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Volume #0316 September 3, 1999
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Expressing the feelings of the young mind of today
Subject: "I Met Him on a Sunday"
Sent: 08/30/19 5:23 am
Received: 09/03/99 12:52 am
From: Bates, Robert (Cahners-NYC), roxxxxxers.com
To: 'Spectropop List', spectxxxxxities.com
I'm sure you're all familiar with the Shirelles song "I
Met Him on a Sunday" -- at least the one that was on the
Rhino Records girl groups comp. A neighbor of mine had a
version of that song that was ten times better than that
one, on an old record. (I forgot how it was better -- I
just remember it was.) Anyone know any information about
this, or where I can find it?
Regards,
Rob B.
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Subject: from Perry Botkin
Sent: 09/05/19 6:43 pm
Received: 09/03/99 12:52 am
From: Carol Kaye, caroxxxxxhlink.net
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
I tell Perry from time to time things that were said on
this list (he doesn't really have any time to join this
list, sorry), and he said to tell everyone that "Priscilla
Paris does live in Paris, France" for your information.
Perry and I have been great friends for over 30 years and he
has been composing some of his own fine music, it's great.
His website is at:
http://home.earthlink.net/~pbotkin/
Best,
Carol Kaye http://www.carolkaye.com/
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Subject: New York's a Lonely Town
Sent: 09/01/19 5:35 am
Received: 09/03/99 12:52 am
From: DJ JimmyB, DJJimxxxxxcom
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
In a message dated 9/1/99 3:52:32 PM, you wrote:
>Yamashita singing Tokyo's a Lonely Town.
It's good to know that the Japanese have recognized just
how precious this song is, which reminds me of Dave
Edmunds' singing "London's A Lonely Town" on Pebbles
Volume 4 (The Surf One). Fantasssstick Virgin of the tune.
Also, does anyone know if The Tradewinds ever had an LP out
on the heels (or toes) of "New York's A Lonely Town" or
"Mind Excursion"?
Thanks in advance
Jimmy B/Boston's A Lonely Town when you're the only soft
pop boy around....
"Jimmy's Easy" airs on WMBR-FM, 88,1, Cambridge at MIT on
Tuesdays from 6-8 a.m. It can be heard in Real Time by
downloading Real Audio and visiting our website at
www.wmbr.org
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Subject: "My World Fell Down" by Sagittarius
Sent: 09/01/19 1:53 am
Received: 09/03/99 12:52 am
From: WASE RADIO,xxxxxt.org
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
During the summer of 1967, I heard the song "My World Fell
Down" by Sagittarius on WAKY in Louisville. I thought this
was a unique song. It sounds like the Beach Boys crossed
with the Mamas and the Papas further crossed by the Los
Angeles symphony orchestra. What was also one of a kind
about this record was this audio collage that starts at
about 1:56. It starts with a clock ticking, a baby crying,
a horse race bell, a steamboat whistle and a prize fight.
Over this din is a solo trumpet then a hugh brass fanfare
which segues into a solitary organ. Then slow vocals going
back into the chorus.
Years later I bought the Sagittarius album on Columbia (CS
9644). I listened to "My World Fell Down" which led off
side two. And to my amazement, the audio collage and the
slow section with the organ and vocals were missing. I
thought I lost my mind. I still kept the album which I
thought had some excellent material. For example "Another
Time" which leads off the album is very haunting,
especially with the haunting two note vocals.
This song was released as a single, and got some spotty
air play on WKLO in Louisville, but never charted. A shame.
A great song. I need to find that album again. It is
stored at my in-law's house.
Spectropop rules
Michael G. Marvin
Wase Radio
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Subject: Re: Hep Stars
Sent: 09/04/19 3:23 am
Received: 09/03/99 12:52 am
From: Billy G. Spradlin, bgsprxxxxxhlink.net
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
I'm glad Dawn answered questions about how Benny & Bjorn
got Steve Clark to produce the Hep Stars. Too bad Curt
Boettcher didn't wind up producing The Hep Stars, imagine
what it could have sounded like, and the influence it
could have had on ABBA.
