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There are 22 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Important changes @ yahoo - fyi
From: S'pop Team
2. Happy birthday Ronnie Spector
From: David Young
3. Rangoons on musica
From: Michael Edwards
4. Re: Look For A Star
From: Norman
5. Re: Peggy Lipton Question
From: Keith D'Arcy
6. Re: Gary Miles & Garry Mills
From: Artie Wayne
7. Re: Palm Springs Rockfest
From: Jim Allio
8. Re: Gary Miles & Garry Mills
From: Alan V Karr
9. Bob Rashkow/ Janis Ian / The Groop
From: Artie Wayne
10. Re: Sire discography
From: Michel Gignac
11. A special request - Ron Dante's birthday
From: Laura Pinto
12. Re: Chuck Woolery: He's still got it!
From: Art Longmire
13. Re: Blackwells Single
From: Clarke Davis
14. U.P. GROOVES!
From: Andrew Jones
15. 3 D's; Starsailor; Janis Ian; "Mind" movie; Statues
From: Country Paul
16. Re: Roemans
From: Bill Craig
17. Jerry Butler and......?
From: Tony Leong
18. Peggy Lipton
From: Frank Youngwerth
19. Roemans, Shelby Flint, Palm Springs
From: Country Paul
20. Gary Mills/Garry Miles - Look For A Star
From: Austin Powell
21. Beg, Borrow And Steal
From: Paul Urbahns
22. Buzz Cason as Gary Miles
From: Paul Urbahns
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 11:41:13 +0100
From: S'pop Team
Subject: Important changes @ yahoo - fyi
Country Paul:
> Yahoo Groups has instituted changes in the files/photos
> sections of their/our groups.
Thanks for bringing this to the group's attention, Paul.
The changes do not really affect the operation of
Spectropop, with one important exception:
>From August 21st onwards, members who joined via email only,
i.e. members who do NOT have a Yahoo I.D., will no longer be
able to access the files (including musica) and photos areas.
And on the subject of musica, Yahoo appear to have introduced
quotas limiting the amount of files that can be downloaded
in one session.
Now that membership has recently crept above 1000, it seems
an apposite moment for a reminder that a moderator's task
is greatly reduced if messages are signed and, when replying
to messages, the name of the original sender is given.
Thanks.
S'pop Team
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 10:11:30 +0100
From: David Young
Subject: Happy birthday Ronnie Spector
Hi, gang,
A couple of weeks ago I finally acquired the ability (read: software)
to enable me to play tracks to musica. I'd like to celebrate both
that and Ronnie's August 10th birthday by sharing the rare mix of
"Paradise" found on an instantly deleted 1989 Japanese Spector
box set.
Enjoy, and happy birthday, Ronnie!
David
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 13:57:51 -0000
From: Michael Edwards
Subject: Rangoons on musica
Entry #5 in the "Keepin' the Summer Alive" series is "Moon
Guitar" by the Rangoons (Laurie, 1961). I tend to classify
Burt Bacharach instrumentals as "orchestral". Nothing wrong
with that as "Nikki" (Liberty, 1966) and "Pacific Coast
Highway" (A&M, 1969) were very atmospheric but they weren't
"rock". "Moon Guitar" by the Rangoons (now playing in musica)
was recorded earlier and has a Duane Eddy-lite flavor to it.
I love it when the sax kicks in. Apparently there are versions
of "Moon Guitar" by Tommy Garret and Billy Vaughn out there
and if anyone has one of these versions, please contact me.
Meantime, keep the summer alive by listening to this great 45
on musica.
Mike
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 00:26:26 +0930
From: Norman
Subject: Re: Look For A Star
Re: Rob: Gary Miles & Garry Mills
Look For A Star - The original British version
The first time I heard this British classic was on the Sire
Records 1975 compilation "Roots of British Rock". Although
it was #1 in UK and #18 in South Australia, I can't say I
consciously remember it when it first came out.
I note that Deane Hawley and Billy Vaughn Orchestra also had
hit versions of this song. And, Tony Hatch was only 18 years
old when he wrote this classic!
Some notes taken from Dave McAleer's "Hit Parade Heroes:
British Beat Before The Beatles".
Garry Mills recording of Tony Hatch's "Look For A Star" was
released in 1960. It was Tony Hatch's first major success
(written under the moniker of Mark Anthony). Garry Miles
(Buzz Cason) was only one of a few American cover versions.
