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Volume #0065 04/11/98
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THE PERSONALITY SOUND of the SIXTIES
Subject: The Philadelphia Dimension continues...
Sent: 4/10/98 12:53 AM
Received: 4/10/98 1:42 AM
From: Jamie LePage, le_page_XXX@XXXXXXies.com
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXcom
After Doc wrote that the Dimension recordings were actually
demos for Philadelphia artists, and Jack chimed in with the
Don't Say Nothin'/Don't Hang Up comparison, I got out the
Dimension recordings and started listening again from the
Philly perspective. I think I ID'd another one:
School Bells are Ringing - Carole King (Dimension 1004).
Listen to the background vocals "pa-da pa-da." Sounds quite
a bit like a certain Claudine Clark record to me. Like
"Party Lights," the lyrical theme of the song is about
schoolgirl exuberance, and the rhythm of "School Bells" is
almost identical to that of "Party Lights."
Whaddya think?
About Sharing You by Little Eva, I am still confused. I
don't know of any Dimension single of Sharing You by Little
Eva, and it's not on Dimension Dolls. Was it on the original
Little Eva album?
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Subject: Crewe, Gore
Sent: 4/10/98 8:37 AM
Received: 4/11/98 1:57 AM
From: Jack Madani, Jack_MadXXX@XXXXXX2.nj.us
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
Say Doc, I just picked up the Mercury 2-disc Anthology of
Lesley Gore (awesome cover pic of Lesley with a pearl choker
and way cool beehive, btw), and I noticed there's a number
of Crewe credits on there. The booklet says he produced
California Nights (which she sang on Batman--I remember her
being on there, but I don't remember her singing!), and then
goes on to say that after her Mercury contract ended, she
"signed a new deal with Bob Crewe, who was starting his own
label. Three singles and a duet with Oliver on the
Fleetwoods' 'Come Softly To Me' were issued, but nothing
charted." Well this is all very interesting to me. I toss
it out there for your consideration. The Crewe-Gary Knight
song "Treat Me Like A Lady" is terrific, by the way, with
that Vivaldi Vibe flowing throughout the recording....
Now for this other weird thing: I already had the Mercury
single-disc "Golden Hits of Lesley Gore" cd. My favoritest
LG song of alltimes is "What Am I Gonna Do With You." Well
sir, that song is also on this 2-disc set, but it's in a
radically different mix; the single-disc version is better I
think, instruments more up front and the voice centered in
the stereo mix, and more correctly balanced in relation to
the instruments. On the 2-disc set, though, the stereo mix
is more extremely panned left and right, the instruments are
more recessed, and the voice is in the right channel and
kind of harsh sounding. What's up with these two different
mixes?
But wait, it gets worse. On the single disc, it says that
WAIGDWY is arranged by Jack Nitzsche, which I can totally
believe. But in the booklet for the 2-disc set, it says
that it's arranged by Claus Ogermann!! What the heck? Does
somebody know what the truth is here?
Hard to believe, by the way, that the same man (Ogermann)
could have arranged both Sunshine, Lollipops & Rainbows, as
well as Jobim's Wave album.
jack "warm California nights, with the breeze blowin' in" madani
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Subject: Girl watchin'
Sent: 4/10/98 1:26 PM
Received: 4/11/98 1:57 AM
From: FMYou, FMXXX@XXXXXXm
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
<<Music To Watch Girls By by the Bob Crewe Generation is one
of my alltime favorite "wish I had it on cd" songs.>>
Then you'd want to get Love Power: Hard to Find U.S. Hot 100
Hits of the 60s (Sequel 669), which has it in stereo.
Also (re: covers), I believe Bo Diddley did the original
"Who Do You Love," although the Woolies were first to bring
in into the Hot 100, 11 years after Bo cut his.
Frank
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Subject: Re: "Music to Watch Girls By"
Sent: 4/10/98 10:20 AM
Received: 4/11/98 1:57 AM
From: Marc Wielage, XXX@XXXXXXrax.com
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
CC: Jack Madani, Jack_MadXXX@XXXXXX2.nj.us
Jack Madani <Jack_MadXXX@XXXXXX2.nj.us> asked:
>Music To Watch Girls By by the Bob Crewe Generation is one
>of my alltime favorite "wish I had it on cd" songs.
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It is hard to find, but it's available on at least two CDs:
Love Power: Hard to Find US Hot 100 Hits of the 60s ~ Sequel
(UK) 669 (2:54 stereo)
Your Hit Parade - '60s Instrumentals: Take Two ~ Time-Life
HPD-39 (2:54 stereo - G sl. hiss)
The Time-Life CD is fairly easy to find via mail-order,
direct from TL.
