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Volume #0066 04/12/98
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America's First Family of Fine Recordings
Subject: Re: Another Spin On Covers
Sent: 4/11/98 5:02 AM
Received: 4/11/98 8:43 AM
From: BashPop, BashXXX@XXXXXXm
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
<< Subject: Covers eclipsing the originals
From: le_page_XXX@XXXXXXies.com
Another spin on this thread: I was playing some Beatles
discs recently when Ticket to Ride came on. I was asked "Did
the Beatles record this Carpenters song?" Any other absurd
misconceptions out there?>>
Hi Jamie,
Yeah, when I was a kid back in 1968, I think, I saw a
variety show with Petula Clark as one of its guests. She
sang "A Little Help From My Friends", a song which I'd never
heard before. A few years later, when I heard the Beatles'
version, my first response was "Wow, The Beatles did that
song too?!"
Man, did I have a lot to learn!!!
--
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Take Care,
David
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Subject: Re: Spectropop V#0065
Sent: 4/11/98 7:48 AM
Received: 4/11/98 8:43 AM
From: Doc Rock, docroXXX@XXXXXXom
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
Yes, "Sharing You" was on Little Eva's Locomotion LP.
Doc
---[ archived by Spectropop - 04 /11/98 - 09 :13:04 PM ]---
Subject: Re: Spectropop V#0065 Lesley Gore
Sent: 4/11/98 4:27 AM
Received: 4/11/98 8:43 AM
From: Billy G. Spradlin, bilXXX@XXXXXXe.net
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
At 03:25 AM 4/11/98 +0900, you wrote:
>Now for this other weird thing: I already had the Mercury
>single-disc "Golden Hits of Lesley Gore" cd. My favoritest
>LG song of alltimes is "What Am I Gonna Do With You." Well
>sir, that song is also on this 2-disc set, but it's in a
>radically different mix; the single-disc version is better I
>think, instruments more up front and the voice centered in
>the stereo mix, and more correctly balanced in relation to
>the instruments. On the 2-disc set, though, the stereo mix
>is more extremely panned left and right, the instruments are
>more recessed, and the voice is in the right channel and
>kind of harsh sounding. What's up with these two different
>mixes?
I believe that the "Golden Hits" version is a ADD remix from
the original 3-4 track masters. Its one of the few times
that I have heard a ADD remix actually improved on the
original version. I bet the version on the 2-CD set is the
original LP mix. Her voice sounds like it was recorded in a
restroom! I love that song too, it should have been released
as a single.
Another weird thing is that there are two different versions
of "Look of Love". One version is very Spector-ish with
sleigh bells, handclaps and more compression and reverb that
appeared on the original "Golden Hits" LP. It also sounds
like someone sped the pitch up too. The other version is a
much cleaner sounding version without the sleigh bells,
compression, pitch control etc. and it appears on the "Golden
Hits" CD!
One wish for us 4-Seasons fans...A Singles collection with
all the MONO mixes of the original hits! (and for someone to
find "Ronnie" and "Huggin My Pillow" in stereo too!)
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Subject: What Am I Gonna Do With You
Sent: 4/11/98 9:27 PM
Received: 4/11/98 10:43 PM
From: le_page_XXX@XXXXXXies.com
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
Jack wrote:
>My favoritest LG song of alltimes is "What Am I Gonna Do
>With You" (from "Golden Hits of Lesley Gore")...also on this
>2-disc set, but in a radically different mix...
"What Am I Gonna Do With You" is my absolute favorite Lesley
Gore recording too. I just love the "Hey, baby" bits at the
end of the verses.
Without checking credits, I swore this was an L.A.
recording, string arrangement is Nitzsche or a perfect
simulation thereof, and it sounds to me like Gold Star and
the Wrecking Crew. When I checked the 2-disc set liners, it
said New York and Claus Ogermann, so I suddenly lost
confidence. Until then, I swore this was Nitzsche and Gold
Star. The liners mention that several months after My
Town... Pet went to L.A. to record with Nitzsche, but Off &
Running (btw Mindbenders too recorded a great version of
this) does not sound like Spector-era Gold Star. "What Am I
Gonna Do With You" does. It shares common elements with
"Expecting To Fly" by Buffalo Springfield, "Baby That's Me"
by the Cake and "You'll Be Needing..." by Nino & April. Or
am I imagining all this?
Another strange credit on the 2-disc set is Ogermann as
arranger on My Town My Guy & Me, which on the single disc is
credited as arranged by Don Costa, an L.A. arranger I
believe. Now, if "after" My Town Lesley went to L.A., but if
Costa and Nitzsche worked on the My Town recordings, then
what gives?
Finally, regarding the mixes, I can only guess that the
Golden Hits CD is a remix, because on the back it says
"mastered from the original 2, 03 & 4 track master tapes."
The 2-disc set is probably the original mix.
