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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: "What Goes On?"
From: That Alan Gordon
2. "Cast Your Fate" with lyrics, "Lesley's World"
From: Art Longmire
3. Re: Need Spectropoppers help!!!
From: Mikey
4. Re: Food fight!!!!!
From: Artie Wayne
5. The Rogues from Buffalo
From: Art Longmire
6. Re: Lulu
From: bnbnk
7. Re: Bobby Vee
From: Bob
8. ST. PATRICK
From: Mike Rashkow
9. Re: The Parrots
From: Ken Bell
10. Re: "What Goes On?"
From: Mike Rashkow
11. Re: Instrumental "songs"?
From: Kurt Benbenek
12. Re: The Parrots
From: Jeff Lemlich
13. Re: Food fight!!!!!
From: Mark Frumento
14. Re: The Rogues from Buffalo
From: MopTopMike
15. Re: Need Spectropoppers help!!!
From: Jeff Lemlich
16. Re: The Rogues from Buffalo
From: James Botticelli
17. Re: Canadian Rogues
From: MopTopMike
18. Re: Need Spectropoppers help!!!
From: Ken Silverwood
19. Revolution Revelation
From: Steve Harvey
20. Lesley Miller
From: Mark T
21. Re: instrumental vocals / the real J.C.
From: Ken Silverwood
22. Razor's Edge
From: Mark T
23. Eternity's Children on Gear Fab
From: Mark T
24. Re: Lulu
From: Ken Silverwood
25. In Crowd
From: Mark T
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 11:51:06 -0700 (MST)
From: That Alan Gordon
Subject: Re: "What Goes On?"
Don Charles:
> Are you the same Alan Gordon who wrote the wonderful Brazilian-
> flavored song "What Goes On?" for The Archies?
Don: BINGO, How do you guys do it!!! Yes Ritchie Adams and I wrote that
song. I never cashed the royaltie check, I framed it - 50 cents!!! That
record was recently beat by a check I got far an Alice Cooper song "Some
Folks". The amount?.....1 cent!!!!!
That alan
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 18:51:14 -0000
From: Art Longmire
Subject: "Cast Your Fate" with lyrics, "Lesley's World"
I was going through a box of 45s last night and came across an
Atlantic 45 of Mel Torme's vocal version of Vince Guaraldi's "Cast
Your Fate to the Wind" (spelled as "Winds" on my copy). That reminded
me of the superb version of the song by Shelby Flint, and another
great version by We Five.
The instrumental version by Sounds Orchestral was one of the very
first instrumentals I remember liking as a kid - in fact I've never
heard a bad version of this song!
Also glad to hear so many people like "Lesley's World" by Orpheus - I
wasn't aware of the Lesley Lorber-Alan Lorber connection on this. One
review I saw a while ago on Orpheus compared their sound to that of
Hamilton, Joe Frank and Reynolds.
Art
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 14:53:17 -0400
From: Mikey
Subject: Re: Need Spectropoppers help!!!
I have a great love song from the late 60s on tape called "Melody
For An Unknown Girl" I need to know the Artist and record label if
possible.
If all goes well, this song might be included on a new "Love" Cd
next year.
Oh yes, its NOT the Paul Revere and The Raiders version.
Help me guys!!!
Mikey
(Mikey, might it be the Unknowns, released on Parrot 307 in 1966?
Signed, Smarty Pants S'pop Moderator)
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:42:12 +0100
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: Food fight!!!!!
I guess changing my name to Mark Alan would just add to the confusion
........I guess it's back to the drawing board!!
regards, Artie Wayne
P.S. .....and speaking of Alans......Allan Rinde just put some pictures
from the Rocktober fest in Palm Springs with Lou Christie, The Tokens,
The Angels, etc. up on Toni Wine's website:
http://www.geocities.com/toniwine/index.html
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:23:11 -0000
From: Art Longmire
Subject: The Rogues from Buffalo
Tom Taber mentioned a group from Buffalo called the Rogues who
recorded a b-side of "Train Kept A-Rollin'". I just wanted to say that
the A-side "You Better Look Now" is one of my all-time favorite tunes-
a ballad with terrific Byrds-style guitar and a great, earnest-
sounding lead vocal. I have it on one of the "Teenage Shutdown" CD
compilations.
Art
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 12:11:27 -0700
From: bnbnk
Subject: Re: Lulu
Bill George:
> I really like Lulu's Atco work. "To Sir With Love", regardless how
> pretty it is, just isn't very representative of what Lulu was
> capable of. It's too bad she never really "made it" over here. Her
> Bowie covers are great too!
Especially her version of Bowie's "The Man Who Sold the World"!
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 19:56:45 -0000
From: Bob
Subject: Re: Bobby Vee
That Alan Gordon:
> I will tell you this, "Take Good Care Of My Baby", "Run To
> Him", "Please Don't Ask About Barbara" and "The Night Has
> A Thousand Eyes" are great songs and Bobby is a great artist.