--MFW
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Subject: Re: a bob crewe re-generation
Sent: 4/11/98 1:17 AM
Received: 4/11/98 1:57 AM
From: KingoGrief, KingoGrXXX@XXXXXXm
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
In a message dated 98-04-09 17:46:11 EDT, jack "you-beat-me-
to-the-paunch" madani writes:
<< Music To Watch Girls By by the Bob Crewe Generation is one
of my alltime favorite "wish I had it on cd" songs. I have
a scratchy copy of the vinyl lp (the cover of which, in
depicting the all-blond all-hunky all-Tab Hunter band of
musicians along with BC himself, is like a recruitment ad
for the Hitler Youth), but no cd. >>
"mtwbg" (on the infamous dynavoice label!) is one of the few
45's i've held on to since my collecting bug started
attacking me in kindergarten (i'll be 28 next month, to give
you perspective)...it was one of a big stack-o-wax that one
of my teachers in said school year gave me...most of the
others i've upgraded to disc, but that one remains
"digitally elusive"...anyone know who owns the rights to
those recordings? if i'm not mistaken, dynavoice was owned
by the amy/mala/bell triumvirate, so perhaps we should ring
clive davis...with the recent resurgence of bachelor-pad
kitsch, this track (and the whole lp, i'm sure) is a shoe-in
for rediscovery...
btw, jack...does that lp contain the groovy flipside, "girls
on the rocks"?
jeff
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Subject: Re: Bob Crewe
Sent: 4/10/98 8:48 AM
Received: 4/11/98 1:57 AM
From: BashPop, BashXXX@XXXXXXm
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
<< From: Doc Rock, docroXXX@XXXXXXom
In about 10 days, I will be doing an interview with Bob
Crewe...does anyone have any burning questions you'd like
to have asked? >>
Hi Doc,
Good luck with your interview! It should be fun!
I don't have any specific questions, but if you wouldn't
mind I have something I'd love for you to tell him! There's
a local band here in L.A. called The Mello Cads that does
live shows from time to time. Their lead singer, David
Ponak, does up that cad personna really well, and the band
covers several of the kitchiest 60s pop tunes that we all
know and love, one of which is "Music To Watch Girls By".
You don't generally hear it in it's vocal version, so it's a
real treat to see it performed that way.
Perhaps Bob would get a kick out of knowing this.
--
Spectropop Rules!!!!!
Take Care,
David
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Subject: Covers
Sent: 4/10/98 12:46 PM
Received: 4/11/98 1:57 AM
From: Richard Globman, rglobXXX@XXXXXXeocomm.net
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
Big L Started:
>>I have been thinking about cover versions. In my
>>estimation, here are some that became "stand alone"
>>versions, maybe better than the original, certainly
>>different enough to consider them on their own merits:
>>
>>Go Away Little Girl - Happenings
>>Who Do You Love - Woolies
>>Light My Fire - Jose Feliciano
>>Tracks Of My Tears - Johnny Rivers
>>Walk Away Renee - Four Tops
Doc Added:
>I believe that the Woolies record was the original version.
>Also, you mentioned "Last Kiss." That, too, was a cover
>version!
Jack Also Chimed In With:
>Heard It Through The Grapevine: Marvin Gaye/Gladys Knight &
>The Pips (plus, at the dawn of the seventies, a third cover
>by CCR)
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May I Add:
How Sweet It Is - Junior Walker
I Can Hear Music - Beach Boys
Help Me Rhonda - Johnny Rivers
Patches - Clarence Carter (originally by General Johnson, I think)
The Twist - Chubby Checker
I've Been Hurt - Rhondels (sorry 'bout that)
You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling - Dionne Warwick
Hey Baby - Buckwheat Zydeco
Try A Little Tenderness - 03 Dog Night
Pointless Covers:
Anything by Pat Boone
Sh-Boom (Crew Cuts)
Little Darlin' (Diamonds)
Anything I try to play on the piano
DICKYG
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Subject: Cover Versions
Sent: 4/10/98 1:15 PM
Received: 4/11/98 1:57 AM
From: Javed Jafri, javedjaXXX@XXXXXX.ca
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
> From: Doc Rock, docroXXX@XXXXXXom
> >Go Away Little Girl - Happenings
> >Who Do You Love - Woolies
> >Light My Fire - Jose Feliciano
> >Tracks Of My Tears - Johnny Rivers
> >Walk Away Renee - Four Tops
>
> I believe that the Woolies record was the original version.
> Also, you mentioned "Last Kiss." That, too, was a cover
> version!
> Doc
Hey Doc, regarding "Who Do You Love" don't forget about Bo
Diddley.
As far as Last Kiss the only versions I'm familiar with are
by Frank J. Wilson and Wednesday. I don't like either
version but then again I did not care much for Tell Laura I
Love Her, Teen Angel, Ebony Eyes or Honey and other such
laments.
