__________________________________________________________ __________ __________ __________ __________ __________ S P E C T R O P O P __________ __________ __________ __________________________________________________________ Volume #0280 June 25, 1999 __________________________________________________________ Viva-tonal Recording - The Records without ScratchSubject: Daniel from Zagreb: Dobro Dan ! Received: 06/25/99 1:08 am From: Jimmy Cresitelli, Jimmyxxxxm To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com Dobro dan and Welcome-- nice to see such a distant correspondent on the list! My top ten from the good old days, in no particular order except for my # 1: 1. Da Doo Ron Ron-- The Crystals. A classic; Spector achieved a kind of aural perfection with this little gem. 2. Ooh Chang-A-Lang-- The Orchids. It storms and churns along relentlessly... 3. Oh Donnie-- The Secrets. A cool number from one of the best girl groups ever. 4. I Wonder Why-- The Chiffons. To me, this song IS the sound of 1963. 5. Little Boy-- The Georgettes. Chirpy and simple, but has never left my listener's psyche for some odd reason. 6. Then He Kissed Me-- The Crystals. More perfection from Phil and La La. 7. Usher Boy-- Merry Clayton. Features Merry tearing up a movie theatre with that voice and that attitude, looking for her boyfriend... 8. I Only Want to Be With You-- Dusty Springfield. A winner. 9. You Don't Have to Say You Love Me-- Dusty Springfield. Another winner. 10. The Boy I'm Gonna Marry-- Darlene Love. Take me to church, Darlene! Daniel, this list of mine is flexible, and changes easily, but these are the 10 that first came to mind today. Hope all is well in your country. I hope and pray that peace will guide the Balkans completely one day. Hvala! --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: top-10 list Received: 06/25/99 1:08 am From: DJ JimmyB, DJJimmyxxxxm To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com In a message dated 6/22/99 7:35:36 PM, you wrote: >Please, would you be so kind and make top-10 list your >favourites songs and artist from the Sixties. Welcome to the list and I hope your show survives. Asking me to name my top-10 all timers from the 6T's is beyond my ability to do. It changes week to week as I still buy 5-10 used LPs weekly and always find something new and exciting that I've never heard before. As long as this continues my mental health will remain somewhat intact...... Jimmy Botticelli "Jimmy's Easy" airs on WMBR-FM, 88.1 in Cambridge, MA USA on Tuesdays at 6-8am EST. WMBR can be heard on its website at www.wmbr.org --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: earl vs. hal Received: 06/23/99 8:48 am From: Jack Madani, Jack_Madxxxx2.nj.us To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com spectroxxxxies.com writes: >BTW, I wanted to clarify it that it was Earl Palmer (not >Hal Blaine) who cut the "Hold Me Thrill Me" on drums for >our Mel Carter hit. > >I got that mixed up but just got the verification from >Russ Wapensky (see my Message Board for some hits by Earl >Palmer, Jan & Dean stuff too) who has the authentic >Musicians Union studio musicians' contracts on his data >base. Carol, I bow to your superior knowledge, but it *does* say in Hal's book that it was Hal. I also add that that gradually crescendo-ing eighth note sequence that happens so often in HMTMKM does seem to be of a piece with other things Hal has done. However, if you say the contracts indicate it was Earl Palmer, then I believe you. --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: la la la and wo wo Received: 06/25/99 1:08 am From: james fisher, JHFAxxxxnet To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com Dave Feldman's description of Bobby Rydell's Forget Him as a "boy's girl group song" is perfect....I think Bobby might have been even more popular, and longer-lived, in Australia than he was here,along with Del Shannon and perhaps Gene Pitney.We just loved 'em. These guys were still hot tickets down there even after those long-haired, scruffy looking Englishmen had come along and chased them off the charts here in the US...the above trio were eclipsed --at least for a short time--by another American import--Crash Craddock ("All the way from the USA!!!!" the posters used to boast and that alone would get you an audience,the local talent being just a bit too, well, local.) ...my question is---does anyone even remember Crash?? I'm told he went over to Country after the boom lowered but I mean from his old rock' n' roll days,around '61/'62. He was going to be the Next Elvis but he sank without a trace and had vanished even before The Beatles came along to deliver the coup de grace...I hope some Spectropopers remember him ...Doc? Regards, Jim --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Pionerrs