http://www.spectropop.com ________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ joining the legions of fans ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 7 messages in this issue of Spectropop. Topics in this Digest Number 181: 1. Peggy=Jessica=Tiffany From: "Martin Roberts" 2. Reparata on video From: "Ian Chapman" 3. Songs featuring Radio Station logos or call letters From: Paul Urbahns 4. Tammys on cd can it be? From: "Jack Madani" 5. Re: Archies New CD From: "Donny Hampton" 6. Re: Rock Flowers/Goodees From: "Donny Hampton" 7. Rock Flowers On Television From: John Clemente ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:59:07 +0100 From: "Martin Roberts" Subject: Peggy=Jessica=Tiffany Nice to be able to get away from The Archies, Hullabaloo & The Rock Flowers for a bit! Not long had John Clemente's excellent book 'Girl Groups, Fabulous Females....' been dipping in & out. One of the chapters that interested me the most is The Angels. Second time of reading Peggy's comment on "Dixie" I remembered a girl group version I had, digging around my 45's found it but it's not a version it is Peggy. Released as Tiffany Michel "Dixie" adapted & produced by Bob Gaudio For Four Seasons Prod.Co.,Inc, arr Artie Schrock. (Fabulous vocal performance & great production) MGM K13624 rel '66. B. side "Come Closer" Not noticed before but this is the same as Jessica James / Outlaws version. (Thanks to Mick Patrick's also excellent "Dyno Voice Story" I could play CD & 45 together) Only difference the Tiffany version lasts for a marvelous 47 seconds extra! Same label credits on both 45's. Now I'm no voice expert and had always accepted all "The Chiffons" were the same group. So John's assertion that beside "Little Jimmy / Tops" 45' no Chiffons recorded until "He's So Fine" intrigued me. I've played the Reprise 45 and excelent early girl group that it is, being recorded on a West Coast label & being written by PJ Proby does seem to make it an unlikely New York Chiffons. The Big Time 45 I've only got on a couple of Spinorama albums so no credits, again very good but East or West coast? Now I do have a supposed Chiffons backing 45 on Wildcat 602 Joe Clark's "Won't You Settle Down" co wr Rudy on a Hutch Davie produced label so this is East Coast. The Chiffons own release on Wildcat 601 I only have on tape. Now the Len 45's excellent Frankie Lymon/Teenagers A side I couldn't pick out any female voice clearly but the B side seems to feature a female voice at the start which could (to my ears!) be any of the above girls. What I can't understand, if none of these groups are "The Chiffons" why did Ronnie Mack & The Tokens use the name of a chart act only two years previously with all the legal problems that could have ensued? The other side of the coin of course, why didn't The Tokens sue Spinorama Records for cashing in on the hits of the "real Chiffons" by using photos of "The Chiffons" on their album sleeves? Questions, Questions, Questions Isn't it great!! Martin --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 2 Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:01:36 +0100 From: "Ian Chapman" Subject: Reparata on video Brian asked if:- >......there is any surviving footage of > Reparata & the Delrons performing on any of the 60's > shows. Brian, There is b&w footage of Reparata and the girls doing (lip-synching) "Captain of Your Ship" from the German 60s pop show "Beat Club". It was screened a couple of times on UK TV about five years ago or more when they ran a series of "Beat Club" compilations. Ian --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:45:34 EDT From: Paul Urbahns Subject: Songs featuring Radio Station logos or call letters Let me bring up a new subject that I have not seen covered in this area before. During the 60s and early 70s when radio stations and DJs were the main influence on record sales. It was a fairly common practice for record companies to issue special versions of new releases to stations where the artist would sing the call letters or logo of the station. These "dropped in" items by the engineers were not on the regular commerical releases of the same song. Two examples someone mentioned to me today, was a Flash Cadillac & The Continental Kids song (he couldn't remember the name) and a Starship record he said was "We Built This City". I remember that "New York's A Lonely Town" by The tradewinds had a version that sang "because there's no KRLA" or something like that. A country song by Tommy Overstreet "Fading