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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Musica adds
From: Clark Besch
2. Re: Razor's Edge / Orpheus
From: Clark Besch
3. Re: Streisand sings Nyro
From: Richard Havers
4. Re: Instrumentals with lyrics
From: Eddy
5. Update from the Eddie Rambeau Website/Fan Club
From: Rosemarie
6. Re: Let's Call It A Day Girl - In Crowd's "Questions & Answers"
From: Billy G. Spradlin
7. Re: Let's Call It A Day Girl
From: Ken Bell
8. Hatchback - The Tony Hatch Story
From: S'pop Team
9. Question for THAT Alan Gordon
From: Stuffed Animal
10. Re: Instrumentals with lyrics / Am I The Same Girl
From: Andrew Jones
11. Re: instrumental vocals / the real J.C.
From: Phil Milstein
12. Re: Song catalogue
From: That Alan Gordon ,alanette@webtv.net>
13. Weird Watusi
From: Herb
14. Re: Whatever Happened to Happy?
From: That Alan Gordon
15. Re: Jake etc
From: That Alan Gordon
16. Re: The Parrots
From: That Alan Gordon
17. Re: Higher Elevation
From: JJ
18. Orpheus single "Lesley's World"
From: Tom
19. Re: Bobby Vee
From: That Alan Gordon
20. (alias) Billy Hills etc
From: That Alan Gordon
21. Re: Artie Wayne
From: That Alan Gordon
22. Re: Food fight!!!
From: That Alan Gordon
23. Re: Jack Nitzsche at Spectropop Update
From: Martin Roberts
24. Eternity's Children's lyrics
From: John Butler
25. Re: Canadian Rogues
From: Tom Taber
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 06:45:05 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Musica adds
Hi, I truly hope I am not oversteeping my bounds here. I just wanted
to mention that I added 4 songs to Musica. First, a Tim Gilbert song
that fellow Colorado group, the Higher Elevation relaesed on Liberty
in 1968. I really love this record and think it could have been a
nice followup to Strawberry Alarm Clock's "Sit With the Guru", had
they recorded it and released it at same time. Even has a psuedo-
psyche guitar break that is reminiscent of the keyboard break
in "Tomorrow".
Also, I added Tim Gilbert's B side to his Chistmas '67 "If We Stick
Together" 45, "Early October" which is great timing, I'd say!!
Also, after listening to the "Phil's Spectre: A Wall of Soundalikes"
Cd ("Boy's Town" and "My Baby Looks" are 2 more new faves from it),
I ran across Terry Day's "Be a Soldier" 45 and thought, this would be
a good one for such a Cd! OOps! I looked close and it IS produced by
Phil Spector!! Non-Cd or Lp to my knowledge still, correct? Anyway,
I'm guessing this track has been talked about at length before I
entered the scene, but just in case.....
Lastly, I added a fave early Hudson Brothers when they were "Hudson"
on Playboy records in '72 before the TV show and "So You are a Star"
was a hit. I believe I have a KOIL Omaha chart with it at #5! KOIL
was doing well in 72, as they also charted the fantastic first
Raspberries 45, "Don't Want to Say Goodbye" in the top 10 also, I
believe!
Anyway, so as to not hog Musica, I'll take one or two of these off
soon. Sorry, Clark
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 06:54:26 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Re: Razor's Edge / Orpheus
The Razor's Edge began as the American Beetles, I believe. They had
2, maybe 3 45s on Pow records in 1966. "Let's Call it a Day Girl"
got a lot of airplay and they performed it on "Where the Action Is"
too. Great song I'd place in the mold of the Happenings sound of
66. If you wish, I can play the sides to Musica in future.
Orpheus! Altho I love almost all the Cds Cary Mansfield at Varese
has put out, the Orpheus one not having "Leslie's World" on it was a
real shame! Great song! I still have it on tape from WBZ Boston in
68. As the B side to "Can't Find the Time", it is a keeper in my
fave 45s boxes! It is just recently released on a various artists
Cd, but I can't remember what it was. Maybe on Cherry Red of UK?
Mick Patrick, any help here?
Take care, Clark
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 09:22:31 +0100
From: Richard Havers
Subject: Re: Streisand sings Nyro
Me:
> Later as my musical taste grew and grew and grew, I discovered
that Barbra Streisand was not just someone my parents listened to.
