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Subject: There Go the Girls
Received: 06/24/00 9:38 am
From: Ian Chapman
To: Spectropop!
Jack M. wrote:
> Once again demonstrating my cluelessness, I wonder if
> someone could help bring me up to date on the most
> recent state of the Here Come The Girls series. I
> currently own volume numbers:
>
> 1 (catalog NEX CD 111)
> 3 (catalog NEX CD 193)
> 4 (catalog SEQUEL 1012-2, and actually labeled "Volume 1"
> but I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be volume 4)
> 6 (catalog NEM CD 718)
> 7 (catalog NEM CD 752)
> 8 (catalog NEM CD 845)
> 9 (catalog NEM CD 950)
>
> What if anything comes after volume 9? And who carries
> the discs of this series?
Hi Jack,
Volume 10 was the final vol. in the series and was a
double set, entitled "Girls Don't Come" (NEECD 327) - it
came out earlier this year. I think they decided they'd
used everything worth using regarding the Pye girls,
although I maintain they could still squeeze one more
decent CD from the catalogue - there are still good unused
items by such names as Sandra Barry, the Intentions, Polly
Brown, Sam and Antoinette, to name a few.
Can't quite figure out your catalog # for Vol. 4 - it
should be NEX CD 238 - entitled "You Can Be Wrong About
Boys" - my copy doesn't say Vol. 1 anywhere.
I notice you didn't list Vol. 2 - it's no longer available,
but it was entitled "Take 3 Girls" (NEX CD 177) and
comprised tracks by Julie Grant, Billie Davis and Helen
Shapiro.
Ian
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Subject: Q for Mr. Hal David
Received: 06/24/00 9:38 am
From: Marc Wielage
To: Spectropop!
Two quick questions for Mr. David:
First, let me say that, like many others on this list,
I've been a tremendous fan of Bacharach-David's work
during the 1960s and 1970s. I always felt that it was
unfortunate that sometimes Burt's melodies got most of
the spotlight, when the reality was that without Hal's
lyrics, a lot of great hits like "Do You Know the Way to
San Jose" or "Windows of the World" would've been just
pretty tunes, as opposed to the pop classics that they
justifiably became.
My questions are: Not a lot of details have ever been
divulged about the unfortunate split-up between
Bacharach, David, and Dionne Warwick in 1973, in the
aftermath of LOST HORIZON. My understanding was that
(depending on which history book you believe) Dionne was
either unhappy that she wasn't given any of these songs
to sing, or that she was angry that the two songwriters
ignored her career while concentrating on the more
lucrative movie soundtrack market. Regardless, I know
that the movie was unsuccessful, Bacharach & David
split-up, and because they couldn't write songs together
anymore, Dionne chose to sue.
I know it was a painful period, but would Mr. David be
willing to tell his side of the story? I hope that
after nearly three decades, maybe it won't be too
painful to recall the details.
Secondly: I suspect Mr. David has a lot of terrific
stories to tell about his many years in the music
business. Would you ever consider writing an
autobiography, ala Alan Jay Lerner's excellent book ON
THE STREET WHERE I LIVE? I bet there are many people
out there who would enjoy reading your story.
--MFW
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Subject: question for Hal David
Received: 06/24/00 9:38 am
From: Tom Waters
To: Spectropop!
I've always thought that the most beautiful song by
Hal David and Burt B. is "If I Never Get to Love You". I
was wondering how this song came into being and if it was
written for anyone in particular. I have two recordings
of it, one by Gene Pitney and the other by Marianne
Faithfull. Pitney's version is exciting and I enjoy the
way he attacks the song (as he does all songs), but
Marianne's version really brings out the beauty of the
song in a way that does it full justice. What is the
story behind this amazing song?
Tom
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Subject: Three for Hal
Received: 06/26/00 9:38 am
From: Jamie LePage
To: Spectropop!
Since the last Spectropop I have been listening to a lot
of Hal David-penned records, paying particular attention
to the words. I was reminded once again of how on many
songs the lyrics feel happy and optimistic at the hook,
yet on closer examination are lonely and desperate. Always
Something There To Remind Me, What the World Needs Now is
Love, Do You Know the Way to San Jose and This Guy's In
Love With You each utilize this device to great effect; An
instantly memorable sing-song hook segues to this intense
longing in the verses. I'll tell you one thing - that
contrast gives deep emotional impact to many
Bacharach/David penned recordings.
My first question is: Did this contrast between happy,
catchy hooks and low, moody verses come as a natural
marriage to the melodies or as a deliberate application of
learned skills as a lyricist? Would the contrast of lyrical
mood sometimes influence Burt's melodies?
Next I want to ask about "the one that got away." You must
be very gratified when Close To You became such a big song
long after Dionne's LP version was first issued. Are there
any others from this particular period of your career that
you feel have yet to reach their potential?
Lastly, please tell us a bit about your songs. Many Brill
writers were signed to Aldon, Trio, Hill & Range, etc.
