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There are 13 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Beach Boys Today
From: Mike Edwards
2. Al Kooper & Cheryl Dilcher
From: Steve Harvey
3. Re: Attention Bonologists - Phil's Spectre III?
From: Paul Woods
4. Re: Zelda Samuels
From: Joop Jansen
5. I'm on iTunes!
From: Bill George
6. Much ado about John Carter
From: Dave Monroe
7. Re: Uncredited 1959 Spector production in musica?
From: Martin Roberts
8. Re: A Drop of Golden Sun
From: Artie Wayne
9. Phil's Spectre II: Another Wall Of Soundalikes
From: S'pop Projects
10. Young Lions (and other Young Lions); Gillian Hills; Beau Brummels; John Carter; Race Marbles
From: Country Paul
11. "The Jack Nitzsche Story" CD review
From: ACJ
12. Re: Bob Crewe and Oliver
From: Mike Miller
13. Benny Spellman
From: Country Paul
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 19:43:58 -0000
From: Mike Edwards
Subject: Re: Beach Boys Today
Jens Koch wrote:
> But if you were to count the singer who had the most leads
> of all of the BB hits it would certainly boil down to Mike
> Love. Love Mike or not, he's still there at the front of the
> current band,
Indeed he is. The Mike Love-Bruce Johnston version of the band is
currently on tour and appeared on NBC TV's Toyota Summer Concert
Series last Friday morning (August 12). (I believe Mike had to
license the group name for the tour).
There's a video clip on NBC's website in which the group perform
"Surfin' USA", "California Girls" and "Barbara Ann". The clip also
features Matt Lauer and Katie Couric interviewing Mike and Bruce.
It's currently playing at:
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3041478/
Mike Edwards
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 21:43:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve Harvey
Subject: Al Kooper & Cheryl Dilcher
Neil Hever a écrit:
> a member of I, She and Me, Cheryl Dilcher's first high school era
> band ... Does anyone on the list have any other information about
> the group or Cheryl Dilcher?
Stephane Rebeschini:
> Hi, There's a fan website here, and the webmaster has a contact
> with Cheryl Dilcher:
> http://www.geocities.com/cheryldilcher/CherylDilcherPage.html
Since Al Kooper was on her last album maybe he has some insight on
her career.
Steve Harvey
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 16:22:07 +0100
From: Paul Woods
Subject: Re: Attention Bonologists - Phil's Spectre III?
Rick Hough wrote:
> For better or for worse, '60s Sonny & Cher now have a home on the
> www: BEHIND THE MAKING OF SONNY & CHER:
> http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~peggylee/
Looking at this nice site reminded me that either side of the S&C
single "Il Cammino di ogni speranza" or "L'humanita" would be prime
candidates for a Volume 3 of the Phil's Spectre series. Great stuff!
Paul Woods
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 17:37:56 -0000
From: Joop Jansen
Subject: Re: Zelda Samuels
Bill George asked:
> Hi all, I was wondering if anyone could give me any info on a
> songwriter named Zelda Samuels? She wrote a song with Jackie
> DeShannon called Give Me A Break.
Zelda Samuels was a female staff-writer for Sam Cooke's SAR label.
Most famous song she wrote was "Lookin' For A Love," first recorded
by The Valentinos in 1962, then covered in 1972 by the J. Geils Band
and in 1974 by Bobby Womack (#1 R&B), who had been a member of The
Valentinos. However, working as Mel Carter's manager she apparently
had an argument with Sam in 1963 that led to them leaving SAR:
http://www.spectropop.com/archive/digest/m524.html
A picture of her is shown on this link:
http://www.history-of-rock.com/cooke.htm
Joop greets
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 14:16:48 EDT
From: Bill George
Subject: I'm on iTunes!
A while back I posted about a new release that I sang on, called
"Geometrics" by L. Warde. It is now up on iTunes for all to hear. You
can hear me on tracks 1, 2 and 4. I'm also on track 7, but not during
the sample that is posted. Check it out -- it's really nice music.
Bill
(only about five posts behind now! - Just call me Country Bill. Haha!)
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 11:39:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dave Monroe
Subject: Much ado about John Carter
Phil X Milstein wrote:
> Ain't the dude's real name "Shakespeare"? ... one of his other
> albums, "Measure For Measure," ... Next, I suppose they'll be
> titling his ... outtakes album "The Comedy Of Errors." I mean,
> stop the madness!