> What is Bobby up to these days?
Alan,
Bobby is still touring and recording having released a new CD a
few months ago called "I Wouldn't Change a Thing" He has his own
state of the art recording studio in St. Joseph, MN near his home.
The studio is located in an old bank building with the vocal booth
in the vault! (of course). You can check out his website at
http://www.bobbyvee.com and my site on Yahoo, The Bobby Vee Collectors
Club at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thebobbyveecollectorsclub
You can email me with your address at Veefriends@yahoo.com and
I'll get you a CDR of Double Good Feeling!
Bob
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:27:49 EDT
From: Mike Rashkow
Subject: ST. PATRICK
Kudos and huzzahs to our own Mick Patrick,
"Master of The Masters" for the masterful job
he did on the liner notes for Phil's Spectre.
Is this guy good or what?
Rashkovsky
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:30:45 -0400
From: Ken Bell
Subject: Re: The Parrots
That Alan Gordon:
> Garry and myself were the Parrots. We were also Elmo and Almo
> ("When the Good Sunshines"), and along with Peter Sando we
> were the Barracudas ("The Dance At St. Francis").
Holy Cow, you were another Anders and Poncia :) only more.
I loved the music by Anders and Ponica, although I don't
remember if they wrote their own music or sang others.
Orion
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 16:25:02 EDT
From: Mike Rashkow
Subject: Re: "What Goes On?"
That Alan Gordon:
> That record was recently beat by a check I got far an Alice
> Cooper song "Some Folks". The amount?.....1 cent!!!!!
They'll take it back on the next statement marked "Paid In Error".
Di da,
Rashkovsky
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:04:02 -0700
From: Kurt Benbenek
Subject: Re: Instrumental "songs"?
Kurt Benbenek:
> Speaking of instrumentals... I'd struggled for years trying to come
> up with a list of my favorite songs...without including instrumentals.
Steve Grant:
> Only an obsessive pedant like me would cavil at this usage, but ...
> instrumentals aren't "songs." Yes, I freely use the word the same
> way you do.
Steve,
You make an interesting point. Are pop instrumentals 'songs'?
I think so, yes.
Pop instrumentals are often assigned fourth-class status
because they lack words. They may not even be considered
'songs' or finished compositions because they lack lyrics
or a human voice.
A pop instrumental may lack lyrics and a voice.
But that doesn't necessarily mean it's not a song.
Improvisation done on a guitar, piano, sax (even drum and bass,
or scratching done on a turntable) takes the place of the human
voice. Musicians 'sing' through their instruments.
Music is an expression of the basic 'song' in an individual's
heart or Soul.
Or it can be the 'song' expressed by an entire instrumental
Jazz band, Surf band, R & B group, etc
The Chantay's "Pipeline" is just as much of a song as
"You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling". Steve Cropper is 'singing
his song' while he's muscling though that concise guitar solo
on "Green Onions"
A good portion of the unreleased "Smile" is simply Brian Wilson
expressing himself 'in song' instrumentally..or in non-sensical,
non-lyrical ways.
- Kurt
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 20:33:36 -0000
From: Jeff Lemlich
Subject: Re: The Parrots
Alan Gordon wrote:
> Garry and myself were the Parrots. We were also Elmo and Almo
> ("When the Good Sunshines"), and along with Peter Sando we
> were the Barracudas ("The Dance At St. Francis").
Thanks for the info, Alan. So you and Garry covered yourselves
when you recorded "Lady Fingers" with the Barracuda! I haven't
heard the Barracuda recording of your song "Julie", but I sure
like the version by my old Ft. Lauderdale friends, Game. I like
their demo of "Goodbye Surprise", too!
Jeff Lemlich
http://www.limestonerecords.com
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:02:38 -0000
From: Mark Frumento
Subject: Re: Food fight!!!!!
Artie Wayne wrote:
> I guess changing my name to Mark Alan would just add
> to the confusion
Artie - if you do that then we can definitely take on the
Alans if you come on our side. Make your choice.
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:55:23 -0000
From: MopTopMike
Subject: Re: The Rogues from Buffalo
Art Longmire:
> Tom Taber mentioned a group from Buffalo called the Rogues
> who recorded a b-side of "Train Kept A-Rollin'". I just
> wanted to say that the A-side "You Better Look Now" is one
> of my all-time favorite tunes-
The Rogues (well, this crew from the Williamsport area of Buffalo)
also recorded two singles on the Thunderbird label after their
magnum opus on the Audition label. The best being the ace '67
Beatle-esque "secondary Man". And I agree on "You Better Look
Now" - mid-60s jangly folk rock never sounded any better!
MopTopMike
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 21:59:36 -0000
From: Jeff Lemlich
Subject: Re: Need Spectropoppers help!!!