My guess is that since Curt didn't want to work with them,
they tried to record his songs anyway, and that led them to
hook up with Steve Clark. I'm just amazed they got
permission from their Swedish record company to go to the
USA and cut an album. Most 60's Scandinavian albums I have
picked up over the years from Garage Sales and thrift
stores are pretty cheap sounding, and not pop-rock at all.
I also know that ABBA's first European hit "Ring Ring" was
co-written with Neil Sedaka, so I have gotten the idea that
Benny & Bjorn were actively perusing American writers and
producers they had admired to work with them. Judging by
ABBA's huge success in the 1970's they certainly did their
musical homework!
PS: The link to Delirium's Psychedelic Archive for
information on Goldenrod was incorrect. I got a webpage
for a Techno/Industrial noise band. Anyway the correct URL
for Goldenrod is:
http://www.delerium.co.uk/archive/us6070s/g3.html#Goldenrod
Hope this helps!
Billy G. Spradlin
29 Rim Road
Kilgore, Texas 75662
Email: bgsprxxxxxhlink.net
Homepage: http://home.earthlink.net/~bgspradlin/
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Subject: Ripples
Sent: 08/31/19 4:41 pm
Received: 09/03/99 12:52 am
From: Kingsley Abbott, kinxxxxxa.freeserve.co.uk
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
Re: Jack Madani's question about possible overlap between
Ripples and the Here Comes The Girls series, the short
answer is Yes. However it will be not very much, as I
don't want to duplicate too much. Some tracks just cry out
for inclusion though. For instance, on Uptown Girls and Big
City Boys (Vol 4) I have put on Tammy St John and Glo
Macari because they are just so right. We've just finished
the final track listings for Ripples 3 & 4, and I'm going to
do the notes this weekend. Reaction is good, and it looks
like the series may be extended next year. There is also a
possibility/probability of CDs just on The Freshmen (I had
a phone call from a lovely Irishman today, and he is
sending me lots of details and photos on The Freshmen,
although the sad news is that their lead singer Billy
Brown passed away in June this year), a White Plains style
collection, and...AND a 2cd set of the best of US Sunshine
Music. If this comes to pass, it will be about 50 tracks,
and I'll do my darndest to include some real goodies that
aren't available elsewhere. Dawn, we can talk about htis
one!!!
It also occurs to me that The Hep Stars would be a great
re-issue project for Revola in their continuing Curt
series. I'll go and talk to them.
Back to where we began... quite a nice notion... Ripples
overlapping girls. CD cover concept for next year maybe!
Kingsley Abbott- Ripples Co-compiler
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Subject: rosecrans blvd. lyric
Sent: 08/29/19 11:21 pm
Received: 09/03/99 12:52 am
From: Harvey Williamxxxxxnetuk.com
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
Tobias was wondering about the lyric of Rosecrans Blvd.
Here's my interpretation. I probably ought to write the
whole lyric out, to avoid confusion, and simply because
(IMHO) it's one of the greatest lyrics ever written...
I've passed a lot of exit signs in my time
While driving down that long freeway
To San Diego & points south.
But there was a time last summer
When I came down from Manhattan
& though I knew I shouldn't
It was just too hard.
& I made my move at Rosecrans Blvd.
Rosecrans Blvd.
Stop your calling me.
You know, I never loved her anyway.
I just used her over & over.
But there were times when she'd laugh
And I'd think I loved her.
One night on Manhattan Beach
I said things that moved too fast to suit her.
Then I held her close & dried her tears.
Rosecrans Blvd.
Who cares what you think?
The girl was half crazy, the way she drove that little car
Down Sunset Blvd at 3 in the morning
Doing 90 miles an hour in a 30 mile zone
And blamed me when she got that ticket.
But then there was that smile;
It was really what made all the airlines go. (Yes!!!!)
She was a stewardess, you know.
Shot down on a non-combatant mission.
And though I hid it,
Every time I drive my car down Rosecrans Blvd.
