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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Al Kooper
From: Eddy
2. Re: Alvin Robinson
From: Richard Williams
3. Re: Jeff Lynne
From: Mark Frumento
4. Re: Jeff Lynne
From: Paul Bryant
5. Re: non-male Vinyl Junkies
From: Paul Bryant
6. Re: THE Al Kooper?
From: Mac Joseph
7. Re: ELO
From: Mark Frumento
8. Re: Alvin Robinson / What is soul?
From: Clay Stabler
9. Re: Artie Wayne; Vance-Pockriss
From: Artie Wayne
10. answer songs
From: Artie Wayne
11. Re: Jaynetts & other sing-a-long flipsides
From: Andres Jurak
12. Al Kooper/Pat Lundy
From: Matthew Kaplan
13. Cathy Lynn and Marsha Brody
From: Ian Slater
14. Questions for Al
From: Mac Joseph
15. Re: Ben E. King - What is soul?
From: Mike Rashkow
16. Randy VanWarmer: rest in peace.
From: Clark Besch
17. Re: Inept / Mistakes
From: C. Ponti
18. Re: Scooby-Doo
From: Austin Roberts
19. Re: Bobby Pedrick
From: Austin Roberts
20. Re: Gene Hughes
From: Austin Roberts
21. Re: Fruitgum Co.
From: Austin Roberts
22. Re: Scooby Doo / Gary & Larry / Tuesday's Children
From: Bob Rashkow
23. sister rosetta tharpe
From: wendy flynn
24. Thanks
From: Artie Butler
25. Re: Scooby Doo
From: Austin Roberts
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 12:23:23 +0100
From: Eddy
Subject: Al Kooper
Hi Al,
Allow me to join the welcoming committee here. Great to have
you aboard! I have always had a keen interest in your various
production and guest sessions. So besides a gazillion other
questions, I have always wondered why you didn't produce the
Tubes' second album. I think the first one is absolutely
magnificent and put the band on the map from the first note.
What happened?
And btw, for those that like to keep up to speed... this
month's Relix magazine has an interview with Al on
http://www.relix.com/kooper
Eddy
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:38:19 +0000
From: Richard Williams
Subject: Re: Alvin Robinson
Mick Patrick wrote:
> "The US release of Alvin Robinson's "Fever" clearly indicates
> that it was a Leiber-Stoller Production, Arranged by Mike Stoller.
> Magnificent record, by the way. Although the Little Willie John
> and Peggy Lee versions take some beating."
They do, and it does. Thanks for the info, Mick. I still want
to know who played on it, though, and I haven't discounted a
possible New Orleans connection, via Joe Jones. It doesn't sound
like a Stoller chart to me.
Richard Williams
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 12:16:25 -0000
From: Mark Frumento
Subject: Re: Jeff Lynne
I wrote:
> He may not technically be a great producer
Peter wrote:
> Not technically great? How on earth did you come
> to this conclusion?
Ok now, hold on... I didn't arrive at that sentence scientifically.
However poorly I worded it I was trying to defend him at his level
of competence. He's a good producer (in my opinion he did his best
work with his own band but that's just my preference) but I don't
know if he's really the innovator it takes to be great....however
much you and I love his work.
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 04:28:27 -0800 (PST)
From: Paul Bryant
Subject: Re: Jeff Lynne
Mark Frumento wrote:
> I for one am glad to read posts in defense of Jeff Lynne.
Between 1967 and 1973 I always thought Jeff Lynne was
trying to write all the songs Paul McCartney never got
round to. The two fab Idle Race albums are stuffed
with McCartney songs. This continued through the Move
period and into early ELO (e.g. "Mr Radio"). After
that I lost the plot with Jeff. But I caught up with
Armchair Theatre, and on that one the drum sound ain't
just fat, it's obese.
By the way, I found a nice li'l Idle Race boot - I
never knew such a thing existed, I thought I was the
world's only Idle Race fan - containing all their BBC
sessions & some outtakes, and it came to me from
Minnesota, of all places.
pb
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 04:33:36 -0800 (PST)
From: Paul Bryant
Subject: Re: non-male Vinyl Junkies
Art Longmire:
> One statement made in the text really caught my eye
> --someone was quoted as saying that there are no
> female record collectors! There's got to be some
> somewhere, although I personally don't know any ..."
