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Volume #0317 September 6, 1999
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The new direction for the new sounds
Subject: "Rosecrans Blvd"
Received: 09/05/99 11:24 pm
From: Scott Bauman, ScottBxxxxxl.msn.com
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
Mr. LePage wrote:
>Manhattan Beach is a popular Orange County coastline
>relatively close to the airport, spacious and clean.
Jamie, you really need to spend more time in L.A.!
Manhattan Beach is in Los Angeles County, not Orange
County.
Also, I'm surprised nobody has mentioned this yet, but
the name of the street is really Rosecrans Avenue, not
Rosecrans Boulevard.
-- Scott
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Subject: Revola
Received: 09/04/99 12:31 pm
From: Dave Mirich, Dmxxxxxcom
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
Does anyone have the web address for Revola?
Thanks
Dave Mirich
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Subject: To Know Him Is To Love Him
Received: 09/05/99 11:24 pm
From: Paul Urbahns, Pauluxxxxxcom
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
If there are any various artist CD's on the market that
you have been wanting to buy that contain this song by
the Teddy Bears, better buy them now as they will probably
go out of release when existing stocks are sold out. I have
a few contacts in the music business and one of them told
me the rights to this song and the actual master (as I
understand it) by the Teddy Bears is now held by spector/
abkco and no longer available for licensing. Looks like
Phil maybe buying up rights to his old productions so he
can take them out of release.
Paul Urbahns
pauluxxxxxcom
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Subject: Paris Sisters
Received: 09/04/99 12:31 pm
From: xxxxxcom
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
The Paris Sisters "I Love How You Love Me" that you heard
was probably the version that Mike Curb produced for "The
Golden Hits Of The Paris Sisters" LP on Sidewalk. The LP
was produced by Mike Curb & Clancy Grass who I think was
married to Priscilla. The LP is rerecordings of earlier
records and some originals but has a killer version of Be
My Boy worth the price of admission.
Does anyone know anything about the Paris Sisters LP "Sing
THE Glass House" on Unifilms? Another Mike Curb production
with Richie Podolor & Clancy Grass.
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Subject: I Met Him On A Sunday/Paris Sisters
Received: 09/04/99 12:31 pm
From: Stos, William, xxxxx.tyenet.com
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
Hi, my enquiry is about a later version of the Paris
Sisters famous hit record "I Love How You Love Me". I
have the original already but the other day I heard an
almost identical version with an instrumental break in
the middle of the song. Any ideas on where I could get this
recording?
There's a later version of the song on one of the volumes
of the Girl Group Sound:Darlings of the 60s. That could be
it! Very close to the original except for that change.
In response to the other version of I Met Him On A Sunday,
many girl groups performed the song since it was very
popular and easy to do. The Shirelles recorded a version
almost 10 years later called I met Him On A Sunday '66.
It's more Spectoresque than the original. Could that be it?
Will
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Subject: Info on "I Met Him On A Sunday" & Girls
Received: 09/04/99 12:31 pm
From: Jimmy Cresitelli, Jimxxxxxcom
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
Hi!
There's an original version of the song that I have on a
Decca 45RPM. Much starker, very raw and "doo-wop." You
really can tell that the girls wrote it and recorded it
(practically!) on their own-- it's very honest and
charming.The remake from the late 60s (I think that's the
time frame) is more "Spectorian." I love those Shirelles.
Great songs; it's a same their management apparently
screwed them over. They worked very, very hard all those
years, touring their legs off... And they always seemed
more "grown up" than the other groups. Those late 50s
girl-groups all did, actually; the Chantels etc. When you
compare voices and group pics to girl groups from 1963-64,
many of them seem and sound much younger in my opinion:
babies in beehives! (What a great title for a study of
early 60s girl-group pop.) Of course, too, 1962-1963 was
the heyday of the high-pitched voice... witness the
closing note on "I Had A Dream." Mirabile visu!