Jimmy Botticelli:
> Anyone love her take on Laura Nyro's "Flim Flam Man" and "Stoney
> End" as much as I do?
'Stoney End' is great, I prefer it to Laura Nyro's version .........
and I LOVE hers!
Richard
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:14:56 +0200
From: Eddy
Subject: Re: Instrumentals with lyrics
Nick Archer:
> Which came first, Barbara Acklin's vocal "Am I the Same Girl", or the
> instrumental "Soulful Strut"? Also, wasn't "Town Without Pity" a redo
> of the movie theme with lyrics added?
Soulful strut by Young-Holy Unlimited is the original. As a matter of
fact, I believe the Barbara Acklin version uses that very same track
with just the piano replaced by her voice.
Town without pity is indeed the one in the movie of the same name.
However, if memory serves, I believe it was the Gene Pitney (vocal)
version that was already used for that, not an instrumental.
Eddy
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 02:27:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rosemarie
Subject: Update from the Eddie Rambeau Website/Fan Club
Ed is still recording and is bringing out a new CD - information about
this will be on the website later this week... if there is anyone else
interested in Ed or his music please feel free to join the FanClub
Site on Yahoo. We have music files that change frequently and lots of
Photographs: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rambeau_fan_club
Lots of Love and Best Wishes,
Rosemarie
http://www.edrambeau.com
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:03:47 -0000
From: Billy G. Spradlin
Subject: Re: Let's Call It A Day Girl - In Crowd's "Questions & Answers"
I just posted an Mp3 of "Lets Call it A Day" - great record. I dont
think its ever been released on CD. The record sounds great, I think
had it been issued on a bigger label than the tiny POW! label it
would have broken nationwide.
I'm also curious about about another great Harmony Pop record from
1966. The In Crowd's "Questions and Answers" on Viva 604. I have the
writer/producer info but was this group a studio confection or
a "real" group???
I know just by listening its the not the same group that backed up
Jon & Robin (Do It Again A Little Bit Slower) and scored a big
regional hit (#1 on KEEL in Shreveport) with "Hanging From Your
Loving Tree" - all on Abnak. (another great 45)
I just picked up a promo copy of the Trav'lers - "The Heart of Juliet
Jones". Great record! I will post it to Musica when space frees up.
Billy
http://listen.to/jangleradio
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 06:27:02 -0500
From: Ken Bell
Subject: Re: Let's Call It A Day Girl
Jeff Lemlich:
> Bobby Vee wound up covering "Let's Call It A Day Girl" in 1969 and
> briefly scraping the Billboard Hot 100 with the tune.
Thanks Jeff, I knew that I remembered "Let's Call It A Girl Day", but I
don't think I would have remembered who sang it. I was always kind of a
Bobby Vee fan so I am sure as a teenager I bought the 45 or LP. Bobby
Vee seemed to almost always chart in the top 40 of "yours truly WHB in
Kansas City".
Orion
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:09:17 +0100
From: S'pop Team
Subject: Hatchback - The Tony Hatch Story
New At S'pop: Hatchback - The Tony Hatch Story by Mick Patrick
'Downtown', 'Call Me', 'Joanna', 'Sugar And Spice', 'I Know A
Place', 'Where Are You Now (My Love)', 'You're The One', 'Forget
Him', 'Don't Sleep In The Subway' . . . There is no prize for
knowing that what links these great titles is that each and
every one was written by Tony Hatch, the subject of the latest
instalment at the New At S'pop section, and a likely contender
for Britain's top pop composer of the 1960s. Click here to read
it: http://www.spectropop.com/TonyHatch/index.htm
Enjoy!
The S'pop Team
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:38:51 +0000
From: Stuffed Animal
Subject: Question for THAT Alan Gordon
Are you the same Alan Gordon who wrote the wonderful Brazilian-
flavored song "What Goes On?" for The Archies?
Don "Stuffed Animal" Charles
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:04:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Jones
Subject: Re: Instrumentals with lyrics / Am I The Same Girl
Nick Archer: I'd have to dig for it, but I have an old Goldmine
issue with a brief write-up on "Soulful Strut," and I'm sure it
said that the vocal version "Am I The Same Girl" came first.
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:26:17 +0000
From: Phil Milstein
Subject: Re: instrumental vocals / the real J.C.
