http://www.spectropop.com ________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ Unauthorized duplication is a violation of applicable laws ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 11 messages in this issue #36. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Jackie Ward From: Carol Kaye 2. Robin Ward From: "Ian Chapman" 3. In His Car - Robin Ward From: "jake tassell" 4. Ronnie In Concert From: john rausch 5. In Whose Car? From: DJ Jimmy Bee 6. It`s My Party? From: john rausch 7. Re: Terry Black CD-R From: "Lee Dempsey" 8. Hal Blaine From: "Mike arcidiacono" 9. Supremes in England From: Scott Swanson 10. Tommy Roe's "It's Now Winter's Day." From: "Len" 11. Billie Davis From: John Frank ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 08:05:55 -0700 From: Carol Kaye Subject: Re: Jackie Ward > By the way, Robin Ward was really session singer > Jackie Ward, Well, that's something. I didn't know that either. I worked quite a bit with Jackie Ward, nice gal....kind of a small pretty woman with black hair - very sharp talented hard-working lady.......she could hit every note in tune, great great singer, was the No. 1 call studio singer in town for years and years in Hollywood. Carol Kaye http://www.carolkaye.com/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 23:59:10 +0100 From: "Ian Chapman" Subject: Robin Ward > Mikey said: > She also did a bunch of duets with a singer named Dale > XXXX, which werent worth a damn, IMHO. By the way, Robin > Ward was really session singer Jackie ward, who sang on > TONS of early '60s productions, and in fact, dubbed Linda > Evans voice in one of the Beach Movies, cant remember > which one right now. A great talent. > > There is a bootleg Cd of most of her releases, which is > pretty OK. Hope this helps. Yes, Mikey, couldn't agree more, a great talent indeed. There's also a legit MCA Japanese CD of her album, maybe deleted by now, taken from the original master tapes (mostly in stereo), with bonuses of the singles "Winter's Here" (mono) and "Johnny Come & Get Me", but sadly they didn't include "In His Car", and its flip, nor her other Dot 45 (just credited to the Rainbows), "My Ringo"/"He's Hooked on J's". Confusingly, another Rainbows Dot single ("Down the Block") was a black girl-group, and nothing to do with Robin's group. She had another (earlier, I think) 45 on the Songs Unlimited label, "I Surrender Dear", that came in a pic sleeve. The duets mentioned were with country singer Wink "Deck of Cards" Martindale - never heard 'em, so can't comment, tho' I suspect I'd agree with Mikey! The beach movie she dubbed for Linda Evans (singing "New Love") was Beach Blanket Bingo, IMO the best of the beach movies - Blossoms sang on back-ups for it too. Jackie (she apparently borrowed the name "Robin" from her daughter) went on to do a stint with the Anita Kerr Singers. I've always kinda suspected that the Josephine Sunday 45 on Tower (the fab "You Won't Even Know Her Name") was Robin, too, but I have no proof positive. If it isn't her, it's sure her vocal twin! Ian --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:02:03 +0100 From: "jake tassell" Subject: In His Car - Robin Ward Mikey says: > > She sure did!! "In His Car" released in late 1964 was, > in my opinion, a MUCH better girl group record than > Wonderful Summer. I'll second that one. 'In His Car' is a fantastic record. Superb production, Gold-Star-ish ambience, Wonderful 'blend-a-phonic' backing vocals, and the fact that Robin has a voice like a cartoon duckling only adds to the charm of the record. 'In His Car' is a magnificent slice of Spectraudic heaven and a must-have for all Wall of Sound fans. Jake. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 20:43:54 -0400 From: john rausch Subject: Ronnie In Concert David, thanks for sharing you meeting Ronnie and the concert with us. Posts like yours are what I love about about Spectropop. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 5 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 08:16:12 EDT From: DJ Jimmy Bee Subject: In Whose Car? Robin Ward's "In His Car" was certainly a girl group prototype tune representing both the spirit and letter of girl group essence. However "Wonderful Summer" had the pounding surf as the opener of the tune, to my knowledge a feat unsurpassed to date. (And don't say The Tymes ""As We Stroll Along Together" neither!)....If you don't play "Wonderful Summer" today, chances are you had a bad summer!... JB/Sittin' in my car along side your lawn. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 6 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 20:50:05 -0400 From: john rausch Subject: It`s My Party? Hi Group, I was thumbing thru some old issues of my Philately zines and noticed they do show a Gold Star acetate for It`s My Party ,the Spector version. Does this mean there is, somewhere, a copy or two of this unreleased recording? It says on the label "You Would Cry Too" and listed by Delores Brooks... (La La?) I am interested in any info anyone may have please. Thanks John Rausch Phil Spector`s Wall Of Sound http://members.tripod.com/~rauschj/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 7 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 15:33:59 EDT From: "Lee Dempsey" Subject: Re: Terry Black CD-R To the members of the Spectropop Group: Thanks to all of the people who've inquired off-line regarding me making copies of the Terry Black CD-R for them. Please understand that this was a one-off project done at the request of the artist himself. As you might expect, I've promised Terry that I would make no copies of the CD-R without his permission. Hope everyone understands. In a completely unrelated story, in the last couple of weeks, Terry has heard that CD bootlegs of ONLY SIXTEEN and THE BLACK PLAGUE (exact replicas, with original covers, etc.) have surfaced in Canada (without his permission, of course). I don't have any further details at this time. Regards, Lee Dempsey --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 8 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 21:27:10 -0700 From: "Mike arcidiacono" Subject: Hal Blaine Carol, I think I may be able to shed a little light on the Hal Blaine "Wrecking Crew" thing. In a 1981 interview with Modern Drummer Magazine Hal stated that in the '60s ..."I kind of named us The Wrecking Crew back then because we would go in a dungarees, T shirts, and literally make a mess of the studios". So, even 20 years ago Hal was talking about that. Could it be possible that he said that a few times back in the '60s , but that it never really caught on, and hes the only one who remembers that tag? Just a thought. Also, thank you for sharing your rememberances and stories. It makes me feel like I were there!! Nows heres a question...is their any FILM of you and the others recording in a real session in the 60s? If there is, that would be a real treat to see. Maybe some from Brian Wilsons sessions? Best Regards, Mikey --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 9 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 13:21:36 -0700 From: Scott Swanson Subject: Supremes in England Does anyone have any information on The Supremes recording in England? I know they did that "Live At The Talk Of The Town" concert(s) in early 1968...but was there anything else? If nobody here knows the answer.....does anyone know who *would* know the answer?? Just curious, Scott --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 10 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 12:48:18 -0700 (PDT) From: "Len" Subject: Tommy Roe's "It's Now Winter's Day." > The single "WishingStar"/"Kick Me Charlie" was a > revelation to me, as the label indicates that both sides > were produced by Curt Boettcher! Wonder if this is the same "Kick Me Charlie" that was the B side to Tommy Roe's "It's Now Winter's Day." Hey - there's a record we've never discussed, that i can remember.. what a gorgeous arrangement.. anyone know anything about it? ===================================================== Len ===================================================== --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 11 Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 21:40:17 -0700 From: John Frank Subject: Billie Davis Does there exist a compilation CD of the work of this outstanding BritGirl singer? If not, there should be. She shows up on UK compilations, and was featured in the BBC "BritGirl" series, and on "Pop Gear" (a sort of British "T.A.M.I. Show" without the audience). Even a bootleg collection of her stuff would be welcomed by this fan! John --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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