked him what he was
going to play. In asking, I also took a big chance at the
end and suggested that with his current singing voice, and
the musicians that were available at the show, he could
pull-off a darned good version of "Heroes and Villains"---
in my opinion. The fact that he went into the attic to
retrieve H&V may just be a coincidence. At the same time,
it could show that he is listening.
As to Van Dyke's early singles, I may be able to shed some
uninformed shade on that topic. Some of the earlier singles
were released by MGM, not WB. Therefore, it probably would
have been costly to secure use licenses for them on his
recent re-issues. His recent CD re-issues were probably
projected to be marginally profitable, at best. A summary
of singles (and others never officially recorded):
1. Come to the Sunshine (Parks)/Farther Along (Hopi Indians)
(Traditional Adapt. Parks) MGM-T-9982 (1966)
2. Number Nine (Beethoven/Adapt. Arr. Parks)/Do What You Wanta
(Parks/Hutton) MGM-1301 (1966)
3. Donovan's Colours-Mono (Leitch/Adapt. Arr. Parks)/ Donovan's
Colours-Stereo (Leitch/Adapt. Arr. Parks) WB-7026 (1967)
4 . Music for a Datsun TV Commercial (Parks)
5. Music for Ice Capades
6. Out on a Rolling Sea (When Jesus Speaks to Me) (Joseph Spence)/The
Eagle and Me (Arlen/Harburg) WB- 7409 (1970)
7. Back on the Track (Parks) (1985)
8. Amazing Grace (PD-Arr. Parks) (either 1975 or 1998)
Numbers 1A/B and 2A/B are not likely to be released unless
MGM is in a benevolent mood. Number 3A appeared on his
first album Number 3B Has not appeared anywhere to my
knowledge. It was reported to be on Danny Hutton's album
"Pre-Dog Night", but I cannot confirm it. Number 4 appears
on WB Promotional (Loss Leader) "The 1969 Warner/Reprise
Songbook" (PRO 331, 1969) (Not likely to be re-released
because the rights are probably owned by Nissan) Number 5
appears on WB Promotional (Loss Leader) "The 1969 Warner/
Reprise Record Show" (PRO 336, 1969) (Not likely to be
re-released because the rights are probably owned by the
"Ice Capades".) Numbers 6A appears on "Looney Tunes &
Merrie Melodies" (PRO 423, 1970) Number 6A and 6B both are
included on March, 1999's, Rykodisc re-issues of Van Dyke's
first 3 albums. Number 7 Was never recorded to my knowledge.
It was composed for the Japan Racing Society for a
parade at Disney, Tokyo. Number 8 (Parts 1 & 2) are
included on the March, 1999, Rykodisc re-issues.
So most of the early singles to which he owns sole rights
are probably included in March's Rykodisc re-issues. The
reason some of the other songs may have made it to a WB
record may be due to the fact that they were categorized
as "promotional material." My understanding is that there
have always been different rules regarding use licenses
for Promo releases.
I would also question his remark to a record store owner
regarding his earlier works no longer meeting his high
standard. It sounds more like his trademark response to a
question to which he doesn't care to visit. Not that the
topic is uncomfortable, but rather many interviewers try
and enter the "SMiLE" era topic via that particular back
door. I know that when he and I spent an hour going
through his 200+ record discography, I never sensed he was
embarrassed or shamed by any of the songs. In fact, he
seemed to have some fun revisiting those early years and
had some interesting comments on a few.
Sorry for the length. I don't comment often, but when I do
I make up for it.
--Don Richardson
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Subject: Bob Lind
Received: 07/07/99 11:29 pm
From: Ian Chapman, iandxxxxnet.co.uk
To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com
Jeffrey Thames wrote:
>For what it's worth, I recommend the EMI compilation *You
>Might Have Heard My Footsteps: The Best [sic] of Bob Lind*
>from (I believe) 1995. It contains both World Pacific
>albums in their entirety, plus a few extra goodies. I
>bought it primarily for "Elusive Butterfly" (a favorite
>since first listen) and was not disappointed in the least
>by the other tracks. "It's Only My Love" shoulda made him
>a two-hit wonder at the very least...
Jeffrey,
Likewise "Remember the Rain"....thanks for the
recommendation of this collection. I only have a few of
Bob's tracks, and I like them all, so this CD sounds like
an essential purchase. Does it also include "Hey Nellie
Nellie", which he cut for Verve Folkways? I recently
picked this up as a 45, and was knocked out by the
combination of the echoey production and Bob's pure voice.
One of the best "social comment" folk records ever, in my
opinion.
Ian
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Subject: Sunshine Pop, UK Style!
