Spectropop - Digest Number 320

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• Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 09:48:33

                  

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There are 7 messages in this issue of Spectropop.

Topics in this Digest Number 320:

      1. JACKIE DeSHANNON, CAROLYN WILLIS, ALDER RAY, PATRICE HOLLOWAY: 
         WEST COAST GIRLS INFO FRENZY
           From: Mick Patrick 
      2. Bonner & Gordon. Not all Sunshine & Lollipops.
           From: "Martin Roberts" 
      3. Gary Bonner
           From: "Peter Richmond" 
      4. Re: Garry Bonner/Alan Gordon
           From: Andrew Hickey 
      5. Guts and Gore
           From: "Spector Collector" 
      6. Carol Kaye at Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
           From: "Freeman Carmack" 
      7. Re: Carol Kaye at Rock and Roll Hall of Fame
           From: Andrew Hickey 


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Message: 1
   Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 20:35:22 +0000 (GMT)
   From: Mick Patrick 
Subject: JACKIE DeSHANNON, CAROLYN WILLIS, ALDER RAY, PATRICE HOLLOWAY: WEST COAST GIRLS INFO FRENZY

Greetings,

Country Paul has me sussed. I don't know much, I just know
where to look. Well, I have somewhere new to look this
week and it's called L.A. R & B VOCAL GROUPS 1945-1965.
The authors are Steve Propes and Galen Gart and the
publisher is Big Nickel Publications. They have a website
which I have yet to visit, so engrossed have I been in
this fantastic book: www.lavocalgroups.com

Anyone seriously interested in black vocal groups needs
this book. For example, did you know that THE VICTORIANS'
lead-singer Gloria Jean Hargis also recorded under the
name GLORIA MELBOURNE (A & M) and VIK E. LEE (Liberty)?
Well, you do now.

Did you know that "Don't Ever Leave Me" by Don & Dewey,
released on Sonny Bono's Rush label in 1961, features
backing vocals by not only THE BLOSSOMS but also JACKIE
DeSHANNON? Well, you do now. (I put this snippet in for
the benefit of my pal Peter Lerner and the gang at Jackie
magazine).

Don't even get me started on CAROLYN WILLIS or OMA HEARD
or I'll be here all night. You would not believe how many
recording groups these ladies were in. Oma was the girl
Motown fired for being fat! The bastards. Carolyn's
brother was a member of the Alleycats and co-wrote
"Puddin'n'Tain". Want more? Get this book.

Wanna know the line-up of THE CHIFFONS on Big Deal? This
is the book for you. No, they are NOT the "He's So Fine"
girls. Yes, they ARE the very same group who waxed as THE
UNFORGETTABLES on Colpix. As you may have twigged, I love
this book. I bought my copy through A & R Booksearch. My
only complaint is that it does not have an index. I'm
considering creating my own.

Right, let's see if I've got this correct . . . one of THE
PEARLETTES was subsequently a member two different
recording groups with BRENDA and PATRICE HOLLOWAY and was
later in not only THE DELICATES with ALDER RAY but also
THE IRRESISTABLES.

MICK PATRICK


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Message: 2
   Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 21:54:00 -0000
   From: "Martin Roberts" 
Subject: Bonner & Gordon. Not all Sunshine & Lollipops.

Looking at Jamie's list of favourite Bonner & Gordon tunes
it shouldn't come as a surprise that almost half the songs
feature Jack Nitzsche involvement. He was a BIG fan
particularly of Garry who he described in his
interview/discograpy with Ken Barnes in Who Put The Bomp
as "The best. The best white soul singer ever". 

Would I go that far, no not really! I was excited when I
got hold of 'Juliet Jones' Nice pic sleeve, good looking
demo label, a good strong voice (similar to PJ Proby-who
Nitzsche also rated) but the record lacks a tune! Rather
lovely 'simple' version of 'Me About You' on the B-side
though.

A lot of Bonnor/Gordon's songs suffer from too much Lesley
Gore "Sunshine"... (Again Nitzsche involvement!) 