Good ( and Fun) cover versions, well the list could go on
forever but here's a start :
1. Over and Over/DC5
2. You Got What It Takes/DC5
3. Words Of Love/Beatles
4. Roll Over Beethoven/Beatles
5. Do You Wanna Dance/Beach Boys
6. My World Fell Down/Sagittarius
7. Dedicated To The One I Love/Mamas& Papas
8. Iko Iko/Dr. John
9 Younger Girl/The Critters
10. Little Honda/The Hondells
11. You Showed Me/The Turtles
12. The River Is Wide/The Grassroots
13. Laugh At Me/Mott The Hoople
14. Nobody But Me/The Human Beinz
15. Sugar & Spice/The Cryan Shames
16. Just Like Romeo & Juliet/Michael & The Messengers
17. Love Potion # Nine/The Searchers.
18. Hush/Deep Purple
19. Summertime Blues/Blue Cheer
20. Don't Think Twice It's All Right/The Wonder Who
Javed
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Subject: Re: cover versions
Sent: 4/10/98 9:00 AM
Received: 4/11/98 1:57 AM
From: Big L, biXXX@XXXXXXmail.com
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
>I have been thinking about cover versions. In my
>estimation, here are some that became "stand alone"
>versions, maybe better than the original, certainly
>different enough to consider them on their own merits:
>
>Go Away Little Girl - Happenings
>Who Do You Love - Woolies
>Light My Fire - Jose Feliciano
>Tracks Of My Tears - Johnny Rivers
>Walk Away Renee - Four Tops
>I believe that the Woolies record was the original version.
>Also, you mentioned "Last Kiss." That, too, was a cover
>version!
Actually, "Who Do You Love" is a Bo Diddley song. Yes, the
Woolies version is so different it may as well be a
different song, which is exactly the point I was making.
When you say "Last Kiss" is a cover, do you mean J. Frank
Wilson, or the 70s version? No offense, but if I had to name
my all time least favorite records, that song, in any
version, comes in at number 2. I'll reveal my all time most
hated only if someone asks.
==
Big L
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Subject: Covers eclipsing the originals
Sent: 4/11/98 2:00 AM
Received: 4/11/98 2:03 AM
From: le_page_XXX@XXXXXXies.com
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
Here's an obvious one which I doubt many would disagree
with: Twist & Shout by the Top Notes. The Isleys version
was far superior, but when the Beatles took it to the top
ten of the US charts less than two years later, it became
known as a Beatles song, and it remains that until this
day.
Another spin on this thread: I was playing some Beatles
discs recently when Ticket to Ride came on. I was asked "Did
the Beatles record this Carpenters song?" Any other absurd
misconceptions out there?
--
le_page_XXX@XXXXXXies.com
RodeoDrive/5030
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Subject: Stereo Leader of the Pack
Sent: 4/11/98 1:26 AM
Received: 4/11/98 1:57 AM
From: KingoGrief, KingoGrXXX@XXXXXXm
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
In a message dated 98-04-09 17:46:11 EDT, jeff glenn writes:
<< I'm assuming the stereo mix of "Leader of the Pack" is
what's used on the Brill Building box (I'm not home right
now to check). This mix (missing the one line of the last
verse) is the original stereo mix as made back in the 60's
(I used to have a radio station various artists LP from the
60's that had the same mix). When I've seen this brought up
elsewhere (possibly in Goldmine) it was speculated that
sometime after the mono mix was made, but before the stereo,
the multitrack was damaged, and that the missing line edited
out of the stereo mix is where the damage was. >>
thanx for that info, namesake...i heard the stereo mix
several years ago on a european 3" cd (can't remember the
label or country of origin) that had the "find someone gnu"
line (the first line in the second verse, btw) missing...i
would have bought that cd if it weren't for that head-
scratching omission...
for the record, there were 3 other tracks on the cd3...as
you can probably guess, they were "remember (walking in the
sand)", "give him a great big kiss", and "i can never go
home anymore"...a quick fix of the shangri-las' biggest
hits...
jeff [the king of grief] (still haven't picked up that red
bird comp...what's wrong with me??)
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Subject: Re: Spectropop V#0064
Sent: 4/10/98 8:57 AM
Received: 4/11/98 1:57 AM
From: JohnBarone, beachbXXX@XXXXXXmail.com
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
Don't know if this is old news here at Spectropop but I see
that Mercury is finally releasing Dusty Springfield-The Very
Best of ,the week of April 21,on cd. Been holding out from
buying one of those expensive imports.
JohnBarone
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Subject: Re:Music To Watch Girls By
Sent: 4/10/98 10:28 PM
Received: 4/11/98 1:57 AM
From: Paulurbahn, PaulurbXXX@XXXXXXm
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXXXXies.com
In a message dated 98-04-09 19:40:03 EDT, you write:
<< Music To Watch Girls By by the Bob Crewe Generation is one
of my alltime favorite "wish I had it on cd" songs. I have
a scratchy copy of the vinyl lp (the cover of which, in
depicting the all-blond all-hunky all-TabHunter band of
musicians along with BC himself, is like a recruitment add
for the Hitler Youth), but no cd. >>
Please contact Sundazed, I did but these reissue labels
don't do anything unless they think there is a demand. I
would like to see Music on a two-fer with the Barbarella
Soundtrack.
Paul Urbahns
PaulurbXXX@XXXXXXm
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