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There are 5 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. For the love of Mike Clifford
From: Mick Patrick
2. Abba Gold
From: S'pop Team
3. Re: Raga Rock
From: Stewart Mason
4. "Go Away Little Girl" / "That's What They Said"
From: Julio Niņo
5. Re: The Everlys' "Lord Of The Manor"
From: Al Kooper
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 20:09:16 +0100
From: Mick Patrick
Subject: For the love of Mike Clifford
Country Paul on Mike Clifford:
> One of my faves by him is "One By One The Roses Died," which was
> an Italian hit too, I think. Anyone know or know of the original?
> Is it as good as Clifford's? And is his stuff reissued on CD at
> all? Talk about an all-but-forgotten hitmaker....
All-but-forgotten, except here at S'pop, eh? To the best of my
knowledge, Mike Clifford is poorly represented on CD. Shame, as he
made some top-of-the-range Brill Building teen idol-style records.
I guess having Jerry Leiber & Mike Stoller as his producers helped.
I've posted one of my favourites to musica, a rather rare early
co-composition by (move over for a moment please, Carole King) Ellie
Greenwich: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/spectropop/files/musica/
Details are: Mike Clifford "That's What They Said" (United Artists
557, 1962). Written by Ben Raleigh and Ellie Greenwich. Arranged and
conducted by Alan Lorber. Produced by Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller.
Hey la,
Mick Patrick
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 20:25:39 +0100
From: S'pop Team
Subject: Abba Gold
New @ S'pop: Abba Gold
Elisabeth Vincentelli's new book about those Swedish pop
geniuses' classic album "Abba Gold" gets the thumbs up in a
review by Sheila B, on-line now @ S'pop Recommends:
http://www.spectropop.com/recommends/index2004.htm#AbbaGold
Enjoy!
The S'pop Team
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 12:38:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Stewart Mason
Subject: Re: Raga Rock
Patrick Rands wrote:
> ...What is the history behind this type of song? Did
> it start with The Beatles and The Byrds or were there
> underground artists doing it first (maybe on ESP?)...
In fact, ESP-Disk released an album (in 1967) by a
group called the Seventh Sons called RAGA that the
liner notes claimed was recorded in 1964. If true,
this would make it a pioneering raga-rock effort,
although frankly, it's pretty light on the rock (aside
from a fairly heavy rhythm section) and more in
keeping with ESP's avant-jazz leanings. The Seventh
Sons were led by Buzzy Linhart, later a solo artist
beloved by some.
> I also wonder if some of the songs without the sitars
> are still influenced by Indian music
There are no sitars on the Kinks' "See My Friends," an
early 1965 single that was explicitly influenced by
Indian music, and which is widely considered the first
raga-rock single.
> or is there any other influence which could've
> occurred (like minimalism?).
Well, don't forget that the minimalists themselves
were directly influenced by Indian musicians. Philip
Glass studied with Ravi Shankar in Paris in 1964, and
he writes in his autobiography that it was during this
period, when he was trying to do a standard Western
notation of one of Shankar's pieces, that he hit upon
the ideas that he would explore and refine for the
rest of his career.
> I wonder if there was a point where the repetitive
> one chord songs no longer have that psychedelic
> vibe influenced from the raga, and instead become
> mindnumbing punkers - or was that not done before
> punk and alternative rock?
I'm not sure what you mean. For example, where would
the Velvet Underground's "Sister Ray" (a drone
recorded in late 1967 but much more influenced by
LaMonte Young than Ravi Shankar) fit into your thesis?
S
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 20:23:31 -0000
From: Julio Niņo
Subject: "Go Away Little Girl" / "That's What They Said"
Hola Everybody.
Bob Celli wrote:
> I've just posted the demo of "Go Away Little Girl" done by
> Carole King for Bobby Vee to musica...
Bob, Youīve got us mesmerized with Carole's demos and the very
interesting information about them. "Go Away Little Girl", with
Carole singing to another girl is very suggestive, in my opinion
she sounded specially convincing in that demo. I also like very
much the childish version of the song by Donny Osmond.
Mick Patrick :
> I've posted one of my favourite (Mike Clifford songs) to
> musica, "That's What They Said"...
I didnīt know anything about Mike Clifford . "That's What They
Said" is a beautiful song. Please tell me more about him.
Chao.
Julio Niņo.
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2004 16:06:57 EDT
From: Al Kooper
Subject: Re: The Everlys' "Lord Of The Manor"
Previously:
> I loved Lord Of The Manor and was hoping they would stay in that
> direction. Who produced that album? Was it Wes Farrell?
I think not.
> I met the Everlys backstage at a concert in '95, and meant to ask
> them about the song, but never did.
I saw 'em play it live at The Bitter End in 1971 and spent the evening
with them. I believe Don wrote it but had to give their bass player
credit for writing it for legal reasons.
JJ asked:
> Any idea if "Lord of the Manor" is available on cd?
A reply:
> Yes, LORD OF THE MANOR is on the 2CD compilation, Walk Right Back:
> The Everly Brothers on Warner Brothers 1960-1969.
Thought it was also on the Warners one called Heartaches & Harmonies.
This Al Kooper
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