Bob Rashkow wrote:
> I've got so much more but I'll stick to these last three: instrumentals
> turned vocals: did Shelby Flint sing Cast Your Fate......before Vince
> Guaraldi recorded it or Vince Versa? ......
I believe the We Five's was the first vocal version of that song. Going
back a bit further, there is an episode of I Love Lucy in which Ricky
sings lyrics to the famous Lucy theme. I only remember the first
couplet: "I love Lucy and she loves me / We're as happy as two can be
..." Inspired, obviously. The Charleston, believe it or not, originated
with lyrics.
Country Paul wrote:
> http://earcandy_mag.tripod.com And compliments on Gary Pig Gold's
> article "Ten Reasons to Love Johnny Cash." If you do, it's required
> reading IMO.
I'd like to second that. Most of the J.C. post-mortems I've seen have
raked over the same coals as one another, but Gary's piece is
thoughtful, insightful, well-researched and, above all, novel.
--Phil M.
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:05:37 -0700 (MST)
From: That Alan Gordon ,alanette@webtv.net>
Subject: Re: Song catalogue
Clark asked if I could list my songs with artists? I would have to
consult Karl Baker, he knows more than I do!!! To be perfectly candid
with you, I am learning here at S`POP of covers I never knew about
myself. So thank you all for telling me.
Best That alan
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:05:55 -0000
From: Herb
Subject: Weird Watusi
Hi,
Hallowe'en is approaching.... I have looked and enquired about the
John Zacherlie LP "The Monster Mash" that came out in 1962. One of
the tracks was "Weird Watusi" - a reworking of "The Wah-Watusi" by
The Orlons. My enquiry: Has anyone heard of/seen this album in CD
form? I do have the vinyl copy but no means to play it.
Herb (Toronto)
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:09:14 -0700 (MST)
From: That Alan Gordon
Subject: Re: Whatever Happened to Happy?
Bill, regarding "Whatever Happened To Happy". It was also done by
Bobby Darin on the Inside Out album, and I think by Gary Lewis?
That alan
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:14:09 -0700 (MST)
From: That Alan Gordon
Subject: Re: Jake etc
Country Paul asked if there was a stereo mix of Garry Bonner's
"Me About You". I have no idea. I agree with you, Jake and the
Family Jewel's version of "Maybe" is a favorite of mine.
That alan
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:21:44 -0700 (MST)
From: That Alan Gordon
Subject: Re: The Parrots
Jeff wanted to know who the Parrots were? Garry and myself were
the Parrots. We were also Elmo and Almo ("When the Good Sunshines"),
and along with Peter Sando we were the Barracudas ("The Dance At St.
Francis").
Best, that alan
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:23:45 -0000
From: JJ
Subject: Re: Higher Elevation
> First, a Tim Gilbert song that fellow Colorado group, the Higher
> Elevation released on Liberty in 1968. I really love this record
> and think it could have been a nice followup to Strawberry Alarm
> Clock's "Sit With the Guru", had they recorded it and released it
> at same time. Even has a psuedo-psyche guitar break that is
> reminiscent of the keyboard break in "Tomorrow".
**Higher E´s "Summer Skies" is included on FY vol 2...GREAT TRACK!
JJ
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:27:00 -0000
From: Tom
Subject: Orpheus single "Lesley's World"
Thanks to the tips I received, I found a domestic source for the most
recent import from Akarma. It contains all four albums and two bonus
tracks...and yes, it even has "Lesley's World".
http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?style=MUSIC&pid=2307423&cart=160837533
I'm still glad I also ordered the Varese compilation since it was
remastered in '01 and supposedly sounds much better than the ACE or
Akarma versions.
Also, has anyone on the list heard the Hootie & The Blowfish version
of "Can't Find The Time" on the "Me, Myself & Irene" soundtrack? This
is the Jim Carrey / Renee Zellweger movie directed by the Farrelly
Brothers.
Tom
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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:30:26 -0700 (MST)
From: That Alan Gordon
Subject: Re: Bobby Vee
Bob, I would love to hear Bobby Vee`s cover of "Double Good Feeling" but
I am computer challenged [just ask Phil Chapman!]. I can't play mp3s. I'm
still fumbling around with my web.tv. I will tell you this, "Take Good
Care Of My Baby", "Run To Him", "Please Don't Ask About Barbara" and "The
Night Has A Thousand Eyes" are great songs and Bobby is a great artist.