Received: 07/07/99 11:29 pm
From: David Bash, Bashxxxxm
To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com
Hi Everyone,
I wanted to let you know about 2 new great CDs on Sequel
Records that many on this list would love. They're called
"Look At The Sunshine (British Summer Tyme Pop)" and
"Dreamtime (British Sunshine Pop)", and they each feature
30 tracks of wonderful late 60s UK pop from the Pye and
Picadilly Vaults. There are tracks by bigger name artists
like The Searchers, The Montanas, The Rockin Berries, and
and The Ivy League as well as more obscure lights like The
Knack (no, not that one!), Sands Of Time, The Chosen Few,
and The Factotums, plus many others.
Fans of The Tokens, The Yellow Balloon, The Turtles, The
Parade, and The Mamas and The Papas, to name a few, will
eat these up!
--
Spectropop Rules!!!!!
Take Care,
David Bash
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Subject: Re: To: David Feldman From: Diane Renay
Received: 07/07/99 11:29 pm
From: Diane renay, CEIInvxxxxm
To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com
Hi David:
In answer to why "Navy Blue" was so popular in Japan, I
can only guess. From what I have heard, the Japanese men
love Blonde Caucasian looking women, and maybe if that is
so, then all the Japanese women would like to look like
that, ha, ha!!!!! Honestly, I can't really give you a
correct answer, cause I don't really know why it was such
a bit hit there for so long a time!
I was asked to tour Japan for 3 weeks, but because I was
still just a kid in hi school, I declined to go. Also, I
wasn't too crazy for flying, so the thought of being in an
airplane, flying over the ocean for all those hours, was
not something that I wanted to do!
I had a terrible experience once when I was flying in a
private plane, that was owned by a DJ, who had a TV show
in Pittsburgh. Every weekend after his Saturday show, he
would fly the recording artists that had appeared on his
show, to a live show he held Sat. nights in another state.
I was in his plane with Lou Christie, who sat next to me,
and Bobby Goldsboro, who was sitting behind us, when the
plane filled up with smoke, and the engine started to
sputter! We started to go down, and by the grace of GOD we
glided in and were able to land at a privately owned
airport. I saw my whole life go before me, and we all
thought we were goners!!! After this terrible experience,
I couldn't get on a plane for the next couple of months,
until Bob Crewe had a talk with me, and told me that if I
wanted to continue my singing career, I had better get
back on a plane! Till this day, I don't like flying!
Diane Renay <[:>)
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Subject: Re: Sunset Sound & Brian on Bass
Received: 07/07/99 11:29 pm
From: Greg Liebzeit, gliebzxxxxcom
To: Spectro Pop, spectroxxxxies.com
Well, I just had to pop out from lurking on reading your
wonderful post, Carol. What an enlightening view of Brian
in the studio! I don't believe I've yet read anything that
put me THERE in the studio with Brian, Chuck and the
Wrecking Crew as you did in your description of Brian's
demeanor and abilities in the studio and away from it.
Your descriptions of him on the floor and then 'forever'
in the booth are gems. Also, his ability at the board is
probably not that well known. Your emphasis on Brian's
business demeanor, humor and happy persona are what you
have said in all interviews that I recall reading. The key
phrase for me was "hey, he was young & having fun, why
shouldn't he play piano in a sand-box, what's wrong with
that?" I'm a few years younger than you (just a few) and
left the LA area in the early 60s, but the feeling you
convey is perfect! The way to perceive how people really
reacted in those times is to strip away all the 'modern'
conceptions of weirdness and hipness and see it from the
age that it was lived.
The mention of the groove that Brian shows while playing
bass in concert videos was another high point for me. He
must have been awesome to see in concert in the early
years of the BB.
Thank you for your posts... and for all the terrific
music that you've played for us.
Best regards,
Greg L
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Subject: Midas Touch
Received: 07/07/99 11:29 pm
From: Paul Urbahns, Paulurbxxxxm
To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com
In a message dated 7/6/99 1:08:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
spectroxxxxies.com writes:
> Anyone heard of [Midas Touch]? And do they have music readily
> available?
I remember one Midas Touch album being issued, and we
played songs off it when I was working for an MOR station
in the late 60s. It was on Decca but I thought the songs
they did were covers. They had a great sound similiar to
Cufflinks (Tracy), and Peppermint Rainbow (Will you be
Staying After Sunday). Like the other two groups I
mentioned (also on Decca I believe) their masters are lost
in the Music Cemetery of America (MCA Records) vault
probably never to be heard again. Check the used record
shops the Midas Touch album I remember is probabl there,
it sold fairly well.