Garry Mills had a go at covering Teen Angel and Seven Little
Girls. He once voice dubbed Jess Conrad for a TV play called
Rock A Bye Barney. "Look For A Star" was chosen for the film
"Circus of Horrors" after being rejected for inclusion in
Norman Wisdom's "Follow A Star". Garry Mills is the nephew of
Jazz trumpeter Nat Gonella. McAleer cites Mills's "Top Teen Baby"
as just missing the top twenty.
Regards
Norman
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 10:01:52 -0400
From: Keith D'Arcy
Subject: Re: Peggy Lipton Question
Hi All,
Does anyone know for certain if there are two Peggy Lipton LPs
on Ode? I've got the eponymous one, but I've long heard rumors
of a second LP called "Wear Your Love Like Heaven." I've got
the 7-inch of same; evidently it featured prominently in a
perfume ad at the time... is there an LP, and if anyone's got
it, could you let us know what the track list is?
Thanks very much,
Keith
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 07:49:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Re: Gary Miles & Garry Mills
Rob.......How ya' doin'? Your question raises another question
for me. I wrote a song with Paul Vance, "Sad Little Girl" which
was recorded by Gary Miles or Gary Mills and released about 6
months after "Look for a Star". Does anyone have any information
on this?
Thanks and regards,
Artie Wayne
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 12:51:17 EDT
From: Jim Allio
Subject: Re: Palm Springs Rockfest
Allan Rinde writes:
> http://www.palmspringsrocktoberfest.com/
Lesley Gore is headlining there on September 27.
Jim Allio
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 15:25:05 -0000
From: Alan V Karr
Subject: Re: Gary Miles & Garry Mills
Rob wrote:
> I was interested in the note re: Gary Miles "Look For A Star".
> I presume this is the same song released here in the U.K. by
> Garry Mills. This is another Tony Hatch composition, it was
> featured in a U.K. horror film called "Circus of Horrors".
> I think Garry had 1 further hit over here called "Top Teen
> Baby". Can anybody provide any updates?
This was a classic ripoff by a rechristened singer later associated
w/ the Crickets, Buzz Cason which siphoned off US sales. Later on
UK Top Rank and US Imperial both came under the aegis of EMI and a
reissue 45 came out Stateside with both versions!
Mills next hit the UK Top 20 with TOP TEEN BABY on Rank and later
scored a minor hit for Decca w/ Tepper-Bennett's I'LL STEP DOWN,
which beat out a superior version by Lee Diamond and The Cherokees
on Fontana. Within months, the Cherokees were backing Mills (this
combo was short-lived)
Regards,
Alan V. Karr
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 08:24:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Artie Wayne
Subject: Bob Rashkow/ Janis Ian / The Groop
Bob..........how ya' doin'? I've catching up on my E-mail and
ran across a couple of things in one of your posts that I'd
like to respond to. First, I'm glad to see Janis Ian being
brought up so often.......I'm really proud to have represented
her publishing company. The last time I saw her,was when I
presented her with a 'Grammy' for "At Seventeen" at a pre-
telecast awards ceremony.Though I hadn't represented her in
years it felt like everything had come full circle.
I was also a friend and collaborater of The Groops, Ronnie
Charles. My late partner, Lou Reizner [who discovered and
produced Rod Stewart, Rick Wakeman,etc.] had produced "Layla"
with Ronnie backed by the London Symphony Orchestra .....an
incredible record!!! Russ Regan picked up the U.S. rights and
wanted an album right away. Lou asked me to find some songs
for him from catalogs I once represented. He recorded a few
of my suggestions including the title track "Prestidigitation",
by my friend Steven Schwartz ["Godspell", "Pocahontas"]
regards,
Artie Wayne
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 19:11:34 -0000
From: Michel Gignac
Subject: Re: Sire discography
Doug wrote:
> All this talk about Sire made me go dig out my back issues
> of Who Put The Bomp (or just Bomp! later on), to find the
> story they ran on the Sire label in issue #20 (January 1979).
Doug,
Thank you for the precious information. We're like archeologists
who want to know from when some old bones date! "Something's Gone",
by Jam, is not that much important to me (yet a good song), but I
still want to determine when this single was out: 1968 or 1972!
If you have the patience, would you please enumerate the titles
and interpreters of the songs that were released on Sire 5001
(the flipside) to 5003? Maybe there will be some title or singer
which will be easier to date. Science counts on you!