Y'all in the USA have a great Labor Day weekend!
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Subject: Laura Nyro's "It's Gonna Take a Miracle" album
Received: 09/04/99 12:31 pm
From: David Feldman, fexxxxxnderables.com
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
Robert Bates, a prince among men, says:
> I'm sure you're all familiar with the Shirelles song "I
> Met Him on a Sunday" -- at least the one that was on the
> Rhino Records girl groups comp. A neighbor of mine had a
> version of that song that was ten times better than that
> one, on an old record. (I forgot how it was better -- I
> just remember it was.) Anyone know any information about
> this, or where I can find it?
Rob,
Might you be thinking of Laura Nyro's version (backed by
"Labelle," aka Patti LaBelle & the BlueBelle's) on her
"It's Gonna Take a Miracle" album? It's a great cover. I
love the original, I love Nyro's version even more. One of
the distinctive touches of the Nyro version -- some of it
is a cappella.
Dave Feldman
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Subject: I Met Him On A Sunday (do ronde ronde)
Received: 09/04/99 12:31 pm
From: WASE RADIO,xxxxxt.org
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
To Robert Bates:
If you're thinking about the version of "I Met Him On A
Sunday" which has the "do ronde, do ronde ronde", it was
on "The Very Best of the Shirelles" released on United
Artists records in 1974 or 1975. During the nostalgia boom
of the early 1970s, United Artists released a whole series
of albums by artist who recorded for Liberty, Imperial and
of course United Artists. I couldn't understand why the
Shirelles would have an album released on that label, The
real oddity to the Shirelles comp is that all the songs
were in mono. After all "Soldier Boy", "Will You Still
Love Me Tomorrow" anf Foolish Little Girl" were issued in
stereo. Well good luck in finding it.
Michael G. Marvin
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Subject: "I Met Him on a Sunday"-"My World Fell Down"
Received: 09/04/99 12:31 pm
From: Billy G. Spradlin, bgsprxxxxxhlink.net
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
Bates, Robert (Cahners-NYC), roxxxxxers.com wrote:
>I'm sure you're all familiar with the Shirelles song "I
>Met Him on a Sunday"...A neighbor of mine had a version
>of that song that was ten times better...where I can find
>it?
Dear Rob:
I believe the Shirelles cut 3 versions of this song. The
1958 original on Tiara Records (re-issued by Decca) that
some writer has called "The First Girl Group Record"...any
comments? (My Guess: The Chantels "Maybe")
Then they cut a version with a similar arrangement in the
early 60's as a LP track in Stereo. I don't know what
Scepter LP it originally came from. I have it on a budget
CD Compilation by Highland records.
Then in 1966 they recut the song again as "Met Him on A
Sunday--'66" (Scepter 12132) in a Awesome pounding
Wall-of-Sound production! Its my favorite version of this
song.
This could be the record you're referring to. I first
heard it on a United Artists "Very Best of The Shirelles"
LP in the 70's. My problem is that most CD re-issues I
have of this song use a weak sounding stereo mix. I have
yet to find the original mono version on CD. So you have
three different versions of the same song, and you never
know what version you're going to get when you buy one of
many Shirelles CD compilations out there. Too bad none of
their post-"Foolish Little Girl" records were hits, for
most of them were excellent records. I guess Scepter was
paying more attention to Dionne Warwick instead of the
group that put the company on the map.
Michael wrote:
>This song was released as a single, and got some spotty
>air play on WKLO in Louisville, but never charted. A shame.
>A great song. I need to find that album again. It is
>stored at my in-law's house.
Dear Michael:
You should get the Sundazed CD Re-issue of "Present Tense"
because it contains the original Mono 45 Version of "My
World Fell Down" plus some amazing out-takes. Just my
Recommendation!