Thorny question - in a few music related discussion
groups I participated in there are almost no female
participants - what's the proportion in this group?
Tiny? I thought so! And again, how many females have
you known who collect music at all? It seems to be a
boy thing, but I don't understand why as this seems to
apply to all types of music.
My tentative theory is that "collecting music" falls
into the larger category of "collecting", and females
are not big collectors of anything. You may apply crude
Darwinisn to this theory or not, as you see fit.
pb
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 05:06:11 -0800 (PST)
From: Mac Joseph
Subject: Re: THE Al Kooper?
Hello, Fellow Spectropoppers;
I would like to second that, on what Scott wrote. It is truly
exciting to have someone of Al Koopers stature on board! Who
that was around in the 60's didn't know who the Blues Project was!
They sure don't make bands like that anymore. Welcome, Al!!!!
Mac Joseph
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 13:00:20 -0000
From: Mark Frumento
Subject: Re: ELO
John Berg wrote:
> I will be so bold as to say that I like ELO! So there!
> OK, I mostly like their early stuff as they were evolving
> from The Move, who I adore.
Hey, come right out and say it!!! For my part I like every ELO
record except Secret Messages. Call me a sucker for sappy melodies,
I don't care. I love Jeff Lynne's songs from the Idle Race to Zoom.
If that ousts me from the serious music society then so be it. :>))
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 13:48:51 -0000
From: Clay Stabler
Subject: Re: Alvin Robinson / What is soul?
Richard Williams wrote:
> ... "What is Soul": so popular
> was Ben E.King's record in UK discotheques that it became the
> title track of a succesful Atlantic budget-price compilation.
Reminds me of another budget UK soul comp series titled "This is
Soul" put out by Fourstar. Track list below is from Volume 2 and
includes Ben E. King and other soul stalwarts. Nice selection but
many are cover versions by other soul artists. And what are the
Kingsmen doing in there?
1. Up On The Roof -- The Drifters
2. I (Who Have Nothing) -- Ben E. King
3. Louie, Louie -- The Kingsmen
4. It's The Same Old Song -- Martha Reeves
5. Try A Little Tenderness -- Percy Sledge
6. Slip Away -- Clarence Carter
7. Respect -- Sam and Dave
8. It's Just A Matter Of Time -- Brook Brenton
9. Band of Gold -- Mel Carter
10. On Broadway -- The Drifters
11. Feelings -- Dobie Gray
12. Nowhere To Run -- Martha Reeves
13. How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved By You) -- Sam and Dave
14. You Little Trustmaker -- The Tymes
Clay Stabler
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 05:55:35 -0800 (PST)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: Artie Wayne; Vance-Pockriss
Mike.......How ya' doin'? During the late sixties, my partner
Kelli Ross and I [Alouette productions] ran Peter Udell and
Gary Geld's publishing companies.
Although I'd like to take credit for getting "Hurting Each Other"
to the Carpenters, it probably was brought to their attention by
Al Stanton, head of A+Ms A+R dept. who'd once worked for Kapp
Records, where Ruby and the Romantics had recorded prior to
releasing their version on A&M of this Jimmy Clanton original.
Geld/Udell had some of the most coverable songs I ever worked
with....they also were excellent producers, and in my opinion,
cut some of the best records in Brian Hyland's career "Sealed
With a Kiss", "Save your Heart for Me", [which my freind Ed
Silvers, while at Scepter records, got Snuff Garrett to produce
with Gary Lewis.]
regards,
Artie Wayne
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 06:04:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: answer songs
I've been enjoying so many of the Spectropop posts that I
almost forgot to add to the answer song list, "[I'll Meet
you at] Midnight Joey" by Lorna Dune, which I co-wrote with
Ben Raleigh which is the answer to, "[Meet me at] Midnight
Mary" [Raleigh/Wayne] by Joey Powers.
regards,
Artie Wayne
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 14:15:15 -0000
From: Andres Jurak
Subject: Re: Jaynetts & other sing-a-long flipsides
Michael Fishberg wrote:
> Further to the Jaynetts' "Sally Go 'Round The Roses" -
> the flip was just the backing track (with the girls faintly
> heard). I think I've got another 7" on Tuff by another group
> that has this poor value phenomenon.
