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There are 6 messages in this issue #52.
Topics in this digest:
1. re: Mikey Nesmith/Ricky Nelson?
From: Christopher Davidson
2. Papa Nez' Blues
From: Glenn Sadin
3. Ian Chapman on TreasureIslandOldies.com
From: Michael Godin
4. Re: Pass it along
From: "Joseph Scott"
5. Re: Pass It Along
From: Toby
6. Re: Berklee College, Boston
From: Carol Kaye
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 06:19:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: Christopher Davidson
Subject: re: Mikey Nesmith/Ricky Nelson?
Regarding the insightful Monkees comment, I completely
agree. Always thought Papa Gene's Blues sounded like
a Ricky Nelson outtake. And I also agree about Jeff
Barry producing the hottest Monkees material. The
second album is amazing, as is the sporadic stuff he
did later on -- She Hangs Out, I Don't Think You Know
Me, Little Bit Me. I think the final album (Changes?)
when it was just a duo is kind of weak, which is
surprising as it was cut during Barry's great work
with the Archies and Andy Kim.
On an unrelated note, I just discovered the most
incredible piece of '60s soft pop -- it's Andy
Williams backed by the Association doing the song
"Changes," which I think was on the Association's
first album. It's from a TV appearance on the AW show
>from maybe 1965-66 or so that I recently got from a
video dealer in Boston. The band lip-synchs to
Cherish and then Andy comes out and sings lead on
Changes, which actually just might be the actual
record with the original lead vocal wiped off and
replaced by Andy's live voice. Hard to tell as the
video's a bit fuzzy. But what a great album these
guys could've done!
CAD -- first time poster.
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Chris Davidson
CAD Records
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 09:37:35 -0700
From: Glenn Sadin
Subject: Papa Nez' Blues
Jack sez...
>
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>But then I suddenly noticed that Mike's "Papa Gene's
>Blues" really sounds a lot--a LOT--like a Ricky Nelson
>sort of track. Naturally, James Burton's guitar is the
>direct connection, but it seems to me that it goes
>further than just that. The whole song has a kind of
>>Ricky Nelson sound, calling to mind none other than
>"Hello Mary Lou" itself.
Nez himself has stated that "Hello Mary Lou" was the
direct inspiration for "Papa Gene's Blues." He has also
named Ricky Nelson as the real "Father of Country Rock" (a
title occasionally bestowed upon Nesmith).
I've often found it interesting that Nesmith was able to
get two or three of his compositions/productions placed on
each of those first two Monkees LPs, considering how
corporate-controlled those recordings were, and
considering Nesmith's track record at that time (several
flop singles on Colpix and on a few obscure indie labels).
Some interesting trivia: On the very 1st pressings of the
first Monkees LP (October 1966), the song is listed as
"Papa Jean's Blues," not "Papa Gene's Blues." That was
quickly corrected and the LP was reissued with a "RE"
after the catalog number.
Glenn
Glenn Sadin
Read about JAPANESE POP MUSIC from the 1950s thru the 1990s:
http://home.earthlink.net/~glenn_mariko/nihon.htm
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 07:00:28 -0700
From: Michael Godin
Subject: Ian Chapman on TreasureIslandOldies.com
Hi,
I wanted to pass on my thanks to Spectropop member Ian
Chapman for joining me in the studio as my guest this week
on Treasure Island Oldies. He had an intriguing Top 5 last
which we played in the last hour of the show. I invite you
to have a listen. Just go to the site and click on listen
to latest show link.
Cheers!
Michael Godin
Treasure Island Oldies
www.TreasureIslandoldies.com
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 11:34:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Joseph Scott"
Subject: Re: Pass it along
Hi all,
Personally, I think this track by this British alt-pop
group is likely to be a publicity stunt, intended to get
the group's name attention in the press so that the group
can profit financially in the long run. I think if this
vocalist were as concerned about artistic integrity as he
claims to be, they'd be sampling artists who particularly
struck their artistic fancy, rather than what looks
suspiciously like a list of artists who are particularly
likely to get the group coverage in the press because they
are well-known to the public, such as Eminem, the Beatles,
and Madonna. Just my opinion.
