________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ Color radio - Channel 98 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 13 messages in this issue of Spectropop. Topics in this Digest Number 318: 1. Happy Stewball Everyone From: LePageWeb 2. RE: Garry Bonner From: "Phil Chapman" 3. Arrangers with class From: "Ian Chapman" 4. deck the halls with love From: John Rausch 5. The Vogues' "You're the One" Again From: Greg Matecko 6. Re Brenda Holloway / Tammi Terrell From: Richard Williams 7. Re: Patrice Holloway From: Phil Houldershaw 8. Re: Marvin and Tammi's "Complete Duets" From: Mike W 9. Re: The Vogues' "You're the One" Again From: "Mike Arcidiacono" 10. FELICE TAYLOR From: "Ian Slater" 11. Martin's Odyssey From: "Phil Chapman" 12. RE: Martin's Odyssey From: "Keith Beach" 13. The Liquid Room-12/8/01 From: "David Ponak" ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 11:35:08 +0900 From: LePageWeb Subject: Happy Stewball Everyone Thanks to Jeff Lemlich, Paul Underwood, Thomas Malmgren and everyone else who confirmed the Happy X'mas - Stewball connection. That's the one! I remember hearing it on the "Come Back to Jamaica" TV advert and thinking it was a clever way to get a John Lennon song on a commercial without paying Yoko Ono a zillion dollars. Richard Williams wrote "if you could put the melodies of I Love How You Love Me and Stewball into a blender, what you'd get would be Happy Xmas (War Is Over)." Yes, I certainly see that. Also, Richard wrote "...Spector mentioned it, Lennon confirmed it, and they both had a good laugh." That sounds close enough. Thanks, Richard. Whoever mentioned it first, it makes sense that everyone would joke about it during the sessions. Like when the track is playing back sans vocal, Spector leans over to John and starts singing "I Love How it's Christmas..." and everyone breaks up. Group discussion has been very interesting lately, due in large part to the enthusiasm of new(ish) members. Keep up the good work! Jamie -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 2 Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:27:56 -0000 From: "Phil Chapman" Subject: RE: Garry Bonner Paul Payton: >- Garry Bonner's delicate and exquisite "Me About You" on >Columbia (passionate vocal, beautiful period arrangement; This tune was recorded by Jackie DeShannon (prod & arr. Jack Nitzsche) as the title track to a 1968 album. There are two other Bonner/Gordon songs on this album: "I'm With You" and "Whatever Happened To Happy". Are there other recordings of these songs? Phil -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 23:47:52 -0000 From: "Ian Chapman" Subject: Arrangers with class Lindsay wrote: > I've been looking at a Reprise single I have of Trini > Lopez's "Up To Now": fabulous dramatic brassy > arrangement by Don Costa (and it's nothing like the more > familiar Trini of "Lemon Tree"-with-audience-backgound). > Anyone here familiar with it? Oh yeah, Lindsay - great record. So is a sightly earlier uptempo Reprise single of his, "Your Ever Changin' Mind"/"Takin' The Back Roads" - this too is arranged by Don Costa. I think you're spot on with your observation about arrangers either with a big band background, or who worked with artists usually considered MOR. - they do lend an indefinable quality to pop records. Apart from Don Costa, names like Ernie Freeman, Claus Ogerman and Robert Mersey come to mind. I think Reprise records are always worthy of close inspection as they seemed to use more than a few such quality arrangers. Ian -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 20:28:43 -0500 From: John Rausch Subject: deck the halls with love Darlene Love will be at the KAYE Playhouse which is on East 68 Street between Park and Lexington aves.NYC. The Show is for Friday December 21, 2001 at 8:00. John Rausch -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 5 Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 12:25:52 -0500 (EST) From: Greg Matecko Subject: The Vogues' "You're the One" Again Sorry I'm late on this thread folks. The story I had always heard about "You're The One" was that the track was originally recorded here in Pittsburgh by The Racket Squad. Producer Nick Cenci pulled singer Sonny DiNunxio's vocal off the track and replaced it with the Vogues. The original version has just a guitar solo, while later releases feature a string section along with the guitar. I've never a/b's the CO-CE and Reprise versions, and our Carol says she played on many of the Vogues' dates. Was this completely re-recorded, or were just the strings overdubbed? It's kinda obvious that the later dates were done by the California crew. Sonny DiNunzio supposedly felt that this robbed him of a national hit, but his R'n'B type vocals just wouldn't have been the same, and the song probably would not have been a hit. There was a bit of a payback, though - on the Rhino Vogues CD, "True Lovers" was written by DiNunzio. The Racket Squad released two albums, and both have been released on CD by Collectibles with bonus tracks. Check out "That's How Much I Love My Baby" - that SHOULD have been a hit! Greg Matecko -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 6 Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 16:54:49 +0000 From: Richard Williams Subject: Re Brenda Holloway / Tammi Terrell There's good interview material with Brenda Holloway, mostly on the subject of Tammi Terrell, in Ben Edmonds' very nice little book on Marvin Gaye and What's Going On, the first in a series of mini-hardbacks called Mojo Heroes, just published in the UK. (Usual disclaimers...) Richard Williams -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 7 Date: 12 Dec 2001 10:06:25 +0000 From: Phil Houldershaw Subject: Re: Patrice Holloway Simon White wrote: > > > does anyone know if there are enough Patrice Holloway > > recordings available to make a decent CD compilation? > > There are just about enough if you count the unreleased > stuff around now... Wow - I never realised Patrice recorded enough for an album at Motown. Does anyone have any track details? - I've heard 'Those DJ shows' from one of the belgian BELMAR cd's - and I think its fair to say she did a better job on it than Diana Ross. -- -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 8 Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 15:18:18 -0000 From: Mike W Subject: Re: Marvin and Tammi's "Complete Duets" --- In Spectropop, "John Lester" wrote: > > Are we all aware that once you start to play the first > track on disc one of this 2 cd set - "Aint No Mountain > High Enough", you have to hit the rewind button and go > back into the minus part go back at least one minute to > reveal a bonus track. > > I assume most of you here have this 2 CD set - if you > don't, you ought to. It's got unreleased solo Tammi > recordings on and if you couple that with Tammi's UK > Spectrum CD it means that there is little left that you > haven't got (excluding live recordings and let's not go > there!) Dear John Lester, For the unitiated, tell us about the Spectrum recordings and the live stuff available...also tell us what the bonus track is on the new 2CD set ! Thanks so much ! Yours, mikenyc -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 9 Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 23:51:19 -0500 From: "Mike Arcidiacono" Subject: Re: The Vogues' "You're the One" Again > The story I had always heard about "You're The One" > was that the track was originally recorded here in > Pittsburgh by The Racket Squad. Producer Nick Cenci > pulled singer Sonny DiNunxio's vocal off the track and > replaced it with the Vogues. Greg, my understanding is that The Vogues recording was a different one than The Racket Squads. The original backing track still exists as a 4 track tape. This was mixed to one side of a two track tape, was brought to New York, The Vogues added their vocals to the other side of the tape. This was then mixed to mono for the 45. The Two track tape was lost, but has now been located, and will be released on a Varese vintage Comp in 2002. After 37 years, we will FINALLY get to hear 'Youre The One" in True stereo!!! > The original version has just a guitar solo, while later > releases feature a string section along with the guitar. > Was this completely re-recorded, or were just the strings > overdubbed? It's kinda obvious that the later dates were > done by the California crew. Greg, they were overdubbed. When Reprise had big hits with The Vogues "Turn Around" and 'My Special Angel" , they issued a greatest hits LP, and the got tape copies of all the Co&Ce hits. They then overdubbed an entire orchestra over the Co tracks. They did this to better match the Reprise stuff, all of which had heavy orchestra backing. Also to match the wide stereo mixes of their own stuff. The Reprise hits were done by The Wrecking Crew, as you mentioned. You can't miss Hal Blaine's 8 scaled Tom Toms on 'Turn Around". hope this helps. Mikey -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 10 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 08:51:20 -0000 From: "Ian Slater" Subject: FELICE TAYLOR Further to the recent discussions about Felice, I've upoaded the picture sleeve of her UK only single to the "Miscellaneous Photos" folder in the Photos section of the Member's area. Hope I did it right - not tried that before! http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/lst Now, anybody got a picture of the Sweets (the group she was in), or any of the other "Valiant" girl groups - the Cannon Sisters, the Joys, the Tiaras and Musique & the Lyrics? Ian Slater -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 11 Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 10:58:09 -0000 From: "Phil