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 20:05:31 -0000
From: Laura Pinto
Subject: A special request - Ron Dante's birthday
Hi folks. Ron Dante's birthday is coming up in two weeks,
and as I do every year, I'm going to put up a special
Happy Birthday page for him on my site. This year, though,
it's going to be a little different ... rather than just a
big, explosive HAPPY BIRTHDAY from me, I'd like to send Ron
a virtual greeting card, with birthday wishes from as many
people as possible!
The page I make up will consist of several pix of Ron (from
1970 to the present) and some original wording, and at the
bottom of the page I'll put a link to a second page that Ron,
and other visitors to the page, can click to read everyone's
birthday wishes. I'd like to include greetings from people from
all walks of life ... fans, people with whom Ron has worked
(famous or otherwise), and so on. And that's where you all come in!
If you'd like to be including in this virtual greeting card,
please email me (offlist) at my Yahoo account (lpintop @ yahoo.com)
and include the following:
1. Your birthday greeting to Ron. It can be as short or as long as
you'd like, but please try to keep it below 50 words if possible
because I'd like to fit a BUNCH of greetings on one page. Never fear,
I'm not going to count every word! Just speak from your heart.
2. Please let me know if I should use your last name as well as your
first name. I'll only use your first name unless I hear otherwise
from you.
3. Please indicate if I can use your location (city, state/province,
country) along with your name and greeting. It would be kind of
cool, letting Ron see that he's getting birthday wishes from people
all over the world!
4. Please let me know if I can use your email address on the page;
i.e., when Ron (or anybody) clicks on your name, your email address
will come up. I won't include the email address unless you say I can.
5. If you'd like a link to your homepage or site or group, just give
me the site's name and URL. Each person can give me up to 2 sites to
link along with their greeting.
6. And if you'd like a small photo of yourself displayed with your
message, please include one with your email. I'll be shrinking them
down, though, so that the page loads faster, so a
closeup photo would be best.
Thanks in advance.
Laura
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 20:11:32 -0000
From: Art Longmire
Subject: Re: Chuck Woolery: He's still got it!
Clark Besch wrote:
> Say, did anyone happen to see the Chuck Woolery reality show
> Aug 3 "Naturally Stoned" on the Game Show network?
Hey Clark,
I heard about that show and actually wish I had caught it. I have
some of the solo singles Chuck Woolery did on Columbia after he left
the Avant Garde and they aren't bad. And I love "Fly With Me" (note
the early use of the synthesizer on that track).
What's tough for me to imagine is Chuck as a Kingston Trio-type
folkie. The record I mentioned in an earlier post by The Bordermen
is a knockoff of the Kingston Trio style and sounds very "college
student". It dates from 1964 and is probably the first record Chuck
appeared on.
Art Longmire
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 21:04:07 -0000
From: Clarke Davis
Subject: Re: Blackwells Single
Mike:
> I've been a Blackwells fan since I heard "You Took Advantage
> Of Me". What's the story with this group? Can anyone post "You
> Took Advantage of Me", it's a terrific song.
I thought I was the only one in the western world who knew of
a song by the Blackwells that is fantastic! "For Love or Money"
was released sometime in the mid sixties, and as an AFN Nurnberg
DJ, I remember the station had a transcription from AFRTS, which
featured that song, which I played repeatedly. I have come to
know they released a few singles on Guyden, but to my knowledge,
"For Love or Money" just hasn't been released on CD anywhere.
This is one of those great, elusive singles I have been searching
for, and remembering for years. Anyone got anything on this group,
or that particular single?
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 23:29:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Jones
Subject: U.P. GROOVES!
I think the time has come to tell my fellow S'poppers about
a project of my devising.
I'm from the Upper Peninsula, or U.P., of Michigan. Until
the mid-1980s, when a U.P. recording act released a commercial
record, even if it was just a single, it was a fairly big event.
I've taken it upon myself to chronicle these events -
commercially-released records featuring U.P. talent, or with
a U.P. connection - in a project I call U.P. GROOVES! I hope
it'll all result in (at least) a series of locally-published
articles, or a book, or (my greatest dream) a legitimate CD or
CD series.
Here are some of the recording acts covered:
The Henchmen VI. The Vigilantes. The Rockatones. The French Chrch.
The Renaissance Fair. Mike (later Cub) Koda. The Kinetics. The
Benders. The Excels. The Innocence (not the "There's Got to Be A
Word!" group). The Riot Squad (not the British band). The Prophets
of Doom. Rocking Chair. The Fantastics (not the "Hit Records"
soundalike "group," but a band from Northern Michigan University).