Best to everyone,
Joseph Scott
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 07:51:57 -0000
From: Toby
Subject: Re: Pass It Along
>Chumbawamba vocalist Dunstan Bruce says, "It's hilarious
>listening to the big record companies bleating on about
>how file sharing is damaging art. They wouldn't recognize
>art or artistic integrity if they bounded over and bit
>them on the arse."
What a funny coincidence, I presented a short essay about
this very subject for my Sociology class today!
This may be off-topic, but the music industry's argument
that they're losing money because of sites like Napster is
pretty ironic, when record sales have *increased* in the
last couple of years. I think it (the industry) is
threatened because the internet is a new form of media
which it doesn't have control over. I mean, the entire
music industry today is controlled by how many companies,
five??? Thank God the EU stopped the Warner-EMI merger...
Related subject: how many Sixties artists distribute their
own music on their websites these days? I believe Roger
McGuinn is one....and Brian Wilson makes two...David Bowie
(though he's not really a Spectropoppy artist)...
Toby
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 07:38:43 -0700
From: Carol Kaye
Subject: Re: Berklee College, Boston
>>>>Hi gang...Did you know???? This Friday, October 27 the
Berklee College of Music Bass Ensemble here in good ol'
Boston is presenting a tribute to the bass-stylings of our
own Carol Kaye by presenting arrangements of many of the
songs on which she played...
Congratulations to Carol and the integrity of Soft Pop...
JB<<<
Just checking in, JB, that's wild, thank-you. I just got
back from giving 2 seminars and playing a little bit at
the concert on Bass Dayz at Berklee in Boston (this Monday)
....over 200 bass students, was just the cat's meow --
they're doing such great things at Berklee for the
students, just wonderful teachers there, themselves
excellent musicians too. I didn't know about this thing
you posted, that's really wild...thanks for posting that..
..am so honored...don't know what to say. But I can tell
you, I'm a fan of Berklee for sure....they're the best you
can get for teachers, the whole program, etc.
Have to tell you tho' that my friend in NYC, Deb Hastings,
herself a successful film business lady, and 14-year leader
and bassist of the band in back of Bo Diddley (I heard her
play at the EMP opening in Seattle, she can groove and
we've even sat down to play some good jazz together, she's
a fine bassist! a real groover), drove up to Boston to film
the whole thing (not commercially, just as a side thing),
and it was a great experience. Excellent questions at the
seminars (one was a focus on "women" in music, the other
detailed bass education).
I have to thank Rich Appleman of the Bass Dept. for
putting that all together, he let me use his bass too (and
thanks also to Chas. Chapman for loan of his guitar)....
Rich was in charge of all the ceremonies, that evening's
concert, etc. and it was beautiful, 01 ,000s of people there.
It's the greatest private music school in the USA, and I
think everyone should be proud of the integrity, knowledge,
and musicianship involved in the teacher line-up of that
great school.
Wish they'd have a 2nd school out here in LA, they sure
need something of the calibur of Berklee (round the year,
I teach at the prestigious Henry Mancini Institute-UCLA,
but that's only 1 month a year and not the complete
educational facilities of Berklee....which entails "all"
of the curriculum, not just the "finishing" part like
Mancini does).
Would sure help with the music situation out here in LA if
Berklee was here too (if it's ever possible)....I have to
tell musicians: Don't come to LA, as there's no work at
all, studios or live (where you can make a "living", it's
still good for connections for road tours with various
groups). And studio work is practically nil....so much
politics too, never seen that before in my life here in LA,
especially speaking of rhythm sections - maybe someday
it could pick up and be good again...would like to see
that happen for tomorrow's generation of musicians - that
would be wonderful for the public too to get some good
music out there.
Thank-you Berklee, everyone there, for the graciousness,
the great short time I was there was simply the cat's meow
.....was wonderful to see so much in action at Berklee
education-wise, I'm so impressed with the whole school,
you've got a lot in Boston there to be proud of!
Best,
Carol
PS. Yep, had a beer at "Cheers" on Beacon, and ate the
famous seafood there, Ray Pizzi was right....downright
great.
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