A. The Patty Cakes - I UNDERSTAND THEM (LOVE SONG TO BEATLES)
B. the same instrumental
Actually, the Patty Cakes and the Jaynetts were the same team
of girls
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 09:26:58 EST
From: Matthew Kaplan
Subject: Al Kooper/Pat Lundy
While we are all here praising Mr. Al Kooper, one of the things that I am
amazed at is complete knowledge of his past endeavors...most
musicians tend to
forget their past either on purpose or as a result of years of
hard living.
A couple of years back I found a brilliant single by Pat Lundy
called "It's
Rainin' Outside" (Leopard Records 5009, 1963) and could not find
out anything
about it anywhere (I even asked about it on this list!). Just
by luck I found
an email address for Al Kooper, who had the writing credit on the
single, and
on the off chance I shot off an email to the man. Not only did
he remember
the single but also the lyrics and this is for a single that is
40 years old!
By the way if there is anything else that Al is willing to say
about this
great slab'o'wax I would be happy to read about it and if you
have not heard
this single it is a massive stomper!
So I want to say thank you again to Al Kooper for the info on the
Pat Lundy
single and welcome him to the world of Spectropop.
Matthew Kaplan
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 16:12:39 -0000
From: Ian Slater
Subject: Cathy Lynn and Marsha Brody
Re: Cathy Lynn and Marsha Brody
Back in July during a discussion about the above artists,
I speculated about whether they might have been the same
person. They were NOT - I have received an off-site message
from a reliable source, who does not wish to become involved
in the discussion. The message where I made this speculation
is archived at message 4 of Digest no. 524.
Ian Slater
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 09:48:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Mac Joseph
Subject: Questions for Al
previously:
> would be interested to know if you were involved with
> the Lewis session, and who chose to have the "Chordovox"
> sound on the organ. Was John West involved?
Al Kooper:
> Believe East Coast me, I had nothing to do with that
> West Coast session!! The arranger was early Leon Russell
> so perhaps he was the organist . I believe Jim Keltner
> played drums and Carl Radle played bass
Al,
If memory serves me right; didn't Leon Russell arrange and
produce most of Gary Lewis' music (inbetween Spector sessions?)
Mac Joseph
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 19:52:12 EST
From: Mike Rashkow
Subject: Re: Ben E. King - What is soul?
Richard Williams writes:
> Re Rashkovsky's meditations on "What is Soul": so popular
> was Ben E.King's record in UK discotheques that it became the
> title track of a succesful Atlantic budget-price compilation.
There you have it. To restate Phil S's trade ad re: River Deep -
Mountain High:
BENEDICT ARNOLD WAS RIGHT.
Di la,
Rashkovsky
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 05:40:39 -0000
From: Clark Besch
Subject: Randy VanWarmer: rest in peace.
I was just riding home from work and the news said Randy VanWarmer
died at age 48 of Leukemia. What a sad thing. I'm only a year
younger myself! I always loved his '79 giant, "Just When I Needed
You Most" (which I am listening to at the moment). I would equate it
to Austin Roberts' "Something's Wrong With Me" in terms of a sad tale
done excellently. His vocal treatment reminds me of Henry Gross.
The song came to mind recently when I heard the (then) new #1 country
record, Gary Allen's "Tough Little Boys". If you were like me the
first time you heard that song, you said "Hey, this songs steals
completely from Randy VanWarmer's classic". Take a listen if you
have access and see if you don't agree.
I have a few of his followup singles and his "Gotta Get Out of Here"
had many spins on my turntable in 79 and 80. Randy did other tunes for
artists they listed in the news, so I'm glad he more of a legacy too.
I will always remember his one hit tho with great appreciation.
Thanks, Randy. Clark
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 05:44:41 -0000
From: C. Ponti
Subject: Re: Inept / Mistakes
Albabe,
You've hit on what bothers me about most recordings being done now.
There is no longer that organic sound. Production technique has so
evolved that we can take out anything imperfect, so you have
slightly humanized virtual tracks and faultlessly recorded real
instruments and voices, all digitally recorded with none of the warm
sound of analog, and the result makes you wish for an old record
through your first stereo system. I commented on my affection for
some of the fallible sounds on "I Can't Find The Time To Tell You",
from (Orpheus). Some of the coolest cuts from way back would now be
considered "train wrecks" in the studio. The instruments would be
digitally tuned, the vocal takes comped to perfection, (and to
death), and the result would have little soul....