And here are some of the labels: Cuca (Sauk City, WI -
www.cucarecords.com ). Princeton (Marquette, MI). Peninsula
(Escanaba, MI). Music World (Escanaba, MI). Carla (Detroit, MI).
Spoke (Manistique, MI). Big Sound (Wausau, WI). Studio City
(Minneapolis, MN). Nuggett (Tennessee).
If you have info about any of these groups, or any other info
that might be useful, or any questions about the project, contact
me OFF-list - but not at my primary e-mail address. All U.P. GROOVES!
correspondence should go to goober_johnson2000@yahoo.com.
Thanks!
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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2003 19:03:39 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: 3 D's; Starsailor; Janis Ian; "Mind" movie; Statues
Mike Rashkow:
> No one, in my time with this group, has mentioned The Three
> Degrees. Wonderful girls group out of Philly and did tons>
> and tons of backgrounds before and after they got their one
> big hit. "When Will I See You Again" I think it was.
Don't forget the early hit - the wonderful doo-wop ballad,
"Gee Baby I'm Sorry" on Swan.
Brian:
> Phil's new production for Starsailor is available on
> http://www.nme.com/features/105740.htm Sounds like he
> hired a drummer, someone with a triangle and someone who
> wrote banal lyrics and murdered them with the "singing".
If there had been a worthy song, maybe this would have had
some merit. I'm disappointed. Wish I wasn't.
Dave Feldman:
> Has any teenager ever written and performed at the level
> of "First Songs" and "Eli & the Thirteenth Confession?"
> I can't think of any.
I'd nominate the incredible Buddy Holly, in his late teens
when he began having hits. Perhaps not at the level of
sophistication of Laura Lyro, but certainly way ahead of his
time; the lasting value of his output and sound proves that.
The Laura Nyro "vs." Janis Ian talk reminds me of a quick tale
- it was summer, 1965, and a friend (Sue Rozell, who had sung
with the men of the Stone Poneys immediately pre-Ronstadt) was
back east from the University of Arizona. We were kicking around
Greenwich Village one night when I saw Bruce Murdoch, who had an
LP on an MGM subsidiary, was playing at the Gaslight. We went in,
sat down, and were treated to the opening act, Janis Ian, who I
could have sworn had to be in her 20s for the sophistication she
showed. We talked to her after her set, and when she said she was
15, our jaws dropped. I don't remember what she played and sang
that night, but the impression is as clear as a bell. When
"Society's Child" hit, neither Sue nor I were surprised.
Mike Edwards:
> ["Summertime Guy"] is topical also as it was written by
> Chuck Barris, who was the subject of the recent George
> Clooney flick, "Confessions Of A Dangerous Mind". Actor
> Sam Rockwell turns in a deliciously sleazy performance
> as Chuck Barris.
I haven't seen it, but the movie has just been re-released in
New York; it was apparently felt to be lost among too many
others when it first came out.
And Mike, re: summer songs - we can't forget the Jamies' baroque
doo-wop "Summertime, Summertime," a two-time hit in 1958 and 1962.
Norman:
> [from an EP jacket] "Although he plays piano and drums, Garry
> [Miles]'s main interest is singing. His first hit record,
> Look For A Star, is featured in this album. He is backed by
> The Statues, Hugh Jarrett and Richard Williams, also from
> Nashville - center of the recording and music business in
> the South"
The Statues did a gorgeous version of "Blue Velvet" on Liberty
- sort of expanding the Clovers' version into a big hifi sound.
I knew they were from Nashville, but what else did they do? How
many were there? "Blue Velvet" sounded like a group of 4 or 5,
including a phenomenal bass singer.
Country Paul
(Back in play and only two digests behind)
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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 04:19:58 -0000
From: Bill Craig
Subject: Re: Roemans
Michael Gessner:
> Does anyone have any of the ABC singles by The Roemans?
Contry Paul:
> I believe the core of the group subsequently became the
> Atlanta Rhythmn Section.
I think I heard something similar about The Candymen
(Georgia Pines) also on ABC Paramount I believe. Were
they not at one time Roy Orbison's backing Band?
Bill Craig
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Message: 17
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 05:20:06 -0000
From: Tony Leong
Subject: Jerry Butler and......?
Hello Group: I need some insight here. In 1967, Jerry Butler
cut a wonderful record called "I Dig You Baby", and the song
features some BEAUTIFUL female back-up vocals throughout the
song. Does anybody know who the back-up vocalists were???