I wonder why I did it...
I eagerly await your cover version!!
I've often wondered about its location. Perhaps our LA
correspondents can help us out here...
Regards, Harvey W.
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Subject: "Rosecrans Blvd"
Received: 09/03/99 3:19 am
From: Jamie LePage, le_pagxxxxxities.com
To: Spectropop List, spectxxxxxities.com
Toby wrote:
>I can't make out the whole Rosecrans Blvd lyric - can
>somebody correct my interpretation? There are a lot of
>geographical references which I'm not too familiar with
>(actually, where *is* this Rosecrans Blvd located????)
Hey Toby, you wrote you were disappointed with this song!
Starting to come around? :-)
Thanks to your post, I have been listening to Johnny
Rivers' Rewind album all day. Listening to it as I write
this. Just great. Hal Blaine on drums, Joe Osborne on bass,
Larry Knechtel on keys and Mike Dacy on guitars.
Rosecrans Blvd is one of my very favorite Webb lyrics ever,
and I would just like to explain a little bit why it is
so touching to me. Part of it is personal being a native
Angeleno, but it has to do with more than that.
>I've passed a lot of exit signs in my time
>While driving down that long freeway
>To San Diego & points south
When one finally makes the transition from the Hollywood
or Santa Monica Freeway heading south, one leaves behind
the horrible downtown traffic and a great feeling of
release comes over the driver. Heading south, one
approaches the LA Int'l Airport exits heading into Orange
County and beyond. Rosecrans Blvd is one of those
south-of-LA exits.
>And though I knew I shouldn't
>It was just too hard
>I made my move at Rosecrans Blvd.
To me, the lyric is the juxtaposition of lust and love.
The narrator is attracted to a girl, but knows in his
heart the attraction isn't love. Yet, seeing the Rosecrans
Blvd. exit sign and knowing what waits beyond the offramp,
he finds the allure too strong to resist.
>I just used her
>Over & over
This line just kills me every time. He is reminding
himself that his feelings were not really love, and the
"over and over" line ensures the listener knows he kept the
affair going despite his realizing it was not really love.
>One night on Manhattan Beach
>I said things that moved too fast to suit her
>Then I held her close & dried her tears
Manhattan Beach is a popular Orange County coastline
relatively close to the airport, spacious and clean.
A perfect setting for a romantic encounter. The
wind, waves and girl race through his mind as the rhythm
in the bridge changes meter to an accelerated 123-123-12
pattern, slowing for the last line before returning to the
main theme. Webb achieves this marriage of lyric and rhythm
effortlessly here. But what did he say that made her cry?
That he loved her? That he wanted to make love to her?
Webb leaves this question for the listener to ponder.
>Rosecrans Blvd.
>Who cares what you think
>The girl was half crazy
>The way she drove that little car
>Down Sunset Blvd at 3 in the morning
>Doing 90 miles an hour in a 30 mile zone
>And blamed me when she got a ticket
He continues to struggle, arguing with the temptation of
the exit sign by recalling how she would do perplexingly
impulsive things such as speed along Sunset Strip in the
middle of the night and then get mad at him when she
suffered the consequences. The Sunset Strip is a unique
stretch of road that is beyond the jurisdiction of the LA
Police. It is patrolled by LA Sheriff department who were
and are notoriously strict. Remember, this song was
written around the time of the Strip riots (For What It's
Worth) and the tension of this area was apparently on
everyone's mind, especially the new counter culture of
which I assume Webb was part of.
>And though I pity it
>Every time I drive my car down Rosecrans Blvd.
>I wonder why I did it
Recapitulation of the entire lyric in these last lines; a
powerhouse ending that abrubtly stops, leaving the
listener to ponder why he did it and if, after all, it was
right or wrong.
I rarely get analytical with lyrics as I have here, but
this is such a personal song and since you, Toby, wrote
you were disappointed with it, I thought this may help you
understand why many consider this one of Webb's best songs.
As for me personally, well, I have a few "Rosecrans Blvd."
exit signs in my memory too.
Jamie
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