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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 00:43:13 EST
From: Austin Roberts
Subject: Re: Scooby-Doo
Bob Rashkow:
> I have a soft spot in my heart for TV themes, including certain
> animated shows pre-1976 or so. Who recorded the Scooby-Doo theme
> song, notable particularly for the tune--Austin Roberts did you
> work at all on this? Was it just Hanna-Barbera studio singers--
> and who penned it? It is fast becoming an early 7Ts relic.
Hey Bobster,
I've been travelling back and forth to Nashville so much lately that
I don't remember if I answered your question about Scooby Doo, but
the answer is yes. I sang the leads on the first songs done including
the theme. They still keep popping up on the cartoon network. Suits
me fine. It was a great project to be part of.
Austin
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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:00:15 EST
From: Austin Roberts
Subject: Re: Bobby Pedrick
As far as I know my old buddy Bobby (Robert John) still lives in LA.
If anyone knows more please write in. I'd love to track him down.
Best, Austin Roberts
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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:17:51 EST
From: Austin Roberts
Subject: Re: Gene Hughes
Anthony James:
> Austin, Thank you for taking the time to e-mail me about Gene
> Hughes. I never had the chance to work with him, but from what
> I have been told about him he is a great guy.
Anthony,
Gene is a very unassuming (especially to have the voice he does)
guy. I just hope he is doing better. It'll be great to see him again.
Austin
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Message: 21
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:22:21 EST
From: Austin Roberts
Subject: Re: Fruitgum Co.
Clark Besch:
> Austin, was the Fruitgum Company song "Go Away"? It was one of
> the last, 1970. Just curious.
Clark,
I'm pretty sure it wasn't Go Away, but that's what my mind does
sometimes (Go away, I mean). I think it was something I wrote but
it's been since 1968 or 69 I think.
Austin
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Message: 22
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:24:50 EST
From: Bob Rashkow
Subject: Re: Scooby Doo / Gary & Larry / Tuesday's Children
"Garlic Bread" the soul instrumental by Gary & Larry is a big
priority on my want list--if anybody knows where I can get a
decent copy of this hot 45 please E-mail me off list, thanks!
Austin Roberts, I can't seem to get the Scooby-Doo theme song
out of my mind even though I was decidedly too old to appreciate
the series itself. Again, great job. By the 3 of you. I don't
recall any of the other tunes from the series, but I'd be willing
to bet there's some kind of CD comp with some of them.
Sammy Lowe arranged and conducted an interesting but totally
unsuccessful soul recording on Columbia by "Tuesday's Children"
called "I'll Be Back". Approximately 1967. I have a DJ copy and
I think it's the cat's PJs. Does anybody on the group know
anything about these gals--the lead singer was far from
outstanding, although her voice along with Lowe's stirring
arrangement make this one a winner in my book.
Bobster
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Message: 23
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 17:23:21 +0000
From: wendy flynn
Subject: sister rosetta tharpe
dear s'poppers
unfortunately i just dont pay attention often enough. back in november
some members were discussing a famous 60s japanese pop composer/writer.
can someone please give me the name again? i promise i will remember
this time. also - can anyone recommend their favourite Sister Rosetta
Tharpe lp - I'm not sure where to start with this formidable lady.
thanks!
wendy
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Message: 24
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 13:23:23 EST
From: Artie Butler
Subject: Thanks
Hi Michel,
I just wanted to thank you for your very kind words about some of
my work in the past. When we made many of these records years ago,
we never ever thought that they would be around all these years
later. That's the beauty and power of music. You never know who it
will touch or when or where. Again thanks for your kind words.
Regards,
Artie Butler
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Message: 25
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:31:44 EST
From: Austin Roberts
Subject: Re: Scooby Doo
> Austin Roberts: Can you clear something up for me? Did you sing
> the lead vocal of the original "Scooby-Doo" theme song, or just
> do some of the session backing on the other music for the show?
> I seem to have missed something after you showed up on the list.
> If that WAS you, I can only say I love that song...very
> Beatlesque. None of the followup "Scooby" themes compare...don't
> get me started on Scrappy-Doo.
Yes, I sang lead vocals on all of the first Scooby songs. I
appreciate your asking.
Austin Roberts
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