--
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Subject: Re: cover versions
Sent: 4/11/98 10:20 AM
Received: 4/11/98 9:53 PM
From: Big L, biXXX@XXXXXXmail.com
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
>>Good ( and Fun) cover versions, well the list could go on
forever but here's a start :
1. Over and Over/DC5
2. You Got What It Takes/DC5
3. Words Of Love/Beatles
4. Roll Over Beethoven/Beatles
5. Do You Wanna Dance/Beach Boys
6. My World Fell Down/Sagittarius
7. Dedicated To The One I Love/Mamas& Papas
8. Iko Iko/Dr. John
9 Younger Girl/The Critters
10. Little Honda/The Hondells
11. You Showed Me/The Turtles
12. The River Is Wide/The Grassroots
13. Laugh At Me/Mott The Hoople
14. Nobody But Me/The Human Beinz
15. Sugar & Spice/The Cryan Shames
16. Just Like Romeo & Juliet/Michael & The Messengers
17. Love Potion # Nine/The Searchers.
18. Hush/Deep Purple
19. Summertime Blues/Blue Cheer
20. Don't Think Twice It's All Right/The Wonder Who
I will accept #1, 02 , 05 , 07 , 15, 18 & 19 as fitting my
definition of a "stand alone" cover. I didn't know #6, 11,
14 & 20 were covers. I am not familiar with #8 and 13.
I feel that as far as #12, the version by Forum was far
superior, actually high on my list of all time favorites.
That thing just rocks. It wasn't a major hit, but the
station I was listening to, WKYC, played it incessantly.
Another case of Big Jack Armstrong taking a song he dug and
pushing it up to hit status
I have mixed feelings about #4. It was a great version, but
seems to me to be a little too close to the original to
qualify as "stand alone."
#9, 10 & 17 sound to me very close to the original.
Now, I will add:
You Keep Me Hangin' On - Vanilla Fudge
==
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Subject: Re: Dusty Springfield
Sent: 4/11/98 9:15 AM
Received: 4/11/98 9:53 PM
From: Marc Wielage, XXX@XXXXXXrax.com
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
JohnBarone <beachbXXX@XXXXXXmail.com> wrote:
>Don't know if this is old news here at Spectropop but I see
>that Mercury is finally releasing Dusty Springfield-The Very
>Best of, the week of April 21, on cd. Been holding out from
>buying one of those expensive imports.
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The Mercury DUSTY SPRINGFIELD ANTHOLOGY 3-disc boxed set has
been out in the U.S. for at least six months, on Mercury
314-553 5301-2.
My understanding is that the VERY BEST OF disc is just a
distillation of the 3-disc set. It's cheaper, but it omits
several significant songs.
Note, by the way, there are at least two phasey and/or fake-
stereo tracks on the Mercury set: "Losing You" and "Wishin
and Hopin'," which is very annoying. I suspect these same
mistakes will be on the new Mercury single disc collection.
--MFW
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Subject: Re: Girl Watchin'
Sent: 4/11/98 12:12 PM
Received: 4/11/98 9:53 PM
From: Paulurbahn, PaulurbXXX@XXXXXXm
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
In a message dated 98-04-10 14:34:12 EDT, you write:
<< Then you'd want to get Love Power: Hard to Find U.S. Hot 100
Hits of the 60s (Sequel 669), which has it in stereo. >>
Yes but the stereo version, If memory serves me has a guitar
break (solo) that is not on the hit mono version. Or is it
the other way around.
PaulurbXXX@XXXXXXm
Paul Urbahns
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Subject: Re: Lesley Gore 2 cd set
Sent: 4/11/98 12:10 PM
Received: 4/11/98 9:53 PM
From: Paulurbahn, PaulurbXXX@XXXXXXm
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
In a message dated 98-04-10 14:34:12 EDT, you write:
<< Now for this other weird thing: I already had the Mercury
single-disc "Golden Hits of Lesley Gore" cd. >>
Jack,
You will notice the song Look Of Love on the two Cd set is
the original hit single in stereo with the sleigh bell
overdub, whereas I believe the Golden Hits had the LP
version without the overdub. To me the overdub makes the
song.
Paul URbahns
paulurbXXX@XXXXXXm
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Subject: Re: Cover Versions
Sent: 4/11/98 10:12 PM
Received: 4/12/98 9:37 AM
From: Doc Rock, docroXXX@XXXXXXom
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
RE: Cover Versions. While Pat Boone is called the Cover
Artist, in fact only 60 of his 105 Billboard hits were
covers, and those were early in his career. Compare that
to Elvis, who covered endlessly, from the Blue Moons and
"Hound Dog," right up to "Kentucky Rain" and "Suspicious
Minds."
Even when songs were written for Elvis, he covered Demos by
PJ Proby, who imitated Elvis perfectly, and laid out the
vocal arrangments for EP on the demos. Often Elvis just
added his voice to PJs demo track. So the King of Rock and
Roll is also the King of Cover Versions!
Doc
---[ archived by Spectropop - 04 /12/98 - 10:59:01 AM ]---
Subject: Re: The Philadelphia Dimension continues...
Sent: 4/11/98 10:12 PM
Received: 4/12/98 9:37 AM
From: Doc Rock, docroXXX@XXXXXXom
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
>After Doc wrote that the Dimension recordings were actually
>demos for Philadelphia artists,
Well, that's not EXACTLY what I said. Lou Adler told me
that all of the COOKIES records were demos that did not get
picked up. And not all Dimension songs were aimed at PHILLY
artists anyway. "It Might As Well Rain Until September"
which was written for Bobby Vee in the "Take Good Care of My
Baby" style. But other than those details, you really are
right! I am sure that other Dimension records were demos,
like the Vee record, and that most were pitched in Philly!
Never thought of it just that way -- thanks!
Doc
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