________________________________________________________________________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ ______________ S P E C T R O P O P ______________ ______________ ______________ ________________________________________________________________________ Radio Caroline - The all day Music Station ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 10 messages in this issue of Spectropop. Topics in this Digest Number 351: 1. Wildweeds/Vibrations/basslines From: Richard Williams 2. Kenny Young/San Francisco Earthquake From: "Martin Roberts" 3. Re: Important Curt Boettcher news From: Eric Van Rysdam 4. Gear Fab Records From: "John Hesterman" 5. Re: Magic Lamp From: Carol Kaye 6. And Then He Sued Me? From: Steve McClure 7. Re: Oldham & Del Shannon From: Scott Swanson 8. Re: CD Towers From: "Javed Jafri" 9. Re: brian wilson London From: Andrew Hickey 10. Brian in London From: "Kingsley Abbott" ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 10:37:21 +0000 From: Richard Williams Subject: Wildweeds/Vibrations/basslines 1. So pleased to read warm words about the Wildweeds. I always imagined I was the only person who'd treasured "It Was Fun While It Lasted" all these years. If you were living in the UK and buying everything on the black and gold Chess label at the time, it was a lovely surprise to discover this among the output from Fontella Bass, Ramsey Lewis, the Dells, the Radiants, Billy Stewart and so on. 2. The Vibrations' record was actually called "My Girl Sloopy": the title was changed for the McCoys' version. And thinking of the Vibrations reminds me that somebody should do a compilation of records using fake audience/party noises as an effect, e.g. the Miracles' "I Gotta Dance (To Keep From Cryin')", Shirley Ellis's "The Nitty Gritty" and the CODs' "Michael". Any more? 3. Greatest bass lines: the immortal Jamerson on the Supremes' "Love Is Here And Now You're Gone" takes some beating (and he reprised the lick almost 10 years later on Robert Palmer's "Which Of Us Is The Fool?", a wonderful single from the Pressure Drop album). And, since nobody asked, the best-ever bass playing on a ballad is by Marcus Miller on "The Second Time Around" by Luther Vandross, although possibly outside Spectropop's scope (if so, apologies). Richard Williams --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 21:54:41 -0000 From: "Martin Roberts" Subject: Kenny Young/San Francisco Earthquake Only track I have by Kenny in this guise is on UK Mercury (assume US Smash) "Fairy Tales Can Come True (Have You Heard About Lucy)"/"Su Su". Not really my cup of tea, although think they might appeal to quite a few listees!! '"Su Su" quite fun, a (slight) rewrite of song he wrote and arranged for Reparta/Delrons "Toom Toom (Is A Little Boy)". Love the use of Brackets!! I seem to remember Mr Young came to live and work in England and Wales! in the 70's early 80's so would assume Rockfied record him. Personally I'll stick to his writing, arranging and producing for so many Girl Group classics!! Martin --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 01:03:01 EST From: Eric Van Rysdam Subject: Re: Important Curt Boettcher news > ...the long-lost Boettcher/ Olsen produced Together > Records lp MOSES LAKE is slated for release in > February of '02! For those who don't know, Moses > Lake was a band formerly known as the Bards who had > some success in their original incarnation as a sort > of Paul Revere-ish Northwest R&B/ pop band. By the > time they hooked up with Curt and Keith, their sound > was more geared towards psychedelic rock, or at least > that's how they come across on their 1969 Together > Records single "Oobleck"/ "Moses". The Moses Lake > album is referred to as a masterpiece by those lucky > enough to have heard it. If anybody has any > verification that this release is legit, could they > please mention something on this board? The Gear Fab > page had no links to any order form, and it has a > sort of low budget look that makes me uncertain if > this is an actual record label or somebody trying to > pass themselves off as one. There are many other > releases slated, according to the page, including the > long lost THE CHILDREN, which is actually Eternity's > Children's third lp. I would ask any Curt Boettcher > fans to check this URL out for themselves, and I'd be > interested in hearing your assessments. I'm not sure about the legality of this release, but it will probably look and sound sharp. Gear Fab seems to put out interesting and obscure stuff. As far as getting it when it comes out, try Forced Exposure mailorder out of Boston. They listed it as forthcoming in February. I was curious when I saw it listed and love that my questions about it were already answered by Jason above!!! Does anyone know of a good source for those Japanese Dreamville releases (Lee Mallory, Second Millenium...)