http://www.spectropop.com ________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ There are 12 messages in this issue of Spectropop. Topics in this Digest Number 266: 1. PARADISE LIVE From: Mick Patrick 2. Re: Phil on Jeannie TV From: Alan Gordon 3. Hey Jeannie From: "GSPECTOR" 4. Re: Phil on Jeannie TV From: "Mike Arcidiacono" 5. Re: Spector From: Carol Kaye 6. Re: Trade Winds From: Stephane Rebeschini 7. Re: BOETTCHER'S BOOTIQUES From: pollicesteeve 8. Sunshine/Curt query From: "Kingsley Abbott" 9. Snuffy From: Doc Rock 10. Re: Snuff Garrett From: Stephane Rebeschini 11. Re: Snuff Garrett From: Marc Wielage 12. Gene Pitney/Harpers Bizarre From: Stewart Mason ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 22:31:58 +0100 (BST) From: Mick Patrick Subject: PARADISE LIVE Greetings, I had cause to flick through some of the old Phil Spector Appreciation Society newsletters recently. How gushing and polite they were. Take the review of Ronnie Spector's 1979 London shows. That's not how it was at all. Here's a less rose-tinted review of that event...... The set list consisted of "Be Me Baby", "Baby I Love You", "Do I Love You", "The Best Part Of Breaking Up", "Walking In The Rain", "So Young", "It's A Heartache", "Say Goodbye To Hollywood" and, believe it or not, "Boogie Oogie Oogie". I seem to recall wondering if that last song would EVER end. The young man Ronnie invited up on to the stage to dance with her seemed to be enjoying himself, though. Someone rushed on to give Miss Ronette a huge bouquet of flowers before she vanished into the wings for a drink. As the stomping and yelling finally subsided we patrons began vacating our tables to venture out into the cold streets of London. It was then announced via the P.A. that we were all invited to remain in our seats and stay for the second show. I emerged dishevelled from the stampede to find myself sharing a front table with two rather loud and drunken pals. I sensed a commotion and as i looked up I realised that one of my companions had gotten rather warm and had dropped her dungarees and removed her T shirt to cool off. The audience yelled for more and she told them to "Eff off". But I digress. Ronnie and her band played the same set for the midnight crowd. As before, "Boogie Oogie Oogie" lasted forever with Ronnie topping her previous performance by undoing some punter's fly with her teeth during her extended dance routine. The audience were SO impressed. Certain members of the crowd had become particularly vocal by this time. "Try Some, Buy Some", they screamed. "We don't do that one", Ronnie purred. "Then He Kised Me". "Hey, that's not one of mine". "Is This What I Get For Loving", they retaliated. "OK", said Ronnie as she launched into an a cappella rendition. "I Wonder!". She sang a bit of that one too. And "I Wish I Never Saw The Sunshine". AND "PARADISE". With her repertoire now totally exhausted and pausing only to accept another bouquet (actually the same bunch of flowers from the first show) Ronnie ran off the stage. She reappeared briefly and, as one final encore, lifted up her bolero top to reveal her breasts. They were far less pendulous than my friend Margaret's. I awoke the next morning to discover that I had totally lost my voice. I wonder how much I'll remember of this sow in another twenty-odd years. Anyone else out there see Ronnie perform "Paradise" live? MICK PATRICK --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:44:18 -0700 From: Alan Gordon Subject: Re: Phil on Jeannie TV Wasn't it : "I Wonder What She's Doing Tonight"? Al Babe Mark Landwehr wrote: > Hey, Spectropoppers...I would like to know the name of > one of the songs done by Boyce & Hart on the "I Dream of > Jeannie" episode that Uncle Phil appeared in... > > The episode was called "Jeannie the Hip Hippie" I believe, > and B&H sang "Out and About" and one other song...I saw > it, but the mind is weak...I figure if anyone knows, it's > the Spectropop gang!!! > --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:25:16 -0600 From: "GSPECTOR" Subject: Hey Jeannie Mark Landwehr wrote: > "Hey, Spectropoppers...I would like to know the name of > one of the songs done by Boyce & Hart on the "I Dream of > Jeannie" episode that Uncle Phil appeared in... > > The episode was called "Jeannie the Hip Hippie" I believe, > and B&H sang "Out and About" and one other song...I saw > it, but the mind is weak...I figure if anyone knows, it's > the Spectropop gang!!! After listening to the episode again, I think the 1st song they sang was called "Hey" but that's only a guess since they gave no titles at the end of the show. Just wondering, Uncle Phil? >From the Keyboard of: Gary Spector Not just another P.S. Fan, His Son.? --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 4 Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 20:39:21 -0400 From: "Mike Arcidiacono" Subject: Re: Phil on Jeannie TV > The episode was called "Jeannie