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Volume #0100 June 16, 1998
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Headed for No. 1 on all the charts
Subject: even rhino isn't perfect
Sent: 06/14/98 8:17 am
Received: 06/14/98 10:22 am
From: Jeffrey Thames, KingoGrXXX@XXXm
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXies.com
In a message dated 98-06-13 02:17:24 EDT, paul urbahns writes:
<< Don't want to sound like bad grapes but I don't like their
labeling policy today and have been burned by too many Rhino
purchases. >>
you know what i miss on rhino cd's?
RUNNING TIMES!!!!!!
grrrrrr...
jeff
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Subject: Re: Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby
Sent: 06/13/98 7:43 pm
Received: 06/14/98 12:31 am
From: Marc Wielage, XXX@XXXrax.com
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXies.com
Billy G. Spradlin <bilXXX@XXXe.net> asked on the Spectropop List:
>I just wonder if
>there are more 64-66 tracks that are lurking in the Polydor/Abkco
>vaults that were never released in true stereo, and I wonder if
>"Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby" was ever released in stereo.
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As far as I know, no. It's out in synth. stereo on the Abkco
SINGLES COLLECTION boxed set, and also on the MORE HOT ROCKS disc
-- which just shows you how lame Allen Klein's people are at
distinguishing true stereo vs. mono vs. synth. stereo. Idiots...
--MFW
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Subject: Re: Stones in Stereo
Sent: 06/13/98 5:17 pm
Received: 06/14/98 12:31 am
From: Brad Elliott, surfXXX@XXXline.net
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXies.com
Billy G. Spradlin (bilXXX@XXXe.net) wrote:
> I just wonder if
> there are more 64-66 tracks that are lurking in the Polydor/Abkco
> vaults that were never released in true stereo, and I wonder if
> "Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby" was ever released in stereo. We
> will probably never hear them....
In the very early 1980s, I came into possession of a cassette tape
that contained a number of then-unreleased stereo Stones mixes. The
story I was told was that an engineer who had been involved with
the Stones at some point had dubbed off these mixes from the
original multi-tracks. Among the songs included were "Satisfaction,"
"Heart of Stone" and "Play With Fire," all later released on
that UK CD of HOT ROCKS 1, plus both "19th Nervous Breakdown" and
"Have You Seen Your Mother, Baby"! To the best of my knowledge,
neither of those has ever turned up in stereo on a commercial
release, but (as I wrote earlier) that syndicated release of "19NB"
in stereo has got to be coming from somewhere -- and I doubt
it's from a cassette dub like mine. Maybe when the stereo "19NB"
finally is found, the stereo "HYSYMB" will be with it, too. I can
personally vouch for the fact that the mix does exist, even if
only on tape!
BTW, two of the other stereo mixes on the tape are "It's All Over
Now" and "The Last Time," neither of which I have elsewhere in
stereo, but for some reason I seem to think that both of these
have been released commericially in stereo. Does anyone know where?
Neither is on the UK HOT ROCKS 1 CD.
Surf's up!
Brad Elliott
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Subject: Stereo & Mono
Sent: 06/13/98 4:28 pm
Received: 06/14/98 12:31 am
From: Michael Carpenter, StagefriXXX@XXXmsn.com
To: Spectropop, spectroXXX@XXXies.com
Hi folks,
Just jumping in here with my thoughts on the stereo and mono
things.
I've been listening to a lot more mono 60's stuff. Lots of Beatles
singles, EPs, Motown boxed sets etc, and i really believe that for
a lot of this stuff, the mono version is not only different, but
IMO, more 'artistically' true. Back then, as we all know, most
people still mixed for mono, and stereo was more of an
afterthought. My impression is that many songs, particularly the
Beatles stuff, was recorded in such a way that it was going to be
heard in mono. They therefore planned there tracking accordingly.
My impression is that the mono versions of much of this stuff are
more in keeping with what the artist/producer was shooting for.
Apart from that, i feel that they just sound more together, not
just sonically, but creatively. If you need proof, hunt down a
mono Paperback Writer... it kicks ass. I find sometimes that
although great to dissect a song by hearing the stereo version,
some of the impact goes also. Somebody mentioned The Temptations '
My Girl' .. a wonderful mono record, and longer in mono too.
Anyway, I'm sure you get the idea. I doubt that either is better,
but just lately, I've been enjoying sharing the artists vision of
how there tracks were meant to be.
Catch A Wave
Michael 'one ear' Carpenter
Catch A Wave
Michael
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Subject: The Sound of Summer
Sent: 06/16/98 3:14 am
Received: 06/16/98 12:19 am
From: Jamie LePage, le_page_XXX@XXXies.com
To: SPECTROPOP LIST, spectroXXX@XXXies.com
I just got a copy of "The Sound of Summer - The Very best of
Surfin' & Hot Rod Music" (TOCP-50589). Issued this month, it is a
collection of EMI masters related to the surf/hot rod genres. It's
got the regulars: Surfer Girl & Little Deuce Coupe (BBs), Surf City
& Ride the Wild Surf (J&D), I Live for the Sun & Andrea (Sunrays),
and others like that, but there are a few notable tracks worth
mentioning here.
It's as easy as 1-2-3 (Jill Gibson, Imperial 66068 - mono) Never
had heard this before. Jan & Dean recorded this too, and to me
Jill Gibson (who co-penned this with Don Altfeld) sounds incredible
on ...Easy as 1-2-3 with her "relaxed" vocal style. Sounds like the
backing track is the same as the J&D version! Hal Blaine definitely!
Jan produced this for Jill, and word has it that Jill was Jan's main
squeeze at the time. Any more info on this? Hey Doc, it's on
Imperial!
Nice to see After the Game (Survivors) in an official release here
(mono) instead of the more common Pamela Jean.
Pray for Surf (Honeys) is on here in what sounds like crap but is
listed as mono rechannelled for stereo. This is one of my two
favorite Honeys tracks, the other being He's a Doll. The bari
saxes and Hal Blaine fills on this are tops.
Probably the most intriguing is Don't Drag Me Down (Susan Lynne).
A wonderful GG record; Susan pleads with her boyfriend not to drag
race: "Baybee, pleeeze!" over backgrounds sounding a lot like
the Angels and soaring Brian Wilson-like falsetto oohs. But, no
credits. The song was penned by Artie Kornfeld, who collaborated on
several other songs with Jan Berry; he even had a hand in writing
The Rain, the Park and Other Things I think. Susan name checks Dead
Man's Curve in the verse. Love the tremelo rhythm guitar. Great
record! Anything else anyone can share about this GG/hot rod answer
song?
Surf & turf rules!
--
le_page_XXX@XXXies.com
RodeoDrive/5030
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Subject: Warner/ Spector & Big Tree/ Spector
Sent: 06/15/98 6:40 am
Received: 06/15/98 7:40 am
From: Anthony G Pavick, XXX@XXXma.lm.com
To: Spectropop List, spectroXXX@XXXies.com
Hey Phil-o-philes!
I'm new to the list and want to ask a quickie question. Does
anyone have a discography of the 45s and lps and Warner/ Spector
and also Big Tree/ Spector...Phil's mid 70s labels.
If I'n not mistaken, there were 10 45 rpm releases on W/S, and
maybe 3 lps. As far as I know only one of the 45s came close to
being a hit, and that was Soul Man by Calhoon. As luck would have
it, it wasn't even produced by Phil!
Big Tree/ Spector had maybe only 1 45, and that was by Dion.
I think I have most of them, but there are holes in my collection.
Any help would be appreciated.
Tony
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