? Thanks, Eric Van Rysdam --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 4 Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:41:16 -0800 From: "John Hesterman" Subject: Gear Fab Records Greetings & Happy New Year Everyone! From Spectropop - Digest Number 350 Jason Penick wrote: "The Gear Fab page had no links to any order form, and it has a sort of low budget look that makes me uncertain if this is an actual record label or somebody trying to pass themselves off as one." My band, The Grapes of Wrath, is signed with Gear Fab records (they released our retrospective back in 1998) and they are INDEED a legitimate reissue label. I have been very impressed with the way they conduct business, as they were completely above board with us and went to great trouble to make sure all the i's were dotted and t's crossed. Roger Maglio, the owner, is indeed a quality guy. Use the e-mail link on his site to inquire of him directly any questions you may have. http://www.swiftsite.com/gearfab/index2a.htm John Hesterman San Diego, CA www.5grapes.com www.theoffbeats.com www.thecabininthewoods.com www.eastcountychamber.org --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 5 Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 16:27:28 +0900 From: Carol Kaye Subject: Re: Magic Lamp Harvey Williams wrote: > "Joe Osborn...and a partner formed Magic Lamp > Records in 1966, with Joe acting as A&R man & engineer & > furnishing his garage studio for the recording..." > > Very well connected, then! Joe was a wrecking crew > regular...so, over to you Carol! Joe was one of many elec. bassists of the 1960s. He came on the scene a little later in the 60s. Others include (in order of appearance on the recording scene, or approx.): Ray Pohlman, Rene Hall (who is playing bass on my CK: Guitars 1965 lp), Arthur Wright, Bob West, Buddy Clark, Lyle Ritz, Larry Knechtel, Wilton Felder, and even later, Chuck Berghofer, Max Bennett and Jim Hughart. I know nothing about Joe's garage recording co. Others who did a little bit of work on elec. bass include Don Bagley, Red Calendar, Ray Leatherwood, Morty Corb, Bob Stone, Arni Egilsson, Abe Luboff, Ed Gilbert, Sid Weiss, and Pat Senatore...most of whom I taught. Carol Kaye http://www.carolkaye.com/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 6 Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 20:04:40 +0900 From: Steve McClure Subject: And Then He Sued Me? I just heard Miss Cathy Brasher performing He Told Me He Loved Me on Spectropop's GirlPop Radio. Was there ever any litigation concerning this song's uncanny similarity to Then He Kissed Me? --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 7 Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:40:15 -0800 From: Scott Swanson Subject: Re: Oldham & Del Shannon Declan writes: >Also, recent discussion of Andrew Loog Oldham >productions has got me wondering (Kieron Tyler?) to when >and if Del Shannon's 'Home and Away' will get a proper >CD release as afforded to Oldam's Billy Nichols LP a few >years back. The songs recorded for Shannon's aborted "Home And Away" album have been available for several years on the two-fer CD "Live In England/And The Music Plays On". As far as I know, this CD is still in print....but if you can't find a copy, let me know. It contains 11 songs produced by Andrew Oldham in 1967, plus 14 live tracks and a couple misc. recordings which weren't produced by Oldham. Hope this helps, Scott --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 8 Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 22:47:28 -0500 From: "Javed Jafri" Subject: Re: CD Towers Ok here goes. Here is a comp I made for my car player : Superman--The Clique It Could Be We're In Love--The Cryan Shames Questions and Answers--Apples In Stereo Sausilito-Ohio Express Ride Your Pony--Fleshtones Things We Should Have Said--The Grassroots Is It Like Today--World Party Farmer's Daughter--Yo La Tengo I Know There's An Answer--Sonic Youth Don't be Gone Long--Ragamuffins Baby Baby It's You--Yellow Balloon Al Strung Out-Nino Temp and April Stevens Some Velvet Morning--Nancy Sinatra and Lee Hazelwood No Other--Gene Clark The Bird That You Can't See--Apples In Stereo Make A Circuit With Me --Polecats See My Baby Jive--Roy Wood & Wizzard This Could Be The Night--Modern Folk Quarter Laugh At Me--Sonny Bono Ridin In My Car--NRBQ I Can't Let Go--The Hollies Looking At A Baby--The Collectors Jumbo--The Bee Gees The Fun We Had--The Ragamuffins Dear Brian--Chris Rainbow Javed --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 9 Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:24:19 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Hickey Subject: Re: brian wilson London > Where is Brian Wilson appearing and what dates? Royal Festival Hall, Sun 27-Wed 30 of this month. Tickets sold out ages ago, but I have a spare for the Tuesday and there may be others on this list with spares for the other days if you want to go. > I'm going on the Wednesday night - excited beyond > words and have turned down offers of hearing the 'Live > at Roxy' CD as I want to experience BW and his band > fresh and for the very first time....I'm sure I'll be > in awe and disbelief that I'm so close to and have > experienced total genius. Heh... if the setlists and boots from the last tour he did are anything to go by, the gigs should be many, *many* times better than the Roxy CD. And that's saying something... --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Message: 10 Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2002 11:54:45 -0000 From: "Kingsley Abbott" Subject: Brian in London I'm going all four nights - Well, I had to...It may be our last chance... Various people I know are using the Waterloo bar on level 4 as a meeting spot pre concerts...(from as early as 5pm) Rashkovsky queries: > Is there a demonstrable relationship between interest > in 60's music and high IQ and/or language skills? Duh...Dunno Mike...best ask Jughead... Kingsley Abbott (Ex Primary Headteacher) --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- End