Out Fading In" had multiple versions done with individual station call letters for distribution only to the station mentioned for their airplay. Anyway, does the assembled group remember other songs that were edited for the inclusion of a radio station logo? Paul Urbahns --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 4 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 22:56:37 -0400 From: "Jack Madani" Subject: Tammys on cd can it be? The following link leads to a collector's choice music page that deals with a new import: http://www.ccmusic.com/ccm_detail.cgi?item_code=RPM5330 > Egyptian Shumba-Singles & Rare 1962-65 > > Lou's four-octave range made his voice attract as much > attention as Frankie Valli's in the mid-60s, when he > scored big hits with tunes like "Two Faces Have I" and > "The Gypsy Cried." Those Roulette hits are included, but > the real finds here are his rarely anthologized Colpix > sides and his recordings with the girl group the Tammys > ("Outside the Gates of Heaven," "Back Track," "Gypsy," > etc.). 22 tracks, several unreleased and > first-time-stereo! Release date: June 25 > > 1 The Gypsy Cried > 2 Two Faces Have I > 3 Summer Snow > 4 Outside The Gates Of Heaven > 5 Guitars And Bongos > 6 Merry Go Round > 7 Make Summer Last Forever > 8 Back Track > 9 Have I Sinned > 10 Pot Of Gold > 11 Too Many Miles > 12 Part Of Growing Up > 13 Take Back Your Ring > 14 Don'Tcha Back Track > 15 Lost In The Crowd > 16 Egyptian Shumba > 17 What'S So Sweet About Sweet Sixteen > 18 Gypsy > 19 Hold Back The Light Of Dawn > 20 Blue Sixteen > 21 His Actions Speak Louder Than Words > 22 Egyptian Shumba -- #1 Can it really be? Oh to have Egyptian Shumba on cd, to say nothing of What's So Sweet About Sweet Sixteen, wherein the Tammys' powerful Western Pennsylvania accent pulls the phrase "wahhhhhts sewwwww sweet abahhhhht sweet sixteen" all out of shape like it was taffy. jack who's feeling like havin' a bottle of pop, just like they do in Sewickley. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 5 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 23:46:32 -0000 From: "Donny Hampton" Subject: Re: Archies New CD Billy Spradlin wrote: >...it's the >best sounding and compiled Archies best-of CD I have seen >so far. It's nice to finally get the "Everything's Archie" >TV Show theme song, plus the hard-to-find 1971 single >"This Is Love" on CD. (I've never heard this song before >but the chorus reminds me of...Matthew Sweet?!) My only >gripe is that it's only 39:20 and has "only" 16 tracks. A >lot of great LP tracks are missing, IMO. Despite the >short time this is the Archies CD to get if you havent >bought one before. I was supposed to be involved with that Archies compilation as the liner notes writer, but I pulled out because I wasn't happy about certain aspects of the production. There were a lot of limits placed on Bill Pitzonka, who produced the CD. The dearth of tracks was definitely an issue with me. Still, Bill loves this music, there's a demand for Archies product, and I hope it does well. I've been told that the best Archies compilation ever is a 25-track set currently on release in the UK. Has anyone heard it? Don Charles --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 6 Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 23:50:47 -0000 From: "Donny Hampton" Subject: Re: Rock Flowers/Goodees "Mike Arcidiacono" wrote: >Enter Ringling Bros. They had been trying to get into >the record business, but for some reason they were not >able to make it work. > >Other artists on the label were The Klowns (Barry >Bostwick!!) and I think that Andy Kim was also briefly >on the label. The Klowns were indeed part of the Ringling Brothers-Barnum and Bailey organization, but the only album and singles I know of were released on RCA Victor. If there are singles on Wheel produced by Jeff Barry, I'd sure like to find them. Don Charles --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 7 Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:40:36 -0400 From: John Clemente> Subject: Rock Flowers On Television Hello, I remember seeing the Rock Flowers appear on Wonderama with Bob McAllister. They sang (if I remember correctly) "Make It With Good Company", the same song featured in the toy commercials. I also remember the dolls having different names than the actual personnel of the group. I remember this because one of them had my sister's name, which was Rosemary. John Clemente --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End