Spectropop - Digest Number 643

• From: Spectropop Group
• Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002

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                        Jamie LePage (1953-2002)
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There are 18 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Jack Nitzsche At updates
           From: Martin Roberts 
      2. Bits'n'bobs
           From: Kingsley Abbott 
      3. Brit girls photo
           From: David Bell 
      4. More Reflections
           From: Stefan Wriedt 
      5. Re: Brit girls photo
           From: Richard Tearle 
      6. Beware of Questionable Archies Information!
           From: Stuffed Animal 
      7. Re: Northern Soul
           From: Ron Buono 
      8. Re: "Girl Groups" Is Not "War and Peace"
           From: Mikey 
      9. For John & Geri Clemente & Co.
           From: Jimmy Crescitelli 
     10. Wallpaper Of Sound -- Phil Spector Songbook
           From: Patrick Rands 
     11. Re: Archies Information!
           From: Dan Hughes 
     12. Re: WALLPAPER OF SOUND - THE SONGS OF PHIL SPECTOR & FRIENDS
           From: Mick Patrick 
     13. Re: Northern Soul/ Value Site
           From: Leonardo Flores 
     14. Re: Reflecting on The Reflections
           From: Jeff Lemlich 
     15. Re: The Reflections
           From: Martin Roberts 
     16. Re: The Reflections
           From: Mikey 
     17. Jack Nitzsche Update
           From: Martin Roberts 
     18. Re: Reflecting on The Reflections
           From: Phil Chapman 


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Message: 1
   Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 16:54:03 +0100
   From: Martin Roberts 
Subject: Jack Nitzsche At updates

A few treats have recently been added to Jack Nitzsche At 
Spectropop: http://www.spectropop.com/JackNitzsche/index.htm

1/ Do you remember Ken Levine's posting to Spectropop a month 
or so back? He wrote about KHJ Boss radio AND some Jack Nitzsche 
custom made instrumental jingles. Well, he's kindly made them 
available to the site. These are not to be missed. Follow the 
link to the new Nitzsche Radio page.

2/ Any Paris Sisters Fans out there? Well, for the answer to 
a puzzling reply from Jack in his BOMP interview and a couple 
of surprises, follow the Record Reviews link.

3/ Record Of The Week is from everybody's favourite granny, 
Dora Hall, with her recording of "Hoochi – Koochi". I couldn't 
keep Christopher Monte "Giants Of Bombora" in place any longer! 
But I hope most of you got to hear it.

Martin



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Message: 2
   Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 09:52:17 +0100
   From: Kingsley Abbott 
Subject: Bits'n'bobs

Hi Richard W - any chance you could post the time
and location for the Motown Shadows film showing.
Would it be NFT?  Thanks...

Back to the Reflections - the mention of UK covers
reminded me that I had put Peter's Faces pretty 
nifty version of "(Just Like) Romeo & Juliet" as track
4 on Ripples Vol 5 Beach Bash!  I've gone and pulled
that one out again.  Peter was the same Peter Nelson
who later graced The Flowerpot Men and White Plains.
There is also another cover of the song by the wonderful
Honeys on their Swedish LP "It's Like Heaven".
Also, lets not forget that the Reflections benefitted from 
the arranging talents of the excellent Mr C Calello.  No
wonder we are all so hot for them!

BTW I'm still looking for anyone with info, photos, or 
contacts for any musicians/venues/concerts/etc with a 
Sinatra connection. this group has thrown up some good 
contacts, but any more are most welcome via off-list 
mailings - Ta.

Kingsley



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Message: 3
   Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 09:16:07 -0000
   From: David Bell 
Subject: Brit girls photo

I'm hoping that someone in the group will be able to help 
out with a photo that I've been trying to trace for many 
years now. Circa 1963/1964, a photo was published in the 
Daily Mail/Daily Express (?) of seemingly dozens of British 
girl singers. I seem to remember it was taken on the Embankment 
in London. I also remember Dusty, Julie Grant, Helen Shapiro 
and Susan Singer (there's a forgotten name) being on it. 
Since Beverley Jones has also been on my mind recently, I'm 
hoping that she will be featured too.
Just the slightest hint of where and when for this item, I will 
go to the British Library, which holds copies of all newspapers 
from this time.

David.



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Message: 4
   Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 15:25:23 +0200
   From: Stefan Wriedt 
Subject: More Reflections

Goldmine #244 (Dec. '89) did an article (with a newer picture) 
on the Reflections in their "One-Hit Wonders" column. A nice 
piece by Stu Fink, but without any discography.
According to my notes, both the Reflections on Crossraods and 
Tigre are different groups.
Tigre + Went releases each have "In the Still Of The Night" on 
one side, so it's the same group.