of Rock 'n' Roll Received: 06/25/99 1:08 am From: Jimmy Cresitelli, Jimmyxxxxm To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com Shelby Riggs, this sounds great! It reminds me back in the early 70s, when the groups began touring the "oldies circuit," and the lists of them appearing in the New York papers... some shows were called "Battle of the Girl Groups," for example, and would feature the Crystals, Chiffons, Chantels, Del Rons, etc. all on one bill... I have an original ad somewhere. Your show is on a much larger scale, of course. Maybe we can gather together a "Spectropoppers Bus" and all go out there together! Now will check out your site... good luck! --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Joanie Received: 06/25/99 1:08 am From: Brad Elliott, surfxxxxline.net To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxIES.COM CLAUDIA CUNNINGHAM wrote: >What has become of Joanie Somers, she of "Pink Shoe Laces" >and "One Boy"? > >The last I heard she was on a Coke jingle about 25 years >ago! As far as I know, Joanie's last recording was a duet with Beach Boy Mike Love -- "Paradise Found" on his 1981 solo set, LOOKING BACK WITH LOVE. No joke! Surf's up! Brad --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Lilys Received: 06/25/99 1:08 am From: Stewart Mason, flamixxxxom To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com Dave Mirich wrote: >Stewart, I'm surprised that you didn't mention the Lilys >when you were talking about the Elephant 6 stable of >groups with the '60s pop sound. It is an exceptionally >well done first effort. I guess with a singer from England, >you can't go wrong;) As Tobias pointed out, Kurt Heasley -- who for all intensts and purposes *is* the Lilys -- is actually from Lancaster, Pennsylvania, also home of the group Suddenly, Tammy!, whose 1995 album WE GET THERE WHEN WE DO is highly highly recommended to fans of early-70s soft pop; mostly because of leader Beth Sorrentino's beautiful and prominent piano, the easy comparison is Carole King's solo work. However, The Lilys' most recent album is actually their sixth release, following IN THE PRESENCE OF NOTHING (1992), which features most of Suddenly, Tammy! as Heasley's backing band, A BRIEF HISTORY OF AMAZING LETDOWNS (1994), ECCSAME THE PHOTON BAND (1995), BETTER CAN'T MAKE YOUR LIFE BETTER (1996, reissued 1998 in the UK) and SERVICES FOR THE SOON TO BE DEPARTED (1997). The first three are quirky guitar-pop in a fairly standard '90s indie fashion, but it sounds to me like sometime just before he started writing BETTER CAN'T MAKE YOUR LIFE BETTER, Kurt Heasley discovered freakbeat. BETTER is a dead-on recreation of flower-power London, mixing THE WHO SELL OUT, SOMETHING ELSE BY THE KINKS, and the early singles by the Move and the Creation so completely that you can't tell where one influence ends and the next begins. If those names mean anything at all to you, you'll want to hear BETTER CAN'T MAKE YOUR LIFE BETTER. Our UK friends have probably heard this album even if they don't realize it: the single "A Nanny In Manhattan" was used in a Levi's ad there in 1997 and quickly became a Top 5 hit as a result. Stewart ***************************FLAMINGO RECORDS************************* Stewart Allensworth Mason "I've been doing things that would Box 40172 make Caligula stand on a chair Albuquerque NM 87196 and go eek." www.rt66.com/~flamingo *********************HAPPY MUSIC FOR NICE PEOPLE******************** --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: Spectropop V#0279 Received: 06/25/99 1:08 am From: Derrick Bostrom, bostwoxxxxerve.com To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com Spectropop List, of spectroxxxxies.com, wrote, on 6/22/99 4:35 PM: >To me it >seems like as if the Al Jolsons and Fred Astaires of yore >didn't have the constant pressure to "score a hit" and >then release a just as successful "follow-up" hit, and on >and on and on.... Perhaps not, but you can be the songwriters did. Back then, the biz was more focused on sheet music than it is now! Derrick Bostrom bostwoxxxxerve.com http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/bostworld/ --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: Re: the concept of hits Received: 06/25/99 1:08 am From: Big L, bixxxxmail.com To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com The Babushka Lady said: >We talk a lot about hits on this list... >...has the music industry always been as focused on making >hits as it seemingly has from the sixties and onwards. Do >you older listees (50 or older) remember if the term "hits" >was used so extensively during yr childhoods? To me it >seems like as if the Al Jolsons and Fred Astaires of yore >didn't have the constant pressure to "score a hit" and >then