Publishing credits on Dionne's Scepter LPs list Blue Seas/
Jac Music. Was Jac Music your own company? If so, wasn't
it unusual for a songwriter to be self-published in those
days?
Thanks so much for your time.
All the best,
Jamie "one less egg to fry" LePage
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Subject: ONE recording session
Received: 06/24/00 9:38 am
From: Rex Patton
To: Spectropop!
At 08:10 AM 6/19/00 +0900, Jack Madani wrote:
>
>the I Got You Babe session, because I'd like to see the
>look on the faces of the musicians during playback when
>they realized that Sonny "don't forget the fries when you
>come back with the hamburgers" Bono had come up something
>that good. That would have been something to see.
I think the looks on the faces of the musicians during
and after the session would probably have reflected them
thinking "I wonder if Sonny is going to take credit for
this?" While the record itself is a classic piece of pop,
the song is basically a ripoff of Donovan's "Catch The
Wind" and the song was arranged by Harold Battiste, who,
from what I've read, did most of the work on the Sonny
and Cher duo and solo efforts.
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Subject: Sonny as producer/Experience Music Museum
Received: 06/24/00 9:38 am
From: Carol Kaye
To: Spectropop!
> because I'd like to see the look on the faces of the
> musicians during playback when they realized that Sonny
> "don't forget the fries when you come back with the
> hamburgers" Bono had come up something that good. That
> would have been something to see.
After our first session with Sonny, no-one was surprised.
He quickly proved how great he was in the booth as a
producer -- tap his foot in time? No, but he could do
something better: produce some great hits for himself
and Cher - he was super at knowing what kind of
backgrounds, arrangements for what he called "just little
tunes that weren't hardly anything" -- he did it..
Something I think the public really has no idea of,
they're so fooled by the persona, the false front of what
he's always put people on with. He knew exactly what he
was doing in the booth, was an excellent producer, could
produce more different kinds of styles as hit records
probably better than Phil Spector.
I'm off soon to go to Seattle to do a seminar there on
"Studio Work, the bass role in it", plus do a concert with
our Jazz Trio "Thumbs Up" (Ray Pizzi and Mitch Holder).
We're playing for the opening ceremonies for Paul Allen's
Experience Music Museum June 23-24, the only
straight-ahead jazz group to do so.
BTW, all the bass sounds you hear in the museum are from
the recordings I did for EMP months ago along with the
personally-filmed interview playing and talking they sent
a film-crew down here to do a couple of years ago....lots
of press on this fabulous museum. After a chance personal
article in the NY Times about my website etc., NPR Morning
Edition w/Bob Edwards did a nice interview (see link below)
and a multi-person NPR one with Brian Wilson on the making
of Good Vibrations on this Monday 19th in the afternoon,
so much happening.
Carol Kaye
http://www.carolkaye.com/
PPS. There's also a wonderful feature interview I
managed to get for the magazine I write a regular column
for, Bassics Magazine, on Brian Wilson, how he wrote out
the bass lines, etc. Will be out in about 2 weeks in
major music stores.
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Subject: that one recording session
Received: 06/24/00 9:38 am
From: David Marshall
To: Spectropop!
I know this probably isn't the genre under discussion,
but Boheamian Rhapsody would have had to have been very
interesting. If not that Heroes and Villians.
dave marshall
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Subject: The Girls won
Received: 06/24/00 9:38 am
From: Paul Urbahns
To: Spectropop!
John wrote:
<< Looks like Ronnie & the girls won
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/20000616/en/music-ronettes_1.html
>>
True, it's too bad the girls didn't ask for non exclusive
rights to the recordings so both they and Spector could
license the material. The judge was right in not taking
the recordings away from Phil. But if Ronnie had rights
to issue them too then at least the stuff would be
available on more than just the Abkco label. The Ronettes
tracks along with the Crystals should be represented on
every girl group comp on the market just like the
Shirelles. But as long as Phil controls the masters, it
will not happen. I have the songs myself,but the next
generation is not going to hear them unless they get
spread around.
Paul URbahns
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Subject: The Nice Age-6/18/00
Received: 06/24/00 9:38 am
From: David Ponak
The Nice Age streams every Sunday from 3-6PM (PDT) at
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6/18/00
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3594 2000-06-18 16:09:47
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Esvrevnoc Bee Charmer EB Epic 1977
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Yellow Magic Orchestra Rydeen (Towa Tei Remix) YMO Remixes
Victor 60483 2000-06-18 16:32:21
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King 499 2000-06-18 16:52:31
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Poplot 1001 2000-06-18 16:55:12
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Melon Quiet Village Deep Cut Sony 761
2000-06-18 17:01:24
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1221 2000-06-18 17:10:26
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Nona Reeves W Animation WB 10011 2000-06-18
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Scott Walker Joe Till The Band Comes In BGO 320
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The 5th Dimension Summer's Daughter The Magic Garden
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Friends Bambini 4 2000-06-18 17:37:25
Claudine Longet Love Is Blue Love Is Blue A&M 1941
2000-06-18 17:40:39
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&K 27 2000-06-18 17:43:39
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2000-06-18 17:49:39
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