All's well that ends well ...
Dave M.
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 23:35:25 +0100
From: Martin Roberts
Subject: Re: Uncredited 1959 Spector production in musica?
David A. Young wrote:
> So, Rob, where did you turn up this story? And Spectropop jukebox
> jury, do you agree with me that the record now playing in musica
> could very well prove it to be true? I chose the B-side both
> because I feel that it provides a more compelling case for the
> affirmative argument and because I hate summertime ...
Rob Finnis' bright red book, filling the window of Rock On's shop
window in Camden, was one of the most important pieces of the jigsaw
that fuelled my lust for 7" of the US variety. Like David I had
pondered Mr. Finnis' comments about the Young Lions. Really cool to
hear this track and, with reservations about the first chorus, I love
it! Is it really Mr. S? Sounds like it could be and Phil does bleat
about the records he didn't receive credit for, but my feeling is
that the disc is inspired -- but not created -- our favourite
sorcerer. Go on David, forget your loathing of the summer sun, play
the A-side!
Martin
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 13:03:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: A Drop of Golden Sun
One of the main reasons I joined Spectropop was the appreciation, by
its members, of the well-crafted Pop song, the kind that dominated
the Top 40 charts in the 1960s. I'm formerly a "Colored", "Black",
"Negro", and currently a "Bi-Racial", African-American songwriter/
producer/publisher, who started in that era, who is still interested
and active in all kinds of music today. Every weekend I religiously
listen to the Top Ten on MTV, VH1, Country Music Television, and the
Black Entertainment Network, to stay aware of the market. I'll admit,
the last few years have been very discouraging.
The only genre in which the Pop song, as we knew it, has consistently
evolved is country music. The song is still well-crafted, cleverly
written, and heartfelt. It is also universally considered the most
important ingredient in the recording process. The field is currently
dominated by some of the best singer/songwiters, coming from all
around the world, including Gretchen Wilson (USA), Keith Urban
(Australia), and Shania Twain (Canada).
As far as music that might have evolved from '60s bubblegum hits
Levine/ Resnick produced, Fountains of Wayne and Bowling for Soup
are really satisfying. Over the last year or so, I've watched bands
like Coldplay emerge who might be considered the grandsons of The
Left Banke. As I'm writing this I can hear Coldplay singing "Walk
Away Renee" in my head.
As far as the current state of rap goes, Its glorification of
inappropriate behavior and pursuit of things I care little about
overshadows everything else. How many times can you, "Raise your
hands in the air and wave 'em like you just don't care"? Then, about
a year ago, I heard what Kanye West was doing and I knew from that
point on the genre had been elevated!
As far as R&B goes, the listening and viewing public is starting to
demand more from today's artists. Check out by R. Kelly's brilliant
"Trapped In A Closet", which rivals anything Marvin Gaye ever
released. I can't wait to hear what Usher, the Michael Jackson of his
generation, is going to come up with next.
Personally, I'd like to hear some more '60s and '70s songs covered by
today's artists. Can you imagine "Happy Together" being done by Tim
McGraw and Faith Hill? "Rock And Roll Heaven" being revived by The
Foo Fighters or American Idol Bo Bice? Alan Gordon, Alan O'Day ...
are you listening?
One thing that I'm certain of for the rest of my life I will love
songs -- past, present and future. Long Live Spectropop! Happy
Anniversary!
Regards,
Artie Wayne
http://artiewayne.com
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 01:01:15 +0100
From: S'pop Projects
Subject: Phil's Spectre II: Another Wall Of Soundalikes
They don't call him Spectorcollector for nothing, ya know . . .
The much-discussed "Phil's Spectre II: Another Wall Of Soundalikes"
falls under the scrutiny of David A. Young at the S'pop Recommends
section.
An excerpt:
...Especially noteworthy is the care with which Clydie King's
transcendently elegant single "The Thrill Is Gone" has been brought
to digital life for the first time - in shimmering stereo, yet.
This sublime slice of heaven is one of two songs on the disc that
consistently, and literally, produce goose bumps and shivers every
time I play them. The other is Reparata & the Delrons' legendary
"I'm Nobody's Baby Now", also making its CD debut here. There are
so few times that such an extraordinary song, such an incandescent
interpretation, and such a cataclysmic production have co-existed
on the same slab of vinyl that one can only humble oneself in its
shattering presence...