Mikey wrote:
> I have a great love song from the late 60s on tape called "Melody
> For An Unknown Girl" I need to know the Artist and record label if
> possible.
> Oh yes, its NOT the Paul Revere and The Raiders version.
> (Mikey, might it be the Unknowns, released on Parrot 307 in 1966?
> Signed, Smarty Pants S'pop Moderator)
Smarty Pants S'pop Moderator is right. The Unknowns were a studio
side-project of Steve Alaimo, Mark Lindsay, and Keith Allison,
during down-time in the taping of the "Where The Action Is" TV
show. They did a pretty good version of the Raiders' song "Tighter"
for Marlin Records in '67.
Jeff Lemlich
http://www.limestonerecords.com
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 17:00:23 -0400
From: James Botticelli
Subject: Re: The Rogues from Buffalo
Art Longmire wrote:
> I have it on one of the "Teenage Shutdown" CD compilations.
Is that the one with the dorky acne-faced skinny loser boys
in a high school hall during class-passing gazing like sheep
at the barbie-doll blondes walking past? Funniest cover ever!
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Message: 17
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:23:20 -0000
From: MopTopMike
Subject: Re: Canadian Rogues
The Canadian Rogues might fool people who believe everything
they read on a record label, but to those folks who saw them
perform in their hometown of Lakeland, Florida, the name was
a clever deception.
As listmember Jeff L. can vouch (and go into more detail), the
Canadian Rogues released a total of four singles...their debut
was a 2-sided killer, "You Better Stop"/"Have You Found Somebody
New", on the Fuller label from Tampa in mid 1965. The second 45
was released on two labels - The Charay label out of Texas in
1966, then reissued on the Palmer label from Michigan: "Oop Poo
Pah Doo"/"Keep In Touch"; the B side being the killer Stones-y
pounder and better track. A 45 on the Tampa-based Paris Tower
label in '67 "Run And Hide" b/w "Love And Dreams", was followed
by a pair of covers on the vanity "Rogue" label ("Do You Love Me"/
"Mickey's Monkey"). They travelled throughout the southeast region
of the USA, and were still performing as of a few years back.
At least one member has passed on.
MopTopMike
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Message: 18
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 23:40:41 +0100
From: Ken Silverwood
Subject: Re: Need Spectropoppers help!!!
> (Mikey, might it be the Unknowns, released on Parrot 307 in
> 1966? Signed, Smarty Pants S'pop Moderator)
The* Unknowns* were Mark Lindsay, Keith Allison & Steve Alaimo
it says here.
Ken On The West Coast.
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Message: 19
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 15:50:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: Revolution Revelation
Alan,
What's the story on the Joe Butler LP, Revolution Revelation
'69 which he tried to pass off as a Lovin' Spoonful LP?
You guys were on it.
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Message: 20
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:53:55 -0000
From: Mark T
Subject: Lesley Miller
I am assuming that the Lesley's song that is being spoken
about by Orpheus is Lesley Miller, who was married to Alan
Lorber. She had 5 or 6 singles on RCA and MGM and most of
them are quite good. Anyone know anything more about her?
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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:12:35 +0100
From: Ken Silverwood
Subject: Re: instrumental vocals / the real J.C.
I have a version of "Cast Your Fate etc" by Steve Alaimo
from mid 1965 this was the only version with words I heard
until a couple of years ago. It seems the words are noticeably
different in each of the versions mentioned. There is also an
instrumental version by the "Marketts" which I happen to have.
Ken On The West Coast.
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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:55:48 -0000
From: Mark T
Subject: Razor's Edge
They had 4 singles on Pow and except for one psychedelic track,
they are all quite good. I haven't heard their songs as the
American Beatles but I know they had 2 on Roulette and 2 on BYU.
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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:59:36 -0000
From: Mark T
Subject: Eternity's Children on Gear Fab
Nice release but does anyone know why they included the A-sides
of the Linda Lawley and Charles Ross singles but not the B-sides.
At 16 tracks there was certainly time and space for inclusion.
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Message: 24
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:25:54 +0100
From: Ken Silverwood
Subject: Re: Lulu
Bill George:
> I really like Lulu's Atco work. "To Sir With Love",
> regardless how pretty it is, just isn't very representative
> of what Lulu was capable of.
I thought her best Atco recording was " Oh Me Oh My (I'm A
Fool For You Baby ), do I recall this as a B J Thomas "b" side ?
Ken On The West Coast.
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Message: 25
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 22:57:51 -0000
From: Mark T
Subject: In Crowd
There were quite a few different In Crowds. The one with two
singles on Viva I don't think is the same as the Abnak one
that backed Jon and Robin. I think that is related to (or may
be) The Five Americans. There is also an In Crowd that had a
nice surfy 2-sider on Musicor.
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