Here's the info from the labels:

white NY group?:
Crossroads (Records Inc. N.Y.) # 401 (a "Posner-Saslaw Production") 
- Maybe Tomorrow (Davenport-Olando) Sheba Music BMI
/I Really Must Know (Davenport-Heardman) Sheba Music BMI
with Pete Bennett Orch.
(Davenport = Otis Blackwell ???) haven't checked BMI yet ...

Crossroads (Records, Inc. 135-06 N. Hemp. Tpke, Flushing, N.Y.) 
# 402 ("A Posner-Saslaw Production") -
Rocket To The Moon (not listed) Profile Music BMI
/Because Of You (A. Hammerstein-D. Wilkinson) Gower Music BMI
with Pete Bennett Orch.

Tigre (Records, National Dist. Ran-Dee Record Corp., Chicago, 
Ill.) #602 ("A Jan Hutchens Prod.") -
(I Remember) In The Still Of The Night (Arr. Rick Fortune) 
Cherio Music B.M.I.
/Tic Toc (G. Leinenweber) (Arr. Rick Fortune) M M Cole B.M.I.

the G.W: group:
Kay Ko (Record Co.) # 1003 ("Produced by Mark Stern & Barry Kay") 
- Helpless (Coleman) Little Chance BMI
/You Said Good Bye (Coleman) Little Chance BMI(ZTSC 90662 / 90663)

Martin Roberts, can you please add details for the WENT release?

did anybody notice that one side on GW 19 + GW 20 was arranged by
"Callelo"?

Stefan



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Message: 5
   Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 14:09:06 -0000
   From: Richard Tearle 
Subject: Re: Brit girls photo

David Bell wrote:
> I'm hoping that someone in the group will be able to help 
> out with a photo that I've been trying to trace for many 
> years now. 

Hi David - Bad news is I can't help you directly, but I have 
posted a message in my 60s group for any information - we'll 
see if there's any replies
Cheers

Richard



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Message: 6
   Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 17:13:07 +0000
   From: Stuffed Animal 
Subject: Beware of Questionable Archies Information!

Dan:
> David asks about the song Betty Betty Go Steady With Me.
> It was recorded by the Archies. ref.
http://community-2.webtv.net/pLuMcRaZy4rOn/archiesongs/page3.html
> ....Two other songs recorded in the winter of 1969 during
> the "Feelin' So Good" recording session didn't make it to
> the show or record either. They were: "Betty Betty Go Steady
> With Me", and "Are You Ever Coming Home".....

I recognize your information as coming from the PlumCrazy4RonDante 
website, whose claims are highly questionable.  At any rate, 
Beverly Ross and Jeff Barry did NOT write any material for 
The Archies. The Archies recorded from 1968 to 1972; Ross and 
Barry only wrote together in the very early '60s, prior to his 
partnering with Ellie Greenwich.  Furthermore, "Betty Betty" is 
not a Kirshner/KEC copyright, as all Jeff Barry songs recorded 
by The Archies were.  There is no evidence that either this song 
or "Are You Ever Coming Home"(an Andy Kim B-side) were ever cut 
by The Archies, and I seriously doubt that they were. "Cheer Me 
Up", the Globetrotters song, is also listed on that website as 
an unreleased Archies recording, but Ron Dante has assured me 
that he never recorded it.

> Also recorded in England at least twice, by Dickey Pride,
> and by Stanley + Jeffrey Bird.

What year did these recordings come out?

Stuffed Animal



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Message: 7
   Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 13:37:10 EDT
   From: Ron Buono 
Subject: Re: Northern Soul

Hi Spectropoppers-
With all this discussion of "northern soul", can anyone out 
there recommend a website (or book) that lists 45s as either 
"northern soul", "deep soul" or plain old "soul" (not to omit 
R&B, teen, funk, popcorn, etc...). I guess what I need is a 
reference to my many 45s which I sometimes cannot find an 
accurate description. Any help would be greatly appreciated. 
Thanks

RON



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Message: 8
   Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 10:44:57 -0400
   From: Mikey 
Subject: Re: "Girl Groups" Is Not "War and Peace"

Hey John.
Dont pay any attention. There are always people that want to 
pick apart someone's hard work.
It's because THEY could never have the talent to do it themselves.

We appreciate your hard work. And I'm from Brooklyn originally, 
so I know what you mean!!

Your Friend,

Mikey



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Message: 9
   Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 13:41:22 EDT
   From: Jimmy Crescitelli 
Subject: For John & Geri Clemente & Co.