Paul URbahns
paulurbxxxxm
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Subject: New Person
Received: 07/07/99 11:29 pm
From: Bob Alcivar, balcixxxxink.net
To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com
Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com
Hi List People,
Thank you Carol Kaye for letting me know and getting me on
this list. I'm new kid on the block, so don't know too much
about all of this tech communication, although because of
Carol's recommendation, I have Bob Lincoln setting up my
new web site, which is also a new thing for me. It's
amazing the way things evolve. All I wanted to do was
compose/arrange and produce music, but here I am
entrenched into the world of hi-tech. As I'm learning,
though, I'm enjoying it a lot, and I look forward to '
talking' to you people out there.
Bob Alcivar <http://www.alcivarmusic.com>
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Subject: Newbeats
Received: 07/07/99 11:29 pm
From: Ian Chapman, iandxxxxnet.co.uk
To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com
John Rausch wrote:
>Anyone have any info on the group that was the Newbeats?
>They had a hit with Bread and Butter, but my favorite was
>Run Baby Run and I came across a great find. The Run Baby
>Run lp in stereo.
John, Sequel put out "The Best of the Newbeats" on CD a
couple of years back, which I think is still on catalogue
(NEX CD 231). 29 tracks, including a couple by the Mathis
Brothers/Dean & Mark, and some solo Larry Henley tracks.
The liner notes give a full account of the group's history,
too long for me to duplicate here, but a few extracts:
The group was Larry Henley (with the falsetto), and Dean &
Mark Mathis. Larry had performed with the Mathis brothers
as early as '62, but it wasn't until '64 that the Newbeats
debuted. Before that, both Larry and the Mathis Brothers
were signed to Hickory as separate acts. The original
acetate of "Bread & Butter", their biggest hit, contained
no falsetto part......it was Dean Mathis who came up with
the arrangement that we're familiar with. The group stayed
with Hickory until '72, then had a single on Buddah in '73,
and their final one on Playboy in '74. Larry went on as a
solo for several labels, but is now more well-known as a
songwriter. This is the guy who wrote "Wind Beneath My
Wings". By the way, Barbara Mills - who cut some great
records at Hickory, including "Queen of Fools" and "Make
It Last" - was Larry's sister.
John, I'd cite "Run Baby Run" as my favourite Newbeats
track too, along with the similar "Crying My Heart Out"
(sadly not on the CD). An interesting footnote: a harmony
group called the Weekends did the oldie "Canadian Sunset"
on Columbia. in EXACTLY the same stompy, unrelenting style
as "Run Baby Run" and I do mean exactly....in fact, you'd
swear they'd used the same backing track!! Well worth
looking out for - produced by Morty Craft (Columbia 4-
43597).
Ian
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Subject: Newbeats
Received: 07/07/99 11:29 pm
From: Paul Urbahns, Paulurbxxxxm
To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com
CC: jxxxxet
John asked about the Newbeats. I have "best Of The
newbeats" CD issued on Sequel it has 29 cuts including an
interview with the newbeats by Jimmy O'Neill (of Shindig
fame). A quick glance over the liners indicates all the
songs were recorded in Nashville at either Columbia
Studios, or later Hickory/Accuff Rose Studio except for
two tracks recorded at Soundship Studio Nashville. All the
songs were published by Acuff-Rose. I do know they didn't
play on their records but used some of Nashvilles best
studio musicians of the period.
Paul Urbahns
paulurbxxxxm
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Subject: Re: Newbeats
Received: 07/07/99 11:29 pm
From: WASE RADIO, wxxxxorg
To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com
To John Rausch:
The Newbeats were a vocal trio from Nashvillle, consisting
of Larry Henley and brothers Dean and Mark Mathis. The
group had four top forty hits, all on Hickory. Their
biggest was their debut, "Bread and Butter" which peaked
at number two around September 1964, They followed with "
Everything's All right" (#16 Dec. 1964), and "Break Away (
>From That Boy) (#40 March 1965). Their final final top 40
hit was "Run Baby Run Back Into My Arms) which peaked at #
12 around November 1965.
An interesting curios. In early 1967, They recorded a very
interesting cover version of Nat Stuckey's 1966 country hit
"Sweet Thing". The song was a top 20 local hit in
Louisville Ky. As a matter of fact, I found a used copy of
this record at a second hand record store. As you may or
may not know, Larry Henley co-wrote the song "Wind Benath
My Wings" which was intially a country hit for Gary Morris
in 1984, and was a giant hit for Bette Midler in 1989.
Spectropop is great!