release a just as successful "follow-up" hit, and on >and on and on....that whole concept, or frame of mind, >begun with rock in the late fifties, as far as I can tell. >..it was obviously there from the beginning but it wasn't >as cynical, perhaps I think the concept of charts and hit songs really didn't take off until after WWII. I know there were hits before that, like Artie Shaw having a hit with "Begin The Beguine." However, what really spurred it on was the evolution of Top 40 radio in the early and mid fifties. There were charts before that, but with Top 40, it became more important to actually MAKE the Top 40 to get airplay. Making the Top 20 was better, and every artist had his eyes set on te Top 10. Top 40 radio became sort of a competition. If a group had a big hit, there was pressure to follow it up with another one. Hits are what sold albums. If it was good to have one big hit on your album, then two was even better. You had groups that made lots of hits, like the Beach Boys, putting out an album every six months. It wasn't good to have TOO many hits on the album, so as soon as two or three were in the can, an album was rushed out. I think that as the 70s wore on, hits became less important. There was now FM radio, where songs that weren't hits could get played. There was a fracturing of "rock" and "Top 40" into lots of little niche formats. I remember very well "K-108" in Sacramento, which was my favorite station. It was a soft, or adult rock station. When an album came out that fit the genre, they selected two or three songs from it that they were going to play. Thus, I heard cuts from Gerry Rafferty's "City To City" album, like "Mattie's Rag," "Island," etc. that I would never had heard on the AM Top 40s. Result - Gerry sold another album. I drifted away from Top 40 and contemporary radio in the 80s, so I really can't comment on much after that. I know that "hits" can get played for six months now on CHR radio. I find that concept extremely boring, as I find contemporary music. The excitement of Top 40 radio was waiting to hear the countdown, to see who would hit #1, to hear the next "Pick Hit," the newest "Projection." 14 weeks was a marathon chart run in those days, and records that made it to #1 were usaully the only ones that lasted that long. Anyway, that's my take on it. == Big L Check out my Radio Legends pages at: bixxxxmail.com http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/9816 --------------------[ archived by Spectropop ]-------------------- Subject: VDP Received: 06/25/99 1:08 am From: Jamie LePage, le_page_wxxxxies.com To: Spectropop List, spectroxxxxies.com Hey all, British friends Corrine and Andy came into town today, and I hooked up with them this afternoon at a local record store. I was OK at first, just bought the new Ultra Lounge comp from Capitol. But as time went on, I ended up spending over $100 on stuff. Crazy. I hate it. I love it. Can't get enough of it. I got the Honeybus best CD on See For Miles. I had the Honeybus album on tape, but I just had to get this on CD. I Can't Let Maggie Go is essential. Additional purchases: Os Mutantes' Everything is Possible (super highly recommended by Brian Wilson musical director, Wondermints member and Spectropopper Darian Sahanaja); Psychedelic Sound of Blossom Toes, Volume 2 (which appears to be their second album - 08 tracks); and The Medium is the Message by Marshall McLuhan. Anyway, afterwards we all went over to see Van Dyke Parks play tonight. Just incredible. The high point for me was his own version of Heroes and Villians. Hearing him do this, I realized just how much he had to do with the construction of the song. It almost seemed like a VDP original rather than a BW song to which he set lyrics. He also did Orange Crate Art which was fantastic. Another highlight was a song called Cowboy. Country western meets Hawaiian exotica. Brilliant! I was delighted that he performed The All Golden as well. I hoped he would do Come to the Sunshine, but who is to complain?!? After the show Van Dyke sat down and talked with us for a while. I mentioned his wonderful website put together by fellow Spectropopper Don Richardson, and he was very enthusiastic about it. If you haven't checked it out, by all means please do. A labor of love, Don - you are the greatest! Van Dyke's backing band was legendary bassist Leland Sklar (second only to our own Carol Kaye) and guitarist Grant Geissman. Just a trio, and yes I missed the strings, but as a three piece they were very relaxed and played well together. So there I am hanging out with Corrine, Andy, Leland and Van Dyke Parks. I live for moments like these. It just doesn't get any better. Coming to you live from the Tiki Room - Aloha! Jamie n.p. 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