Bravo to you and yours ! Excellent! I loved that!
The trouble with the Internet is that EVERYONE is a critic... 
and, unfortunately, many of these people have forgotten that 
criticism requires the use of tact, diplomacy, and balance. 
Again: bravo to you all and your wonderful book. I learned 
SO much from it! 
My best,
Jimmy Crescitelli
Writer, Critic, and Muckraker Extraordinaire (but in a nice way)



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Message: 10
   Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 17:53:45 -0000
   From: Patrick Rands 
Subject: Wallpaper Of Sound -- Phil Spector Songbook

Anyone have any information on the Wallpaper Of Sound -- Phil Spector Songbook 
CD listed as an upcoming release here: http://www.dustygroove.com/upcoming.htm
It has a Late November, 2002 release date on Castle Music. Anybody have more 
information?

:Patrick



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Message: 11
   Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 13:49:53 -0500
   From: Dan Hughes 
Subject: Re: Archies Information!

Stuffed Animal asks (about Betty Betty):
> Also recorded in England at least twice, by Dickey Pride,
> and by Stanley + Jeffrey Bird.
> What year did these recordings come out?

I don't know. I found them via Google by entering the name 
of the song. One was a Spectropop note from a few years ago; 
the other was a British web site of rockabilly stuff I think.

By the way, the source I cited that claimed the Archies recorded 
the song didn't claim the song had been written for them.  I got 
the idea from the other sites that it was written a decade or more 
before the Archies were formed.

---Dan



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Message: 12
   Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 20:07:06 +0100
   From: Mick Patrick 
Subject: Re: WALLPAPER OF SOUND - THE SONGS OF PHIL SPECTOR & FRIENDS

Original Message From Patrick Rands:
> Anyone have any information on the Wallpaper Of Sound - 
> Phil Spector Songbook CD listed as an upcoming release here:
> http://www.dustygroove.com/upcoming.htm

Here's the tracklist:
WALLPAPER OF SOUND - THE SONGS OF PHIL SPECTOR & FRIENDS
Sequel/Castle CMR CD 615
1.  To Know Her Is To Love Her - Robb Storme & the Whispers
2.  Spanish Harlem - Jimmy Justice
3.  First Taste Of Love - The Migil 5
4.  Some Kinda Wonderful - Johnny Sandon
5.  I'm Counting On You - Petula Clark
6.  Bless You - Peter London
7.  I Love How You Love Me - Marie Gordon Price
8.  Twist And Shout - The Searchers
9.  He Knows I Love Him Too Much - Glo Macari
10. Ecstasy - Oliver Reed
11. He's A Rebel - The Breakaways
12. Up On The Roof - Jimmy Justice
13. Chapel Of Love - The Cadets
14. Da Doo Ron Ron - The Searchers
15. Here She Comes - The Breakaways
16. Be My Baby - The Searchers
17. Goodnight Baby - The Searchers
18. You Baby - Jackie Trent
19. You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin' - Barbara Ann
20. The Coldest Night Of The Year - Twice As Much & Vashti
21. Born To Be Together - P. P. Arnold
22. Is This What I Get For Loving You - Twice As Much
23. Home Of The Brave - Peanut
24. I'll Take You Where The Music's Playing - Pat Lynch
25. Hungry - The 5 a.m. Event
26. Goin' Back - Jackie Trent
27. River Deep - Mountain High - Long John Baldry

Every track is a British version of a US original written 
and/or produced by Phil Spector or penned by his friends 
Ellie Greenwich & Jeff Barry, Carole King & Gerry Goffin 
and Cynthia Weil & Barry Mann. The folk who lapped up 
Sequel's "Goin' Back - The Songs Of Goffin & King" CD might 
get a kick from this one too. It'll be out in November.

Now back to this month's Vanity Fair, their annual all-music 
issue. It's a great read.

MICK PATRICK



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Message: 13
   Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 19:11:54 -0000
   From: Leonardo Flores 
Subject: Re: Northern Soul/ Value Site

Ron wrote:
> With all this discussion of "northern soul", can anyone out 
> there recommend a website (or book) that lists 45s as either 
> "northern soul", "deep soul" or plain old "soul" (not to omit 
> R&B, teen, funk, popcorn, etc...). I guess what I need is a 
> reference to my many 45s which I sometimes cannot find an 
> accurate description. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Ron,
Check out the night owl site http://www.nightowlclub.com/ in my 
opinion the best site about the subject. The site also has a data 
base that you can type in songs, artists and labels it will come up 
with a price.
 
Also Kev Roberts top 500 book of Norhern Soul is not only an 
informative book but a price guide as well. A well written and fun 
book to read from a person who dares to share the subject with other 
people. 

When it comes down to it, if your going to be collecting and/or 
dealing in 45's it's best to just buy the price guides. My good 
friend never wanted to invest in the books as they are expensive. He 
Eventually bought the John Manship's Northern Soul Record Price 
guide. If he didn't buy the price guide he wouldn't have found the 
$400.00 Ty Karmin 45 on the cover of the price guide. Spending the 
$25.00 is worth helping you find the rare and/or high priced items.

