________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ Crisp, clear, sparkling -- Perfect even at high volume ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 13 messages in this issue of Spectropop. Topics in this Digest Number 292: 1. Brooks Arthur From: "Bill Reed" 2. definitions From: John Rausch 3. M&M & the Peanuts From: "David Feldman" 4. Re: Fifth Estate From: "Paul Payton" 5. soul to surf From: John Rausch 6. re: Girl Group Gems "Soul to Surf" From: "Jack Madani" 7. Kenny Karen/Gayle Haness From: "Don Charles" 8. Donna Loren From: Jimmy Crescitelli 9. Phil Spector Outtakes From: Peter van Dam 10. Re: Phil Spector Outtakes From: "Jean Emmanuel Dubois" 11. For Ellie Greenwich Collectors Only From: "Don Charles" 12. Re: Fifth Estate From: Tony Waitekus 13. Jeff, forgive me, set list comparison request, and Darlene alert From: "Spector Collector" ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 03:16:39 -0000 From: "Bill Reed" Subject: Brooks Arthur Not since my Little Peggy March sings in German CD "find" of last week have I come across one so interesting as today's Goodwill treasure: "Songs Are Like Prayers" by Brooks Arthur (1998). It's an album of Jewish and/or Jewish-community related songs such as "Sunrise Sunset", "Sheyn Vi Di L'Vone" (duet with Lainie Kazan), "Anniversay Song" and nine others. What does all this have to do with Spectropop you might wonder? Well, according to what little info I can find on Arthur both on the web and in my own library: (from the Spector bio "He's a Rebel) "After constant arguments, by early 1964 Bill MacMeekin, the engineer who had worked most of Phil's sessions since 'Pretty Little Angel Eyes,' had had enough. He gave the assignment to a bright, antsy twenty-year-old named Brooks Arthur, who was nicely suited to the difficult job." After that, he was on every remaining Spector NY session. I gather that Arthur produced or engineered a lot of material, including the first three Janis Ian albums, Dixie Cups, Astrud Gilberto, Van Morrison, Bette Midler, Tim Hardin, the post-Cameo Dusty Springfield, etc. and that he also, himself, recorded for such labels as Collegiate, Carlton and Capitol. He describes himself as being , as a singer, "caught in the cracks between crooning and rock 'n' roll." Arthur's extensive liner notes read like a veritable who's who of the Brill Bldg. and Spectropop. He thanks and/or references everyone from Howard Greenfield ("G_ d took you too soon. . .We know you and Torrie are together in heaven again.") Mann & Weil, Goffin & King, Neil Diamond, Bert Berns, Dionne Warwick, Toni Wine, Cissy Houston, Artie Butler, Leiber and Stoller, Patti Austin, Phil Ramone, Carole Bayer Sager, and "my girl groups" The Angels, Chiffons, Cookies, Crystals, Dixie Cups, Fashions, Jelly Beans, Ronettes, Neil Sedaka, Al Kasha, Aldon Music, Shagri-Las, Shirelles, et al. He also makes passing reference to his extensive career as a Brill Bldg demo singer. A songwriter as well, I think. Sounds like an interesting enough chap. As for the CD itself, I basically bought if for its curio value, but have played it once already and find if quite affecting. Accompanied on piano by arranging ace Mort Garson, Arthur possesses a youthful sounding boy baritone, remindful of those crooners he points to as holding a place "very dear to my heart": Eddie Fisher, Jerry Vale, Steve Lawrence, Al Martino, Bobby Darin and Dick Roman. Interestingly (and tellingly?) just about the only name missing from the entire megilla (sic) is that of Phil Spector. Bill Reed --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 22:07:44 -0500 From: John Rausch Subject: definitions This has been on my mind off and on and finally remember to ask. Can someone give a definition of the term "Northern Soul" Another term that pops up as a definition is called "popcorn" I see records/songs described with these 2 terms either on ebay or in Discoveries and Goldmine record magazines. Thanks John Rausch --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 3 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:55:49 -0500 From: "David Feldman" Subject: M&M & the Peanuts Does anyone know anything about this group, who performed the single, "Do the Philly." I love the song, which exudes much more emotion than a song about a dance had any right to do. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 4 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:10:32 -0500 From: "Paul Payton" Subject: Re: Fifth Estate Jeff Lemlich asks, "Who is the female voice on "How Can I Ever Find A Way" by the Fifth Estate?" I don't know, but go to www.bostonskylinerecords.com and ask owner Wayne Wadhams, who's group it was. His e-mail address is there, and I think he'd be tickled that people still care about the group. Paul --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 5 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:54:57 -0500 From: John Rausch Subject: soul to surf Jamie wrote: > Has anyone got this CD yet? If so, how about a little > review? Looks like most of those tracks (9) were already issued on a Mick Patrick comp for ACE called Playin Hard To Get (west coast girls) Some great tracks. John Rausch --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 6 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 12:04:12 -0500 From: "Jack Madani" Subject: re: Girl Group Gems "Soul to Surf" >Many of us have seen Girl Group Gems "Soul to Surf" >advertised on Donna Loren's website. > >It's released by "Red-Bird Entertainment" and features >the Red Bird record company logo. It's not in the local >Tower or Virgin. > >Red Bird??? I'm pretty sure none of the tracks on the CD >are/were Red Bird masters. What gives? Indeed. Seems more like all the tracks are from the Del-Fi stable of artists. In fact, there's so much overlap with the Del-Fi girlgroups anthology of a year or so ago that I decided against purchasing the "Red-Bird" disc. Jack --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 7 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 17:10:24 +0000 From: "Don Charles" Subject: Kenny Karen/Gayle Haness >--- In Spectropop, "Spector Collector" wrote: > > ...Kenny Karen's "Susie Forgive Me" A reminder for any Archies fans out there: Kenny Karen was Don Kirshner's original choice to be lead singer of this studio group, according to songwriter Mark Barkan. >...classic "Johnny Ander" by Gayle Haness. I would KILL for information about any of the Gayle Haness singles written and produced by Jeff Barry - not to mention what I'd do in order to hear them! Don Charles --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 8 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 22:34:57 EST From: Jimmy Crescitelli Subject: Donna Loren Is she the artiste who recorded the fabulous "Muscle Bustle?" What a GREAT cut. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 9 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 15:47:39 -0000 From: Peter van Dam Subject: Phil Spector Outtakes Hi Folks, The 5 CD set of Phil Spector Outtakes is worth for futher study in detail, who played what on those existing tracks, the way Phil Spector recorded his tracks. etc. It is an extremely interesting piece of musical history. Yours faithfully, Peter van Dam - Netherlands --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 10 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 12:10:38 +0200 (MET) From: "Jean Emmanuel Dubois" Subject: Re: Phil Spector Outtakes -Dear friends-and fans of Mr Spector Where can I get these Phil Spector outakes in France or Europa? + do you have the contact of the Japanese label that did release "Phil Spector off the Wall"+ a Jack Nitzsche anthology-i'm looking for these too. Thanx in advance Dubois Jean-Emmanuel --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 11 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2001 17:04:31 +0000 From: "Don Charles" Subject: For Ellie Greenwich Collectors Only The Raindrops album and Ellie Greenwich's two solo albums have all been reissued on CD. Isn't it time the Broadway cast album of LEADER OF THE PACK got the digital sound treatment? And what about the never-issued Bottom Line version? Along those same lines . . . with a sufficient licensing budget, and a record label that really believes in the project, I could compile an Ellie Greenwich singles compilation which would be far more satisfying than anything that's currently available. Any of you entrepreneurial types out there willing to take me up on this offer? Don Charles --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 12 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 08:49:55 -0600 From: Tony Waitekus Subject: Re: Fifth Estate Jeff Lemlich asks: > "Who is the female voice on "How Can I Ever Find A Way" > by the Fifth Estate?" I asked Bill Jerome about this. He was one of the producers for the Fifth Estate. He says there was never any female in this group. Tony Waitekus WHTS/All Hit 98-9 Hit Radio, Inc. 3535 E. Kimberly Rd. Davenport, IA 52807 Phone: 563-344-9487 Fax: 563-344-7037 http://www.allhit989.com --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 13 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 07:17:11 +0000 From: "Spector Collector" Subject: Jeff, forgive me, set list comparison request, and Darlene alert In our last episode, Jeff Limlich took me to task for misstating a couple of months ago that Kenny Karen's "Susie Forgive Me" wasn't a death record, only a near-death one. Jeff's the second one to do so (I realize that he's catching up with backlogged digests), and I want to reiterate that, as promised in my last apologetic post, I will never again rely on my increasingly faulty memory when posting! I know that no one's yet come forward to state whether there were any differences between the broadcast version of the recent A&E Brill Building series and the home video version (and I'd like to know the ansewr to that too), but I have the same question regarding the slightly older PBS "Hey La, Hey La, the Girl Groups Are Back" special. I've finally obtained the home video version of this one (unbelievably, it was never shown here in Seattle), and I know that one difference between it and the one that aired is that on the broadcast version, Ronnie Spector sings "Baby I Love You," "(The Best Part of) Breakin' Up," and "Walking in the Rain," which are excised, for licensing reasons, from the home video version in favor of "Say Goodbye to Hollywood." So what I want to know is whether there are any other discrepancies between the two versions. Following is the complete running order from the commercially available video; would someone please compare this with the set list from the televised show and let me know what, if any, other differences there are? Many thanks in advance. SHIRELLES: Mama Said Baby It's You Tonight's the Night Foolish Little Girl ANGELS: My Boyfriend's Back Cry Baby Cry MARTHA REEVES & THE VANDELLAS Heatwave Nowhere to Run DARLENE LOVE: He's a Rebel He's Sure the Boy I Love Don't Make Me Over CHIFFONS: Sweet Talkin' Guy One Fine Day ANGELS: Til LALA BROOKS: Then He Kissed Me There's No Other (Like My Baby) Uptown Da Doo Ron Ron SHIRELLES: Soldier Boy I Met Him on a Sunday Dedicated to the One I Love Will You Love Me Tomorrow RONNIE SPECTOR: Say Goodbye to Hollywood MARTHA REEVES AND THE VANDELLAS: Come and Get These Memories Jimmy Mack Dancing in the Street Finally, speaking of Darlene Love, heads up: appropriately enough, she occupies the "grand finale" spot on the newest installment in the "A Very Special Christmas" series of CDs benefiting the Special Olympics (this is volume five). Brilliantly ressurecting the arrangement and phrasing from the Spector Christmas album, she sounds as powerful as ever. Whenever someone finds out the date that she'll do her annual performance of "Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)" on Letterman, please let the group know. In my next post, I'll list the cover versions of that classic song with which I'm familiar and invite y'all to add ones I've missed, so start researching now! David A. Young --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End
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