Oh yes, can't forget "Devil Or Angel". What is Bobby up to these days?
Best, that alan
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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:42:29 -0700 (MST)
From: That Alan Gordon
Subject: (alias) Billy Hills etc
Steven, you made my day. Only an S`popper could come up with the
Extragordonary single. I could've sworn I had the only copy!!! It is my
hope that one day Sir Paul would be able to hear my tribute song to the
Beatles. There is a rare Extragordonay album out there on Tiger Lily
Records. I am always on the hunt for an original unopened copy. I forgot
to mention in a previous reply, I also put out a single on my own label, 04 Star Radio Records, called "Maybe I`m Old Fashioned" by (alias) Billy
Hills, which of course was me!
Best, that alan
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Message: 21
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:47:29 -0700 (MST)
From: That Alan Gordon
Subject: Re: Artie Wayne
Rashkovsky, I wish Artie Wayne was running around with my tunes as
well!!
That alan
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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 08:56:50 -0700 (MST)
From: That Alan Gordon
Subject: Re: Food fight!!!
Albabe, I would never go to a fight without my wife, it wouldn't be the
same. Anyway, did you ever see the movie with Ray Milland and Rosie Greer.
They were Joined at the neck. We can do the same neck thing, take on
the 4 Arties and the 3 Marks. But in the end my wife would WIN!!!
That alan
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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:15:41 +0100
From: Martin Roberts
Subject: Re: Jack Nitzsche at Spectropop Update
I would hate to influence your voting choice regarding The
Battle of the Nitzsches, but the Jack Nitzsche at Spectropop
Northern Soul expert, Simon White, informs me that Bobby Day's
45 "Pretty Little Girl Next Door" is selling for £350.00.
I'd guess you'd be lucky to find this one on your travels!
The mention of Bobby Day brings up a great addition to the
instrumentals-with-lyrics thread. On Jack's "The Lonely Surfer"
album is a tune called "Old Town", written by Marty Cooper and
Jack. A super Latin flavoured track. When I first heard it I
thought if it had vocals it would be ideal for Mink DeVille.
Apparently this tune did have vocals written for it and was
recorded by Bobby Day, again with Marty and Jack producing and
arranging, oh me oh my!
While on the subject of un-released Nitzsches, there are a fair
few. And now, with additions from Al Hazan and Alan Gordon, seems
a good time to collate the ones known so far. Drop me a line
and I'll set to work in drawing up a list, all additions will be
acknowledged on the site,
Martin
http://www.spectropop.com/JackNitzsche/index.htm
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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:13:42 +0100 (BST)
From: John Butler
Subject: Eternity's Children's lyrics
Hello everybody,
Here's an odd request. On the Eternity's Children song Sunshine and
Flowers (Track 16 on Rev Ola re-issue) can someone please complete
the lyric-
"Let me _________ about the flowers"
Its beginning to bug me.
Thank you,
John
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Message: 25
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:27:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tom Taber
Subject: Re: Canadian Rogues
TD Bell wrote:
> I can't remember the record label, but I remember listening to a
> 45 by "The Rogues"--the A-side was an uptempo arrangement of Buddy
> Holly's "Everyday" and the B-side was a slick instrumental called
> "Roger's Reef" (organ and piano).
These "Rogues" were Bruce Johnston and Terry Melcher on Columbia. My
cracked and worn copy was found 30+ years ago while searching in a
junk store for Jan and Dean 45s, in a large box with "Jenny Lee"
written on the outside...
Buffalo, NY had another "Rogues," who needed a b-side so did a quick
version of "Train Kept a Rollin'"; it makes the Yardbirds version
sound like easy listening! They later had at least one record on the
"Thunderbird" label out of Buffalo, and many copies listed their name
as "The Rouges." Has anyone else found a copy of "It Was I" by "Skip
and Slip"?
And, I will be working on words for the rest of "Walk, Don't Run" -
those interested, stay tuned - you others may want to search for a
computer virus to knock yours out for a week or two!
Tom Taber (who, when asked what connection he had to the music
business, would answer "I used to be lead singer with the Ventures!"
He stopped saying it when so few "got" it.)
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