the Hip Hippie" I believe, > and B&H sang "Out and About" and one other song...I saw > it, but the mind is weak...I figure if anyone knows, it's > the Spectropop gang!!! the other song was "Girl I'm Out To Get You" Mikey --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 5 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:12:14 -0700 From: Carol Kaye Subject: Re: Spector > As far as Phil being portrayed as a taskmaster and not > easy to work for, it never shows on these tapes. No, Spector was never hard to work for, wasn't a "taskmaster" except....that sometimes he wouldn't observe Union-mandated breaks and tho' we were all game for working long hours - no problem, it got a bit much to do go without bathroom breaks sometimes. He respected us tho', was good to work for and sometimes fun too...altho' a few musicians and singers later said some other things. It got boring tho' doing 1 song for 3 hours. I doubt if the friendly insulting would ever be allowed on any tape tho'......sometimes you felt like it was "group therapy" when Phil got a little playful but mostly, musicians would tease him back, except one who walked out on one date. Carol Kaye http://www.carolkaye.com/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 6 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:15:25 +0200 From: Stephane Rebeschini Subject: Re: Trade Winds Kingsley Abbott wrote: > Now to return to our sort of pop, I noticed the brief > phrase 'mind excursion' used which of course reminded me > of that great Anders/Poncia Trade Winds song. Does > anyone have any info on where they are and what they're > doing at present? Record execs somewhere? Still > writing? I'd love to hear if anyone knows. Also if > there are any more Trade Winds tracks hidden away > anywhere... Their (Anders/Poncia) writing and recording > still is one of my very favourite sixties moments. > > Kingsley Abbott -------- Bonjour de France As you probably know, Anders (real name :Peter Andreoli) and Vinnie Poncia also recorded as The Innocence (one LP on Kama Sutra). Circa 1970 they released another LP as "Anders & Poncia" on Warner (with some fine Ry Cooder interventions on guitar), produced by Richard Perry. They also created and managed the Map City label and mostly released heavy rock, pop groups and black soul/rock acts between 1969 & 1973. Anders released a solo LP in 1972 on Family Productions Records and seems to have stopped recording after that. During the 70's, Poncia was credited on several albums of Ringo Starr as a singer and songwriter. He also cowrote "I Was Made For Loving You Baby" for Kiss, the hard rock group...With the royalties of this hit, I guess he was able to go on long holidays and apparently stopped to write or record. Stephane Rebeschini --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 7 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 14:12:44 EDT From: pollicesteeve Subject: Re: BOETTCHER'S BOOTIQUES I've got 2 Boettcher rarities cd one of them present 2 tracks from the Bootigues (with a "g" in the name as it's written on the back of the cover) called "Did You Get Fun?" & "Mr Man On The Moon" I got this information. It looks like a single. Don't know which a side is. Year: 1966 released number: Date, 1513 . Sorry that's all. But I can give you a web page of Boettcher information (kind of a trade list, don't know if I can post it here). E-mail me off list. I hope it can help. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 8 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:59:29 +0100 From: "Kingsley Abbott" Subject: Sunshine/Curt query With ref to Brian C's query about possible Curt Boettcher involvement with The Sunshine Company, I don't know of any beyond him being the writer of a couple of their album tracks ('I Just Want To be Your Friend' on the first album and 'If You Only Knew' on the second one, the latter being credited to Curtis Boettcher). The SC wrote a lot of their own material, especially after the first album, and were otherwise noted for some perceptive choices of other writers to cover (eg Steve Gillette and the Boylans). I am in indirect contact with SC mainman Maury Manseau, so I will try to check further and report back. Kingsley Abbott PS For any British fans, Brian Wilson is confirmed playing London's Royal Festival Hall on Jan 28/29/30 2002. Anyone who knows me will understand how pleased I am to write this!!! Phone London Number 0207 960 4242 (RFH box office) for tickets. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 9 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 20:22:44 -0400 From: Doc Rock Subject: Snuffy > Snuff was strictly a POP producer. When hooked up with > the right singer (Vee, Lewis, Hyland) song and studio > pro's he could work Top 40 magic. BTW did Snuff ever > work with any female singers/groups? Just Curious! > > Billy Snuffy produced Vikki Carr's "He's A Rebel!" Doc --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 10 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 16:22:22 +0200 From: Stephane Rebeschini Subject: Re: Snuff Garrett "Billy G. Spradlin" wrote: > > Snuff was strictly a POP producer. When hooked up with > the right singer (Vee, Lewis, Hyland) song and studio > pros he could work Top 40 magic. BTW did Snuff ever > work with any female singers/groups? Just Curious! > > Billy --------- Bonjour de France In the 50's, Snuff Garrett worked for a while with Julie London. In 1974, he produced an awful "lounge pop" album "Like Good Wine" for Brenda Patterson, an excellent Memphis singer. She has a great voice but the album is a total disaster, marred by strings, strings and more strings. Stephane Rebeschini --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 11 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:23:51 -0700 From: Marc Wielage Subject: Re: Snuff Garrett Monophonius commented on the SpectroPop group: > To quote Mark Ribowsky: "Garrett was, in Phil's mind, > the only L.A. producer who really mattered in Sixties > rock." > > There is little mention of Garrett hereabouts and I'm > wondering why? Let's make some comparisons. > > Phil produced eighteen (18) Top 10 records starting in > 1958. Snuff produced twenty-two (22) Top 10 records > starting in 1960. >-----------------------------<snip>----------------------------< Small correction: Spector had TWENTY-ONE Top 10 records on the U.S. BILLBOARD charts, as follows: 9/8/1958 | #1 (3 wks.) - The Teddy Bears: "To Know Him, Is to Love Him" 11/7/1960 | #9 (2 wks.) - Ray Peterson: "Corinna, Corinna" 12/17/1960 | #10 (1 wk.) - Ben E. King: "Spanish Harlem" 6/19/1961 | #7 (3 wks.) - Curtis Lee: "Pretty Little Angel Eyes" 8/21/1961 | #5 (1 wk.) - The Paris Sisters: "I Love How You Love Me" 4/28/1962 | #7 (2 wks.) - Connie Francis: "Second Hand Love" 8/25/1962 | #1 (2 wks.) - The Crystals: "He's a Rebel" 11/3/1962 | #8 (1 wk.) - Bob B. Soxx & The Blue Jeans: "Zip-A-Dee Doo-Dah" 4/13/1963 | #3 (1 wk.) - The Crystals: "Da Doo Ron Ron" 8/3/1963 | #6 (3 wks.) - The Crystals: "Then He Kissed Me" 8/17/1963 | #2 (3 wks.) - The Ronettes: "Be My Baby" 11/28/1964 | #1 (2 wks.) - The Righteous Brothers: "You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'" 3/27/1965 | #9 (2 wks.) - The Righteous Brothers: "Just Once in My Life" 7/3/1965 | #4 (2 wks.) - The Righteous Brothers: "Unchained Melody" 11/20/1965 | #5 (2 wks.) - The Righteous Brothers: "Ebb Tide" 2/19/1966 | #1 (3 wks.) - The Righteous Brothers: "(You're My) Soul and Inspiration" 2/14/1970 | #3 (3 wks.) - John Ono Lennon: "Instant Karma (We All Shine On)" 11/14/1970 | #1 (4 wks.) - George Harrison: "My Sweet Lord" 11/14/1970 | #1 (B-side) - George Harrison: "Isn't It a Pity" 2/13/1971 | #10 (1 wk.) - George Harrison: "What Is Life" 10/9/1971 | #3 (2 wks.) - John Lennon & The Plastic Ono Band: "Imagine" Granted, "Spanish Harlem" was a co-production with Leiber & Stoller, and some contend that Bill Medley produced or co-produced "Unchained Medley." And the Lennon & Harrison solo hits were also co-productions (plus "Isn't It a Pity" was a B-side of a 2-sided hit). But regardless, there's a lotta hits there. And I agree with you that Snuff Garrett is a producer who's not remembered as much as he should be. Seven Top 10 hits alone with Gary Lewis ain't bad, and I believe he also did several of Cher's major solo hits as well, along with Brian Hyland and Gene McDaniels. --MFW -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- -= Marc Wielage | "The computerized authority =- -= MusicTrax, LLC | on rock, pop, & soul." =- -= Chatsworth, CA | =- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 12 Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 12:07:53 -0600 From: Stewart Mason Subject: Gene Pitney/Harpers Bizarre Gene's playing a Rock and Roll Revival show here in Albuquerque (with full orchestra, according to the radio ads) on Saturday. Has anybody seen our Gene recently? Has he still got his chops, or will it just make me sad and uncomfortable? (I'm assuming that the opening act, David Sommerville of the Diamonds, will make me sad and uncomfortable all by himself.) Also, any word yet on Sundazed's new Harpers Bizarre reissues? I have no choice but to buy them eventually (not least so I can review them for one of my outlets, because I've been looking for an excuse to do a "Harpers Bizarre kicked ass" story for years) but I'm a bit skint at the moment. How's the liner notes and such? Perry? Any stories about the HB sessions? I've often detected a subtle but unmistakable whiff of brattiness and deliberate perversity in their music, which is why it's always frustrated me that to the extent they're thought of at all, they're dismissed as lightweight choirboys. Clearly, they were really sunshine pop's Steely Dan! Stewart --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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