The big problems with Northern Soul is that there so many schools of 
thought about what is and what isn't Northern soul. Top 500 book is  
a good place to start and get a basic undersatnding of the songs and 
History of Nortern Soul. 

I'm going to pick up that Bob Crewe "Jay" 45 on that Goldmine CD Vol 
#2 ASAP! I read about it in the book and I'm looking forward to 
hearing it. Thanks for the info!

Cheers
Leonardo



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Message: 14
   Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 20:09:37 -0000
   From: Jeff Lemlich 
Subject: Re: Reflecting on The Reflections

Martin Roberts wrote about the Reflections:
> Tigre Records "In The Still Of The Night" - super white stompy 
> doo wop (I've played this to musica also), two other up-tempo 
> white vocal 45s on "Crossroads" and one (black sounding) souly 
> doo wop on "Went". Are they the same group? Well, the "Went" 
> Reflections aren't but the "Crossroads" group could be, and 
> the Tigre release is just so great!

The Went 45 is out of Miami, and is a black group that played at the 
old Continental Club in South Florida -- no relation to the Detroit 
group.

I believe the Reflections (post-Tony Micale) also recorded as "The 
High And The Mighty" on ABC:
ABC 10821  Escape From Cuba/Tryin' To Stop Cryin'

This was an early Dennis Lambert production.  Lambert also produced 
The Spindles for ABC, and the other Reflections ABC tracks.   He of 
course later teamed with Brian Potter, and had huge success 
with "Keeper Of The Castle", "Rhinestone Cowboy", etc.

"Escape From Cuba" was a hot record for two weeks in Miami!   It 
debuted at #50 on WQAM, jumped to #39 the week of July 9, 1966... and 
then was pulled from their airwaves (due to its subject matter, a 
touchy topic here in South Florida).  My on-going list of WQAM/WFUN 
radio hits of the 60s (that did not hit the Billboard Hot 100) can be 
found here:
http://pub64.ezboard.com/flimestoneloungefrm11.showMessage?topicID=5.topic

Jeff Lemlich



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Message: 15
   Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 20:13:18 +0100
   From: Martin Roberts 
Subject: Re: The Reflections

Hi Stefan, glad to oblige;

Reflections "You Don't Love Me" (J McCall- W Walters) Linwal Music BMI
/"I Need Your Love" (W.A. Walters) Linwal Music. WENT Records (no address).
Both "A Mr Walters Production" (No mention of "In The Still…").

Beside New York's Calello, the Reflections also worked another great 
producer: 
"Out Of The Picture" (T. Boyce – B. Hart) Pub. Screen Gems/Columbia. 
Produced by Steve Venet for Screen Gems etc. Golden World GW-24.

And yes, it's almost as good as it sounds!

Martin



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Message: 16
   Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 17:07:56 -0400
   From: Mikey 
Subject: Re: The Reflections

Martin, when there's space available, PLEASE play "Out Of The Picture" 
to Musica!!! Can't have enough Boyce-Hart/Reflections tunes! Thanks!!!

Your Friend,

Mikey



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Message: 17
   Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 21:44:41 +0100
   From: Martin Roberts 
Subject: Jack Nitzsche Update

Those of you who listened to Jingle #1 from the radio page at 


before the 
recent 'announcement' will be pleased to know that it is now available 
in considerably improved sound quality. Thanks Phil. Take another 
listen.



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Message: 18
   Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 00:52:03 -0000
   From: Phil Chapman 
Subject: Re: Reflecting on The Reflections

Jeff Lemlich wrote:
> I believe the Reflections (post-Tony Micale) also recorded 
> as "The High And The Mighty" on ABC:
> ABC 10821  Escape From Cuba/Tryin' To Stop Cryin'

Ah, I often wondered about this politically unsound offering. 
It has it all:
Oppression: "Help me escape from Cuba"
Family values: "and find a home in the USA"
Symbolism "I had a powerful boat"
....and, of course, because the band were upstanding male citizens, 
the potential asylum seekers were "a beautiful girl and her brother 
who was in great pain" (he conveniently dies before becoming a 
statistic)...awww - I'm surprised they stopped short of a formal 
statement over the non-instrumental section.
However, age 14, I merely tuned in to the human drama of the 
situation, and thought it was a good tune, sounding like a tough 
Jay & The Americans. 

Escape From Cuba (L.Kusik - R.Adams), arranged by Leroy Glover
Produced by Dennis Lambert for Don Costa Prods. Inc.

.... in musica for evaluation.

Phil

PS - remind me not to go fishing off the coast of Florida.



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