Billy G. Spradlin
29 Rim Road
Kilgore, Texas 75662
Email: bgsprxxxxxhlink.net
Homepage: http://home.earthlink.net/~bgspradlin/
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Subject: My Collage Fell Down
Received: 09/04/99 12:31 pm
From: Jack Madani, Jack_Mxxxxxk12.nj.us
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
Michael writes:
>Years later I bought the Sagittarius album on Columbia (CS
>9644). I listened to "My World Fell Down" which led off
>side two. And to my amazement, the audio collage and the
>slow section with the organ and vocals were missing.
Michael,
The Sundazed reissue (SC 11053) includes both the lp and
45 versions of that song. There are also a mess o'
unreleased trax and demos to round out the disc. It's a
heckuva record.
jack
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Subject: Re: "My World Fell Down" by Sagittarius
Received: 09/04/99 12:31 pm
From: Ron Weekes, Wexxxxxs.edu
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
The version you are talking about with the audio montage
is the single version. The LP version does not have the
audio montage. Head to www.sundazed.com and buy their CD
of "Present Tense". It has both versions plus some other
great rare tracks.
Ron Weekes
Landlocked in Idaho!
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Subject: Re: Rosecrans lyric (and various digest stuff)
Received: 09/04/99 12:31 pm
From: Mr. Fulton, wuxxxxxet.se
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
> Volume #0316 September 3, 1999
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> Expressing the feelings of the young mind of today
This is really good! Spectropop music really expresses my
feelings today! I don't care that everything was recorded
30-40 years ago - it's still new and fresh to me. For
example, I heard my first Four Seasons song *last week* on
a mixtape (good one, Jack :-)). Most of the things discussed
on this list are recordings that I have only known about for
like, a year at the most, if I even have heard of it! So keep
those posts a-comin', listees - to quote Ralph Wiggum: "Lisa,
I'm leardning" [sic] :-)
Michael G. Marvin wrote re: the Sagittarius' "My World..."
>Years later I bought the Sagittarius album on Columbia (CS
>9644). I listened to "My World Fell Down" which led off
>side two. And to my amazement, the audio collage and the
>slow section with the organ and vocals were missing. I
>thought I lost my mind.
You probably already know this but you can find the single
version on the CD-reissue of "Present Tense".
Harvey Williams was kind enough to post the complete
Rosecrans Blvd lyric, and also wrote:
>I eagerly await your cover version!!
Uhh...what do you mean? Can you read minds, Harvey? :-) I
didn't say anything in my message about covering "
Rosecrans Blvd"! *But*, I was definitely *thinking* about
it earlier the same day, picking out the song on the piano
(which I might add took over one hour; the song changes key
several times, and some of the chords are quite odd). As a
matter of fact, I thought "Wouldn't it be great to do a CD
of Spectropop-listees performing their favourite Spectropop
songs, just like the Pet Sounds-list has succesfully done
with the Beach Boys' music?" What do you people think?
Jamie LePage, in a moment of Freudian proportions, deeply
analysed Rosecrans' lyric, and also wrote:
>Hey Toby, you wrote you were disappointed with this song!
>Starting to come around? :-)
Actually, yes. I had only listened to the 5th Dimension's
version, which I still think is rather dull, but then I
noticed Johhny Rivers also has a version of the song on "
The Jim Webb Songbook", and that one is fantastic! It
sparkles like a bottle of champagne on a New Year's eve :-)
Rivers' version is just more powerful and full of life
than the 5D's. The addition of *drums* was a great move.
>>She was a stewardess, you know.
>>Shot down on a non-combatant mission.
This part is interesting. Does Webb literally mean "shot
down", as in being shot down with a weapon, or is he
speaking metaphorically about shooting the stewardess down
by saying he doesn't love her? And what can "non-combatant
mission" refer too? Maybe it's just their sexual but
emotionally empty relationship in other words....and by
"shooting" her "down", he terminates their relationship for
good.
>As for me personally, well, I have a few "Rosecrans Blvd."
>exit signs in my memory too.
Do subway stations count? :-)
Tobias
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