Unfortunately, I dont know if the song was cut in NY or Chicago
(if it was Chicago, should I consider it may have been the Opals
singing???). HELP!!!!!!
Tony
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Message: 18
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 01:32:06 EDT
From: Frank Youngwerth
Subject: Peggy Lipton
Thanks, Don. Peggy does a nice version, with good support from
the Blossoms. Go Hal Blaine! - still my favorite musician of all
time.
Hi to Bobster.
Frank Youngwerth
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Message: 19
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 02:05:43 -0400
From: Country Paul
Subject: Roemans, Shelby Flint, Palm Springs
Jeff Lemlich, thanks for the excellent Roemans interview at
http://pub64.ezboard.com/flimestoneloungefrm7.showMessage?topicID=96.topic
I don't remember where I heard they became the Atlanta Rhythm Section -
which they didn't, obviously - but the connection to the Allman Brothers
Band is kinda cool. Now. if I could just find "Your Friend"....
Steve Harvey:
> She teamed up with this jazz guitarist for a CD. He
> did the "Wouldn't It Be Nice" CD of jazz artists
> tackling Brian Wilson tunes. She's on that one too.
> So Shelby [Flint] is still kicking.
I think his name is Tim Weston; I may have a CD they did together
around. Will check. Glad to know all's well with her. What a voice!
How's the Brian Wilson-jazz album?
Allan Rinde:
> For all you Southern California Spectropoppers, Lou, B.J. Thomas,
> The Angels (featuring Jiggs and Peggy), Jay Siegel's Tokens (in a
> very rare West Coast Appearance), Shirley Alston Reeves of the
> Shirelles, Little Anthony & The Imperials, Chris Montez and a few
> others, including your MC, Fabian, will be appearing in Palm Springs
> at Rocktoberfest, which despite it's name actually occurs Sept. 26-28
> and is FREE. For more info, check out
> http://www.palmspringsrocktoberfest.com/
Sounds like a very cool show - and probably the only thing in
Palm Springs that IS free! (BTW, some of the artist bios on the
webpage are priceless!)
Country Paul
(I can surrey - WITH fringe on top!)
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Message: 20
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 12:18:31 +0100
From: Austin Powell
Subject: Gary Mills/Garry Miles - Look For A Star
Rob wrote:
> I was interested in the note re: Gary Miles "Look For A Star".
> I presume this is the same song released here in the U.K. by
> Garry Mills. This is another Tony Hatch composition, it was
> featured in a U.K. horror film called "Circus of Horrors".
> I think Garry had 1 further hit over here called "Top Teen
> Baby". Can anybody provide any updates?
Rob: Tony Hatch could tell the story much better than I, but......
This song started life as "Follow A Star" and was written by
Tony Hatch, (under the nomme de plume, Mark Anthony) for the Rank
Organisation film of the same name. In the event the film's star,
Norman Wisdom, pulled rank (no pun intended) and Hatch's song became
"Look For A Star" and was featured in the film "Circus Of Horror",
starring Donald Pleasance. Hatch had the best of the deal in the end
as versions of his song by Garry (Buzz Cason) Miles (Liberty 55261)
and Billy Vaughan (Dot 16106) made # 16 and # 19 on Billboard's
singles chart respectively.
Mills continued to record for Top Rank until he moved to Decca in
'61 and had a hit with "I'll Step Down". In Mark Newson's Joe Meek
fan magazine "Thunderbolt" (issue 35) there's a feature which traces
Mills's career, ending by saying he now (2002) works at an internet
site selling airline tickets.
Austin
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Message: 21
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 18:06:20 EDT
From: Paul Urbahns
Subject: Beg, Borrow And Steal
I understand the song "Beg, Borrow and Steal" was issued by a
group called the Rare Breed on an independent label, then the
same recording was reissued on Cameo as by The Ohio Express.
Is that so, or are they two different recordings?
Paul Urbahns
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Message: 22
Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 18:32:17 EDT
From: Paul Urbahns
Subject: Buzz Cason as Gary Miles
Rob wrote:
> I was interested in the note re: Gary Miles "Look For A
> Star". I presume this is the same song released here in the
> U.K. by Garry Mills.
Yes Rob, it is. I spoke with Buzz Cason about 20 years ago
about that and he said the record company not only copied the
other guy's song, but his name too!
I can't say I've ever heard the Gary Mills version, though I
know it was issued in the US.
Paul Urbahns
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