Chapman" Subject: Martin's Odyssey Martin: > Also around this time, perhaps a bit earlier Ian's > granddad Phil was sending out the first writings of The > Phil Spector Appreciation Society. These make great > reading but lose a bit of impact for knowing of them so > late in the day. Yes, it was man's work in those days; hammering the vellum and pulling the Caxton Press:-) Admittedly, Martin, my newsletters were pre-decimalisation, but post-war rationing and conscription had ceased, paving the way for a youth-centric society in which teenagers could do, say and print what they liked - just as in the film "Smashing Time"! These amateur offerings of mine were great fun to prepare, but I've not dared to look at them since, and I cringe to think that they are securely archived. I agree, my 'grandson', who has the ears of a bat, did a much better job - I was impressed by his column, although he wasn't always sure he could pull it off. All that hands-on in the early years didn't go to waste! [Panto' season is here again:-)] Happy Xmas Phil -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 12 Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 10:10:22 -0000 From: "Keith Beach" Subject: RE: Martin's Odyssey Phil Chapman wrote: > Panto' season is here again:-) "OH NO IT ISN'T !!!!!!!!" Keith Beach -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- Message: 13 Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 15:42:28 -0500 From: "David Ponak" Subject: The Liquid Room-12/8/01 The Liquid Room, (usually) hosted by David Ponak (me), airs every Saturday night from Midnight to 3AM (PDT) on 90.7FM KPFK Los Angeles, as well as streaming at http://kpfk.org. The Liquid Room-12/8/01: 1.The Association/Come On In Birthday (WB) 2.Chappie/Welcome Morning New Chappie (Sony Music Japan) 3. Roger Nichols & The Small Circle Of Friends Don't Take Your Time Roger Nichols & The Small Circle Of Friends (A&M) 4.Belle & Sebastion/I Love My Car Waking Up To Us (Matador) 5.Cornelius/Another View Point Point (Trattoria-Japan) 6.The Merchants Of Dream/Father's Overture & Come Back Into Your Childhood With Me Strange Night Voyage (A&M) 7.They Might Be Giants/Man, It's So Loud In Here Mink Car (Restless) 8.Seksu Roba/Intersexual Overdrive) Les Chansons Des Perverts (various artists) (Crippled Dick Hot Wax-Germany) 9.Ronnie Spector/Try Some, Buy Some 7" single (Apple) 10.Ronnie Aldrich & His 2 Pianos/My Sweet Lord 11.Claudine Longet/Something Run Wild, Run Free (A&M) 12.Ella Fitzgerald/Savoy Truffle Ella (Reprise) 13.The Raymakers/Would You Like To Play 7" single (Transistor) Live in studio performance by Frank Lenz & his band! 14.Frank Lenz/The Hot Stuff The Hot Stuff (Northern) 15.Leslie Gore/You Don't Own Me (in Italian) It's My Party (Bear Family) 16.Akira Ishikawa/It Happened Saturday Night Good Night Tokyo (Readymade-Japan) 17.Yuji Oniki/Beekeeper TVI (Future Farmer) Catch Yuji live at Spaceland this Saturday, 12/15. 18.John Sebastion/I Don't Want Nobody Else Faithful Virtue: The Complete Reprise Recordings (Rhino Handmade) 19.Money Mark/Glitch In Da System Change Is Coming (Emperor Norton) 20.Biz Markie/Young Girl Blues All Samples Cleared (Cold Chillin') 21.Syd Dale/Number One Spy Cinemaphonic: Soul Punch (Motel) 22.The Zodiac/Sagittarius Cosmic Sounds (Elektra) 23.Cymbals/Swing, Swing, Swing! Higher Than The Sun EP (JVC Victor-Japan) 24.The Honeys/(Let's Take A) Holiday The Honeys Collection (Collectors Choice) 25.Linus Of Hollywood/A Whole New Country Let Yourself Be Happy (Emperor Norton) 26.George Gets His Freak On (While label 12"-UK) 27.Bob Crewe & Glitterhouse/An Angel Is Love Barbarella Soundtrack (Dynovoice) 28.Le Hammond Inferno/F.S.B. My First Political Dance Album (Bungalow-Germany) 29.Margo Guryan/I Don't Intend To Spend Christmas Without You 25 Demos (Franklin Castle) 30.Pulp/Bad Cover Version We Love Life (Island-UK) 31.Francoise Hardy/Suzanne Comment Te Dire Adieu (Virgin-France) 32.Felix Da Housecat/Walk With Me Kittenz And Thee Glitz (Emperor Norton) 33.Lori & The Chameleons/Touch 7" (Sire-UK) 34.Jimi Tenor/Paradise Can Wait Utopian Dream (Sahku-Finland) 35.The Red Birds/Nissan Lovely Cherry Soft Rock Drivin'-Glorious Morning (Alpha) 36.The Sunshine Fix/Digging To China Age Of The Sun (Emperor Norton) 37.Jack Jones/Yesterday When I Was Young Sing Me A Love Song Charlie (RCA) 39.Michel Polnareff/Tout, Tout Pour Ma Cherie Les Premiere Annes (Universal-France) 40.Dahlia/Good Flight! Quatrienne (Happiness-Japan) 41.Armando Trovajoli/Casanova '70 City Boys-Not Found (Trattoria-Japan) 42.Al Green/I Want To Hold Your Hand Love Ritual (MCA) 43.The Free Design/Love Does Not Dies There Is A Song (Teichiku-Japan) 44.Gal Costa/Namorinho De Portao Gal Costa (Mercury-Brazil) 45. Paul Williams/Mornin' I'll Be Movin' On Someday Man (Reprise) -------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]------------------- End