But the record that really shows the undoubted talent that
Bonnor/Gordon (& NItzsche!) possessed is Bobby Darin's
'She Knows' recorded a few months earlier than 'Juliet..'
it's a brooding, slightly surreal masterpiece. Not to
dissimilar to Darin & Nitzsche's wonderful "Not For Me" 
 
Martin 


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Message: 3
   Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 18:51:42 -0000
   From: "Peter Richmond" 
Subject: Gary Bonner

Gary Bonner recorded for MGM Records during 1972/3,
"Celebrity Ball" / "Everlasting Love" originally
scheduled to be released on MGM 14438 but was switched to
Verve 10687.

He also recorded all the following unissued tracks for
MGM Records during 1972/3;

Let's Say Goodbye
Pearly Gates
Don't Cry My Lady
Love Is Waiting For You
Back Street Romance
Please Make Up Your Mind
Can't Get You Out Of My Head
Tear Up Your Old Love Letters
Happy Eyes
Baby Baby Baby
Passing Through The Shadows
She Touched Me
Love Is Waiting
Celebrate
Can't Get You Off My Mind
Don't Let The Blues Get You Down
Misty Sun
Love Is Waiting


Peter.


Righteous Brothers Discography




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Message: 4
   Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 12:11:41 -0800 (PST)
   From: Andrew Hickey 
Subject: Re: Garry Bonner/Alan Gordon

> Alan Gordon and Gary Bonner were in a New York-based
> group called the Magicians that was active in 65 and
> 66.
> You can check out the Magicians tracks on a Sundazed
> CD at this web page:
> http://www.sundazed.com/artists/magicians.html

> There are three song clips there, and judging from
> the clips and the notes on the CD I guess their
> recording are in a sort of jugband Motown groove (a 
> la Spoonful) and jangle pop sort of stuff. One of 
> the clips, however, showed the group's talent at 
> harmony vocals which to my ears is a hint of what 
> was to come. 

Thanks for the link - I didn't know there was a full CD
available by the Magicians. an Invitation To Cry is one
of my very favourite singles on the Nuggets box, and is
*very* close to Bonner/Gordon's work with the Turtles...

=====
Cat Satisfaction Survey, number 1 in Pop on Ampcast.com . 
Buy it now from http://www.stealthmunchkin.com

"Better than Looking Back With Love" - 
Dave Manning, Ridgefield Press


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Message: 5
   Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 17:44:48 +0000
   From: "Spector Collector" 
Subject: Guts and Gore

At her annual Christmas show this weekend in New York,
Ronnie Spector will be performing live, for the first
time as far as I know, "Try Some, Buy Some" in tribute to
George Harrison. A pretty gutsy move!

Did any of y'all see the A & E documentary on Lesley Gore
a couple of weeks ago? In the segment where they talk
about Lesley, Vikki, and Darlene all recording "It's My
Party" at the same time, and specifically about Phil's
production, they play some instrumental music in the
background that sounds like a Wall of Sound backing track,
with the context implying that it's Phil's track for
"It's My Party." Anybody know anything more about this
"incidental" music? They kept coming back to it
throughout the rest of the show.

David A. Young


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Message: 6
   Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2001 18:10:52 -0000
   From: "Freeman Carmack" 
Subject: Carol Kaye at Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

I know Carol doesn't put much stock in the awards, but I
think it's a shame that a person who has contributed so
much to the music we love isn't recognized by this
organization.

I fully agree with Chet Atkins inclusion, but not Carol?
I wrote to RRHF last year, and was assured that she was
"on the list".

We're there with you,Carol!!!!!

Happy Holidays and love to all,

Freeman Carmack


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Message: 7
   Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2001 03:09:10 -0800 (PST)
   From: Andrew Hickey 
Subject: Re: Carol Kaye at Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

> I know Carol doesn't put much stock in the awards,
> but I think it's a shame that a person who has 
> contributed so much to the music we love isn't 
> recognized by this organization.

Absolutely. There was some sort of online petition to
that effect a couple of years ago I remember signing,
and I think a *lot* of other people did too...

> I fully agree with Chet Atkins inclusion, but not
> Carol?

I think it's a disgrace that they only have one
'sideman' per year. I also think that Atkins should
have been inducted years ago as a performer in his own
right. You'd think they'd induct the many, many great
session players who actually made half of the best
records of the 60s...




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