Michael G. Marvin
WASE radio,
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Subject: Do You Believe In Love At First Sight
Received: 07/07/99 11:29 pm
From: Ian Chapman, iandxxxxnet.co.uk
To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com
Stig O'Hara asked:-
> 1. Do You Believe In Love At First Sight - Dionne Warwick
Who wrote the song? Bacharach?
Hi Stig,
Interesting, this one. No, not a Bacharach song. It was
penned in the UK by Roker/Shury/McDonald/Rae, and it was
Phil Swern, Ron Roker and the late Gerry Shury who
produced the original version for Britain's Polly Brown on
GTO in '76. Anyone familiar with Polly Brown (once lead
singer of Pickettywitch) will know she has often been
accused of being a Dionne Warwick soundalike....indeed,
she has a similar voice. In a strange twist, Dionne
covered "Do You Believe In Love At First Sight" for
Warners.........so we had Dionne covering a song that had
originally been performed by someone who sounded just like
her!!
Phil Swern & Gerry Shury were a writing/producing team who
came up with a whole lot of bouncy 70s "mock-Motown" pop
tracks, including nearly all the tracks on Polly Brown's
GTO album. (On which can be found her original version of
"S.O.S", which the Manhattan Transfer would later cover on
their "Coming Out" album.
Ian
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Subject: Re: Do You Believe In Love At First Sight
Received: 07/07/99 11:29 pm
From: DJ JimmyB, DJJimmyxxxxm
To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com
In a message dated 7/6/99 12:59:36 PM, you wrote:
>1. Do You Believe In Love At First Sight - Dionne Warwick
I go nuts over this one. It popped up on a Rare Soul
Compilation on Warner I believe, and it was a 45 as well
which I think I have! Its Mega-Beach, a real
finger-snapper, and really should have put Dionne back on
the musical map strong but something went wrong.........Is
it too late to turn back now?...
Jimmy Botticelli
"Jimmy's Easy" airs on WMBR-FM, Cambridge, MA 88.1
Tuesdays from 6-8 am. It can be heard in Real Time if you
download Real Audio and calculate where you're at in
relation to Cambridge, timewise, and go to www.wmbr.org
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Subject: Mick Patrick
Received: 07/07/99 11:30 pm
From: Ian Chapman, iandxxxxnet.co.uk
To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com
Will Stos wrote:
>Ian, do you know if Mick has some back issues of his
>fanzines to sell? I'd love to buy some. Does he have email
>yet, or could I pass a message along to him through you?
>I'd love to chat with the guy who indirectly, taught me
>75% I know about girl groups through liner notes.
Hi Will,
I know I've already covered this in a recent e-mail to you,
but in case anyone else is interested, I believe there
is a small number of the last Philately available, and the
60s Brit girls double-issue of "That Will Never Happen
Again". Mick doesn't yet have e-mail, but I'm happy to
pass on any messages or any enquiries - just drop me an
e-mail.
Ian
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Subject: TRM, That Will Never Happen Again, Philately
Received: 07/07/99 11:29 pm
From: Jimmy Cresitelli, Jimmyxxxxm
To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com
Hi everyone... a while ago I posted a note saying that I
had many issues of the above-named magazines, and asked
Ian to get info for me re the copying of the items for
interested parties. Ian, I hadn't heard back; what is the
policy about that? I know responses re the Phil Spector
Appreciation Society are long in coming... : ) [Mick still
owes me the last year's worth of Philately... tell him I
said hello!] I'd be happy to share the thousands of cool
girl group facts and notes in those mags if it's all right
with the original publishers. The pictures, the stories,
the discographies would make any collector drool! (I
realize TRM was from a different source.) Cheers to all!
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Subject: Welcome aboard
Received: 07/07/99 11:29 pm
From: DJ JimmyB, DJJimmyxxxxm
To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com
In a message dated 7/6/99 12:59:36 PM, you wrote:
>Thanks, Jimmy Bee for putting me on to this list!
Welcome aboard Mingo-go and join me in reading some great
information and reflection from some folks who were there
in studio or in spirit..
Softly,
Jimmy Botticelli
...Hey all, this woman's got some chutzpah!
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Subject: Guy Mitchell
Received: 07/07/99 11:30 pm
From: Shelby Riggs, xxxxi.net
To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com
I am attaching the obituaries for everyone's information.
Guy Mitchell passed away in Las Vegas last Friday (7-2-99).
I had the honor to know this great performer. He's
another example of the great fifties performers that time
has overlooked. He consistently charted on the charts from
1951 to 1959. Not many singers have achieved what Guy did.
I saw Guy at his last performance on Labor Day Weekend in
1993. He did an excellent performance, complete with a 32
piece orchestra,and back-up singers. Guy, we'll miss you,
but your songs will last a long time in our memories.
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