Find David's full review here:
http://www.spectropop.com/recommends/index2005.htm#PSII
And one from Kingsley here: http://tinyurl.com/a3mye
Enjoy,
The S'pop Team
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 00:59:28 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: Young Lions (and other Young Lions); Gillian Hills; Beau Brummels; John Carter; Race Marbles
Currently at musica: The Young Lions, "Maybe Someday" - Wow, what a
find! Thanks, David Young, for playing this neat little song to
musica. (Those first 4 bars are the obvious model of the opening of
Paris Sisters' "Be My Boy," leading me to believe there is probable
Phil Spector involvement.) Interestingly, this same group had a
beautiful 45 on Dot in late 1960 called "It Would Be," which moved
this Teddy-Bears-influenced sound even closer to The Spector's 3's "I
Really Do." By the way, I'm looking for an e-copy of "It Would Be."
Could anyone can help point me to a CD or an mp3, please?
(From empirical experience, googling this group is darn near
impossible, with thousands of entries on a book, a movie, and a
Danish rock band all called The Young Lions. One entry is worth
noting: a New Jersey group of local stars, at least for their 15
minutes of fame in the 60s, called Richard & The Young Lions. Many of
them are back together; check them out at:
http://richardandtheyounglions.com/index.asp.)
Also at musica: Gillian Hills, "Look At Them" - I don't know the
source, but this sweet little record found its way into my collection
last year. I assume there's more about her in upcoming [for me]
digests.*
*Still catching up....
> Three Hours At Gold Star
> Recording The Beau Brummels
> by Al Hazan
> http://www.spectropop.com/BeauBrummels/index.htm
Nice reminiscence, Al, about one of the most under-rated groups of the
progressive revolution. Thanks for sharing it.
Joop on John Carter:
> In 1998 the Westside label released a John Carter CD of the Denmark
> Street demo's 1963-1967): http://tinyurl.com/93f52
> Here is a great review of that CD on our own Spectropop-site:
> http://www.spectropop.com/archive/digest/m97.html
Kinda caught me off-guard to also see correspondence from Jamie LePage
there, too....
Not to be missed: Race Marbles' "Like A Dribbling Fram" (Tower 194,
1966), #10 in Phil Milstein's 10 "covers" of "Like A Rolling Stone" at
http://www.philxmilstein.com/probe/. Personally, I think my clam *is*
in a jam. (I seem to remember this as a Canadian product.)
Country Paul
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 22:31:09 -0500
From: ACJ
Subject: "The Jack Nitzsche Story" CD review
Just in case nobody else has forwarded this, here's a Minnesota
review of "Hearing Is Believing: The Jack Nitzsche Story" CD. I
think the man liked it. (And no, I don't know if he's the "Break
My Stride" singer.)
Various Artists: Hearing Is Believing: The Jack Nitzsche Story
1962-1979: http://citypages.com/databank/26/1289/article13609.asp
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 23:20:22 EDT
From: Mike Miller
Subject: Re: Bob Crewe and Oliver
For the earliest "Oliver" try his first lp on Dynovoice by The Good
Earth Trio of which he was a major part. Very nice album before the
songs "Jean" and "Good Morning Starshine" which must have been after
the group disbanded.
Mike Miller
DooWopDaddy
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 23:45:22 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: Benny Spellman
Catching up again; some of this may have already been covered....
JB:
> I was also surprised to find out that "Lipstick Traces" was
> actually originally a New Orleans soul nugget recorded by Benny
> Spellman.
...who sang the famous phrase "Mother in law" on Ernie K-Doe's record
of the same name. Uncredited and frustrated, he asked Allen Toussaint
to write a hit for him; thus, the similarity in the phrase "Dion't
leave me no more" in "Lipstick Traces."
Bob Rashkow:
> ... [Is]the one and only Kris Jensen...alive today? Anyone know
> him or know of him these days? I want to kiss his hand. This is
> the "Torture" guy!!!
I too love the record, and hadn't realized the extent of his
discography. For the rockabilly side, check out:
http://rcs.law.emory.edu/rcs/artists/j/jens5000.htm
Country Paul
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